> Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> later.

> Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> are UP 4.200 pts.

> For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> numbers for F for today:

> ++++++

>  Standard
> R3 9.24333
> R2 9.15667
> R1 9.08333
> PP 8.99667
> S1 8.92333
> S2 8.83667
> S3 8.76333
> Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> ++++++++

> In the news ~

> A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> ++++
> Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> Volvo unit-DJ
> Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> Shamel Rushwin.
> ++++

> And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> Geely
> ++++
> Thomson Reuters
> UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> unit.

> Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> hands.

> 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> growth momentum.

> Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> ++++

> In other news~

> "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> and, in the same vein,

> "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> YOU share your thoughts today?

> The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> where will F close the regular markets?

> Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> perspective.

> Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> later.

> Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> are UP 4.200 pts.

> For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> numbers for F for today:

> ++++++

>  Standard
> R3 9.24333
> R2 9.15667
> R1 9.08333
> PP 8.99667
> S1 8.92333
> S2 8.83667
> S3 8.76333
> Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> ++++++++

> In the news ~

> A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> ++++
> Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> Volvo unit-DJ
> Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> Shamel Rushwin.
> ++++

> And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> Geely
> ++++
> Thomson Reuters
> UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> unit.

> Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> hands.

> 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> growth momentum.

> Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> ++++

> In other news~

> "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> and, in the same vein,

> "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> YOU share your thoughts today?

> The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> where will F close the regular markets?

> Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> perspective.

> Think Tank & All~

> A quick update ~

> The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> Offerings on both sides were thin.

> By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> the sizes are gaining strength.

> By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> Should have had action before I get back.

> On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > later.

> > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > numbers for F for today:

> > ++++++

> >  Standard
> > R3 9.24333
> > R2 9.15667
> > R1 9.08333
> > PP 8.99667
> > S1 8.92333
> > S2 8.83667
> > S3 8.76333
> > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > ++++++++

> > In the news ~

> > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > ++++
> > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > Volvo unit-DJ
> > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > Shamel Rushwin.
> > ++++

> > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > Geely
> > ++++
> > Thomson Reuters
> > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > unit.

> > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > hands.

> > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > growth momentum.

> > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > ++++

> > In other news~

> > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > and, in the same vein,

> > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > where will F close the regular markets?

> > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > perspective.

> Think Tank & All~

> A quick update ~

> The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> Offerings on both sides were thin.

> By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> the sizes are gaining strength.

> By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> Should have had action before I get back.

> On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > later.

> > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > numbers for F for today:

> > ++++++

> >  Standard
> > R3 9.24333
> > R2 9.15667
> > R1 9.08333
> > PP 8.99667
> > S1 8.92333
> > S2 8.83667
> > S3 8.76333
> > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > ++++++++

> > In the news ~

> > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > ++++
> > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > Volvo unit-DJ
> > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > Shamel Rushwin.
> > ++++

> > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > Geely
> > ++++
> > Thomson Reuters
> > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > unit.

> > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > hands.

> > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > growth momentum.

> > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > ++++

> > In other news~

> > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > and, in the same vein,

> > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > where will F close the regular markets?

> > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > perspective.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Think Tank & All~

> A quick update ~

> The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> Offerings on both sides were thin.

> By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> the sizes are gaining strength.

> By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> Should have had action before I get back.

> On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > later.

> > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > numbers for F for today:

> > ++++++

> >  Standard
> > R3 9.24333
> > R2 9.15667
> > R1 9.08333
> > PP 8.99667
> > S1 8.92333
> > S2 8.83667
> > S3 8.76333
> > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > ++++++++

> > In the news ~

> > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > ++++
> > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > Volvo unit-DJ
> > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > Shamel Rushwin.
> > ++++

> > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > Geely
> > ++++
> > Thomson Reuters
> > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > unit.

> > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > hands.

> > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > growth momentum.

> > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > ++++

> > In other news~

> > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > and, in the same vein,

> > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > where will F close the regular markets?

> > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > perspective.

> Good Morning TT and all,

> I have a question for the Think Tank: Ford said there will be an
> offering this month. I haven't heard of a pre announced offering yet
> so it sounds unusual to me. The VEBA payment is also coming up. Is it
> possible that the offering IS the VEBA payment...or at least the %
> part of it?

