> Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> grain of salt)

> Nov 21 Expiry

> $1.00 Strike
> Calls 12,240
> Puts 6,557

> $1.50 Strike
> Calls 20,126
> Puts 13,369

> Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> news.
> December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> $2.00 range.

> Anyone else have comments or opinions?

> My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> as you mention?

> On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > grain of salt)

> > Nov 21 Expiry

> > $1.00 Strike
> > Calls 12,240
> > Puts 6,557

> > $1.50 Strike
> > Calls 20,126
> > Puts 13,369

> > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > news.
> > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > $2.00 range.

> > Anyone else have comments or opinions?

> I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> surprisingly well.
> My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> cents.
> I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> personal trading platform.
> If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> "Option Chains".
> I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> of FNM)

> Dec 21 Expiry

> $1.00 Strike
> Calls 16,321
> Puts 84,826

> $1.50 Strike
> Calls 9,765
> Puts 6,639

> $2.00 Strike
> Calls 21,099
> Puts 4,247

> It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> at $1.00 Strike.

> Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > as you mention?

> > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > grain of salt)

> > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > $1.00 Strike
> > > Calls 12,240
> > > Puts 6,557

> > > $1.50 Strike
> > > Calls 20,126
> > > Puts 13,369

> > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > news.
> > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > $2.00 range.

> > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?

> One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> building up.

> On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > surprisingly well.
> > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > cents.
> > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > personal trading platform.
> > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > "Option Chains".
> > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > of FNM)

> > Dec 21 Expiry

> > $1.00 Strike
> > Calls 16,321
> > Puts 84,826

> > $1.50 Strike
> > Calls 9,765
> > Puts 6,639

> > $2.00 Strike
> > Calls 21,099
> > Puts 4,247

> > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > at $1.00 Strike.

> > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > as you mention?

> > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > grain of salt)

> > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > news.
> > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> there??   a good buZZ??

> On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > building up.

> > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > surprisingly well.
> > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > cents.
> > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > personal trading platform.
> > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > "Option Chains".
> > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > of FNM)

> > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > $1.00 Strike
> > > Calls 16,321
> > > Puts 84,826

> > > $1.50 Strike
> > > Calls 9,765
> > > Puts 6,639

> > > $2.00 Strike
> > > Calls 21,099
> > > Puts 4,247

> > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > as you mention?

> > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > news.
> > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> Might as well ride along with them.

> Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> FRE then.

> Fingers crossed.

> On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > there??   a good buZZ??

> > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > building up.

> > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > cents.
> > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > of FNM)

> > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > Might as well ride along with them.

> > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > FRE then.

> > Fingers crossed.

> > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > building up.

> > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > cents.
> > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > FRE then.

> > > Fingers crossed.

> > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > building up.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > FRE then.

> > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> FRE will be fine..

> On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> FRE will be fine..

> On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Im not really in tune with FRE like I am with FNM.
> It seems good news from FRE would boost FNM in my opinion.
> Almost as if the market is just waiting for a positive catalyst to
> boost pps, and downplay the negative hits we've been taking until this
> happens.
> Like I've mentioned in earlier, the large stakeholders appear to steer
> this ship between the $1.00 and $1.50 price range for the time being.

> Sorry I cant help more on FRE, just not as familiar with it.

> On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > FRE will be fine..

> > On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> It's all about accounting only
> Most of FNM losses were driven by reserves made, so it's only paper
> losses
> FRE didn't make that much reserves last quarter (in some cases they
> don't have to in some parts due to different capital structure, in
> some cases just being more risky), that's why their report was better
> IMPO FNM posted these losses (and did it now, not later in Nov as it
> was annonced before) to push gov to approve the tax credit deal with
> GS, "either u approve it or give me extra money, I need 15 bil more,
> you see". I think now gov has no choice but to approve it..

> On Nov 6, 8:39 pm, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Im not really in tune with FRE like I am with FNM.
> > It seems good news from FRE would boost FNM in my opinion.
> > Almost as if the market is just waiting for a positive catalyst to
> > boost pps, and downplay the negative hits we've been taking until this
> > happens.
> > Like I've mentioned in earlier, the large stakeholders appear to steer
> > this ship between the $1.00 and $1.50 price range for the time being.

> > Sorry I cant help more on FRE, just not as familiar with it.

> > On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > FRE will be fine..

> > > On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > > > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > > > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > > > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

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> Btw guys I never traded options, but FNM looks like perfect
> opportunity to trade on volatility for me. To open both call and putt
> options on the same strike and benefit from high volatility. Does
> anybody do this? Any idea of option premiums on these stocks?
> thanks

> On Nov 7, 1:39 am, Makkusu <Sfai...@seznam.cz> wrote:

> > It's all about accounting only
> > Most of FNM losses were driven by reserves made, so it's only paper
> > losses
> > FRE didn't make that much reserves last quarter (in some cases they
> > don't have to in some parts due to different capital structure, in
> > some cases just being more risky), that's why their report was better
> > IMPO FNM posted these losses (and did it now, not later in Nov as it
> > was annonced before) to push gov to approve the tax credit deal with
> > GS, "either u approve it or give me extra money, I need 15 bil more,
> > you see". I think now gov has no choice but to approve it..

> > On Nov 6, 8:39 pm, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Im not really in tune with FRE like I am with FNM.
> > > It seems good news from FRE would boost FNM in my opinion.
> > > Almost as if the market is just waiting for a positive catalyst to
> > > boost pps, and downplay the negative hits we've been taking until this
> > > happens.
> > > Like I've mentioned in earlier, the large stakeholders appear to steer
> > > this ship between the $1.00 and $1.50 price range for the time being.