> Go blue.
> Still gotluck.

> On Dec 3, 7:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > A quick update ~

> > The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> > open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> > Offerings on both sides were thin.

> > By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> > DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> > By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> > the sizes are gaining strength.

> > By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> > 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> > 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> > 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> > I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> > Should have had action before I get back.

> > On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > later.

> > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > numbers for F for today:

> > > ++++++

> > >  Standard
> > > R3 9.24333
> > > R2 9.15667
> > > R1 9.08333
> > > PP 8.99667
> > > S1 8.92333
> > > S2 8.83667
> > > S3 8.76333
> > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > ++++++++

> > > In the news ~

> > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > ++++
> > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > ++++

> > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > Geely
> > > ++++
> > > Thomson Reuters
> > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > unit.

> > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > hands.

> > > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > > growth momentum.

> > > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > > ++++

> > > In other news~

> > > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > > and, in the same vein,

> > > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > > where will F close the regular markets?

> > > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > > perspective.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Wij and friends,

> Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> thinks tank!!!

> I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> for him)

> Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> Rah Rah Rah!!!

> Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> the
> price and chart action as they have!

> Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> chart as well.

> 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> barriers broken (explained below)

> 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> healthy again trending proven a success

> 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> back up between November and December.

> 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> completely different).

> Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> Gl2ALL

> On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > later.

> > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > numbers for F for today:

> > ++++++

> >  Standard
> > R3 9.24333
> > R2 9.15667
> > R1 9.08333
> > PP 8.99667
> > S1 8.92333
> > S2 8.83667
> > S3 8.76333
> > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > ++++++++

> > In the news ~

> > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > ++++
> > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > Volvo unit-DJ
> > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > Shamel Rushwin.
> > ++++

> > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > Geely
> > ++++
> > Thomson Reuters
> > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > unit.

> > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > hands.

> > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > growth momentum.

> > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > ++++

> > In other news~

> > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > and, in the same vein,

> > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So

> Good Morning TT and all,

> I have a question for the Think Tank: Ford said there will be an
> offering this month. I haven't heard of a pre announced offering yet
> so it sounds unusual to me. The VEBA payment is also coming up. Is it
> possible that the offering IS the VEBA payment...or at least the %
> part of it?

> Go blue.
> Still gotluck.

> On Dec 3, 7:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > A quick update ~

> > The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> > open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> > Offerings on both sides were thin.

> > By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> > DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> > By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> > the sizes are gaining strength.

> > By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> > 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> > 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> > 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> > I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> > Should have had action before I get back.

> > On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > later.

> > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > numbers for F for today:

> > > ++++++

> > >  Standard
> > > R3 9.24333
> > > R2 9.15667
> > > R1 9.08333
> > > PP 8.99667
> > > S1 8.92333
> > > S2 8.83667
> > > S3 8.76333
> > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > ++++++++

> > > In the news ~

> > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > ++++
> > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > ++++

> > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > Geely
> > > ++++
> > > Thomson Reuters
> > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > unit.

> > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > hands.

> > > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > > growth momentum.

> > > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > > ++++

> > > In other news~

> > > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > > and, in the same vein,

> > > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > > where will F close the regular markets?

> > > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > > perspective.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> geez

> re-Market
> Last:   $ 9.03  Pre-Market
> High:   $ 9.03
> Pre-Market
> Volume:         19,500  Pre-Market
> Low:    $ 9.03

> Someone bought a block of 19,500 at $9.03

> On Dec 3, 8:01 am, Gotluck <rsgotl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Good Morning TT and all,

> > I have a question for the Think Tank: Ford said there will be an
> > offering this month. I haven't heard of a pre announced offering yet
> > so it sounds unusual to me. The VEBA payment is also coming up. Is it
> > possible that the offering IS the VEBA payment...or at least the %
> > part of it?

> > Go blue.
> > Still gotluck.

> > On Dec 3, 7:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > A quick update ~

> > > The opening spread in the directed trades market at the 7:00 eastern
> > > open were wider than normal.  Bid was $8.93 while the ask was $9.06.
> > > Offerings on both sides were thin.