> > > Sorry I cant help more on FRE, just not as familiar with it.

> > > On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > FRE will be fine..

> > > > On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > > > > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > > > > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > > > > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > > > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > > > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have comments or opinions?- Hide quoted text -

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> RJ and everyone in this board. As of Monday let's start the FNM
> Lounge. Let's keep the trade alive and free from spammers.

> On Nov 6, 4:42 pm, Makkusu <Sfai...@seznam.cz> wrote:

> > Btw guys I never traded options, but FNM looks like perfect
> > opportunity to trade on volatility for me. To open both call and putt
> > options on the same strike and benefit from high volatility. Does
> > anybody do this? Any idea of option premiums on these stocks?
> > thanks

> > On Nov 7, 1:39 am, Makkusu <Sfai...@seznam.cz> wrote:

> > > It's all about accounting only
> > > Most of FNM losses were driven by reserves made, so it's only paper
> > > losses
> > > FRE didn't make that much reserves last quarter (in some cases they
> > > don't have to in some parts due to different capital structure, in
> > > some cases just being more risky), that's why their report was better
> > > IMPO FNM posted these losses (and did it now, not later in Nov as it
> > > was annonced before) to push gov to approve the tax credit deal with
> > > GS, "either u approve it or give me extra money, I need 15 bil more,
> > > you see". I think now gov has no choice but to approve it..

> > > On Nov 6, 8:39 pm, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Im not really in tune with FRE like I am with FNM.
> > > > It seems good news from FRE would boost FNM in my opinion.
> > > > Almost as if the market is just waiting for a positive catalyst to
> > > > boost pps, and downplay the negative hits we've been taking until this
> > > > happens.
> > > > Like I've mentioned in earlier, the large stakeholders appear to steer
> > > > this ship between the $1.00 and $1.50 price range for the time being.

> > > > Sorry I cant help more on FRE, just not as familiar with it.

> > > > On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > FRE will be fine..

> > > > > On Nov 6, 1:13 pm, Jeffrey Shaw <jeff3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > FRE earnings are next.  What impact on FNM do u think will happen if
> > > > > > FRE also posts negative earnings and requests more bailout money?
> > > > > > Last quarter they didnt need any bailout $$.

> > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:38 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > I completely agree that the government will back them, but not sure if
> > > > > > > they will back the common shareholder. Hopefully they won't wipe out
> > > > > > > common shares  or pull a reverse split.

> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:27 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > The Government will back them if anything happens, I was hope to see
> > > > > > > > it inthe 1.20's by now but there is always next week. all the shorts
> > > > > > > > want it to go under $1 so they could buy.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:13 pm, rj <randywjack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > The numbers seem to point that way, but you never really know. Ive
> > > > > > > > > just accepted the fact that large block shareholders run this stock.
> > > > > > > > > Might as well ride along with them.

> > > > > > > > > Hopefully we will get to grasp a few opportunities between now and
> > > > > > > > > Feb. Still wondering what the government is going to do with FNM and
> > > > > > > > > FRE then.

> > > > > > > > > Fingers crossed.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, nikko <sabbass...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > it would be so awesome if it goes to $2.. is there  a buzz out
> > > > > > > > > > there??   a good buZZ??

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:22 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > One more thing...It's nice the see the increasing amount of Calls in
> > > > > > > > > > > the $2.00 Strike in the Dec numbers.
> > > > > > > > > > > Although it may not get there, seems like these is a little buzz
> > > > > > > > > > > building up.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:19 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > I was very concerned as well when the market opened, but it held up
> > > > > > > > > > > > surprisingly well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > My guess is the big guys dropped the price down a few cents premarket
> > > > > > > > > > > > to get the automatic triggers to activate in order to scoop up a few
> > > > > > > > > > > > cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am unable to post a link because the info was collected within my
> > > > > > > > > > > > personal trading platform.
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you have Scottrade,TDAmeritrade, Etrade, it would be visible under
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Option Chains".
> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it bites when someone posts and can't back it up with a link.

> > > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, here is what it shows for December 19th Options
> > > > > > > > > > > > Expiry....please find a way to double check it because I dont want to
> > > > > > > > > > > > be responsible for anyone's losses. These are just my opinions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > little bits of data that may help spur positive discussion to help out
> > > > > > > > > > > > the whole community. (At least those who don't like unfounded bashers
> > > > > > > > > > > > of FNM)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dec 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 16,321
> > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 84,826

> > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 9,765
> > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,639

> > > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 21,099
> > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 4,247

> > > > > > > > > > > > It looks to me like the stock will rise a little around Nov.19th
> > > > > > > > > > > > expiry, then drop back down before Dec Expiry due to the 84,826 puts
> > > > > > > > > > > > at $1.00 Strike.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Again, just a broad brush opinion.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 10:59 am, CinciTech <cincit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, before the bell, was that this would drop like a rock as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > soon as normal trading hours opened.  I was wrong there...  (Sold 2k @
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.00 in hopes of buying back in @ around 0.80.)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give a link where you find the December calls in $2.00 range
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as you mention?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 11:45 am, R J <saltfla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall numbers from TDAmeritrade. (This is my opinion, take it with a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > grain of salt)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nov 21 Expiry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.00 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 12,240
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 6,557

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 Strike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calls 20,126
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Puts 13,369

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like FNM is gaining strength and would range between $1.00 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > $1.50 in the upcoming few weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may explain why it didn't drop like a rock after the recent bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > news.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > December's expiry looks even better with higher number of calls in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > $2.00 range.

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