> > > By 7:08, the spread had narrowed to $8.95 - $9.05.

> > > DJIA at UP 30 pts and the S & P at UP 3.2999.

> > > By 7:12, while the spreads are the same, the bids are filling in and
> > > the sizes are gaining strength.

> > > By 7:18, NOTHING has changed.

> > > 'Tis now 7:30 eastern ~ still the same spread and still NO trades.

> > > 7:31, spread narrowed to $8.98 - $9.05.

> > > 'Tis now 7:40 eastern.  Still no trades.  The spread is the same.

> > > I'm going to be gone for a bit, so sending this out now as an update.
> > > Should have had action before I get back.

> > > On Dec 3, 5:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > later.

> > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > ++++++

> > > >  Standard
> > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > ++++++++

> > > > In the news ~

> > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > ++++
> > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > > ++++

> > > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > > Geely
> > > > ++++
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > > unit.

> > > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > > hands.

> > > > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > > > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > > > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > > > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > > > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > > > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > > > growth momentum.

> > > > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > > > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > > > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > > > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > > > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > > > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > > > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > > > ++++

> > > > In other news~

> > > > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > > > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > > > and, in the same vein,

> > > > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > > > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > > > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > > > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > > > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > > > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > > > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > > > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > > > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > > > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > > > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > > > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > > > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > > > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > > > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > > > where will F close the regular markets?

> > > > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > > > perspective.- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> wijram
> I am cautiously very very optimistic.
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> N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
>  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> Mr Matt

> catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> process

> in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> which you are a newbee - so be polite
> Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> hey proceed with caution...
> alot of it.
> ............
> catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> Toronto yesterday listed 2

> at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> modest short squeeze catalyst
> should happen

> .............

> On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Wij and friends,

> > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > thinks tank!!!

> > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > for him)

> > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > the
> > price and chart action as they have!

> > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > chart as well.

> > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > barriers broken (explained below)

> > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > healthy again trending proven a success

> > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > back up between November and December.

> > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > completely different).

> > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > Gl2ALL

> > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > later.

> > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > numbers for F for today:

> > > ++++++

> > >  Standard
> > > R3 9.24333
> > > R2 9.15667
> > > R1 9.08333
> > > PP 8.99667
> > > S1 8.92333
> > > S2 8.83667
> > > S3 8.76333
> > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > ++++++++

> > > In the news ~

> > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > ++++
> > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > ++++

> > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > Geely
> > > ++++
> > > Thomson Reuters
> > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > unit.

> > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > hands.

> > > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > > growth momentum.

> > > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > > car and

> Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > wijram
> > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > mffais.com
> > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > Added More 837,482
> > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > Mr Matt

> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > process

> > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > hey proceed with caution...
> > alot of it.
> > ............
> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > should happen

> > .............

> > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij and friends,

> > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > thinks tank!!!

> > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > for him)

> > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > the
> > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > chart as well.

> > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > back up between November and December.

> > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > completely different).

> > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > Gl2ALL

> > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > later.

> > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > ++++++

> > > >  Standard
> > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > ++++++++

> > > > In the news ~

> > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > ++++
> > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > > ++++

> > > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > > Geely
> > > > ++++
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > > unit.

> > > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > > hands.

> Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > wijram
> > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > mffais.com
> > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > Added More 837,482
> > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > Mr Matt

> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > process

> > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > hey proceed with caution...
> > alot of it.
> > ............
> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > should happen

> > .............

> > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij and friends,

> > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > thinks tank!!!

> > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > for him)

> > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > the
> > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > chart as well.

> > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > back up between November and December.

> > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > completely different).

> > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > Gl2ALL

> > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > later.

> > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > ++++++

> > > >  Standard
> > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > ++++++++

> > > > In the news ~

> > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > ++++
> > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > > ++++

> > > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > > Geely
> > > > ++++
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > > unit.

> Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > wijram
> > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > mffais.com
> > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > Added More 837,482
> > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > Mr Matt

> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > process

> > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > hey proceed with caution...
> > alot of it.
> > ............
> > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > should happen

> > .............

> > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij and friends,

> > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > thinks tank!!!

> > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > for him)

> > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > the
> > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > chart as well.

> > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > back up between November and December.

> > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > completely different).

> > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > Gl2ALL

> > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > later.

> > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > ++++++

> > > >  Standard
> > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > ++++++++

> > > > In the news ~

> > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > ++++
> > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > Shamel Rushwin.
> > > > ++++

> > > > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > > > Geely
> > > > ++++
> > > > Thomson Reuters
> > > > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > > > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > > > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > > > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > > > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > > > unit.

> > > > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > > > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > > > hands.

> > > > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > > > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > > > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > > > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > > > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > > > China's consumer market as the

> Think Tank & All~

> Back.

> And I like what I see.

> With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> Hey David Bronson ~
> How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> fer-2.  PLEASE.

> If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> Your thoughts, anyone?

> On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > wijram
> > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > mffais.com
> > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > Added More 837,482
> > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > Mr Matt

> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > process

> > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > alot of it.
> > > ............
> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > should happen

> > > .............

> > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > for him)

> > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > the
> > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > chart as well.

> > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > completely different).

> > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > > later.

> > > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > > ++++++

> > > > >  Standard
> > > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > > ++++++++

> > > > > In the news ~

> > > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > > ++++
> > > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > > unit in hopes of

> Rorytate

> the Tell the again..,,

> TT
> et al

> TM, nissian, honda ... all up over 5% wow
> Dai & bmw up 2%
> euro up  .70%
> OBVIOUSLY all signs WE are about to fly !

> but .. theres very little PM volume
> only 100k as of 8.36am .. torontos pocket change ....

> && Im utterly confused...
> why is Bac up only 1/2 dollar
> & GE 10 cent

> Mr Matt
> deal!
> I'll stop the teasing
> You offically are accepted at the TT
> we are on the same team .. for now

> Just a little comment march cycle was a wild ride
> rolling to april much the same...
> honestly it was a War out there .. all shiitt aside
> War without guns

> On Dec 3, 8:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > wijram
> > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > mffais.com
> > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > Added More 837,482
> > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > Mr Matt

> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > process

> > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > alot of it.
> > > ............
> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > should happen

> > > .............

> > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > for him)

> > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > the
> > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > chart as well.

> > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > completely different).

> > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > > later.

> > > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > > ++++++

> > > > >  Standard
> > > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > > ++++++++

> > > > > In the news ~

> > > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > > ++++
> > > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > > Shamel

> Hey edin~

> FINALLY, got it figured out.

> I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> during this post sales announcement period!

> Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> beings.

> Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> of those December calls!

> On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > Back.

> > And I like what I see.

> > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > Hey David Bronson ~
> > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > wijram
> > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > mffais.com
> > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > Mr Matt

> > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > process

> > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > alot of it.
> > > > ............
> > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > should happen

> > > > .............

> > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > for him)

> > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > the
> > > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > > chart as well.

> > > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > > completely different).

> > > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > > > later.

> > > > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > > > ++++++

> > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > > > R2 9.15667

> Think Tank & All~

> More fuel for the surge UP.

> Just off of the wires:

> +++
> Number of people filing first-time unemployment claims fell last week
> to 457,000, U.S. says, the lowest level since September 2008.

> ++++

> So much for the accuracy of the ADP data yesterday!

> GREAT news.

> On Dec 3, 7:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey edin~

> > FINALLY, got it figured out.

> > I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> > You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> > negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> > during this post sales announcement period!

> > Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> > beings.

> > Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> > By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> > of those December calls!

> > On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > Back.

> > > And I like what I see.

> > > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > > Hey David Bronson ~
> > > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > wijram
> > > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > > mffais.com
> > > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > > Mr Matt

> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > > process

> > > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > > alot of it.
> > > > > ............
> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > > should happen

> > > > > .............

> > > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > > for him)

> > > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > > the

> Think Tank & All~

> Back.

> And I like what I see.

> With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> Hey David Bronson ~
> How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> fer-2.  PLEASE.

> If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> Your thoughts, anyone?

> On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > wijram
> > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > mffais.com
> > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > Added More 837,482
> > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > Mr Matt

> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > process

> > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > alot of it.
> > > ............
> > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > should happen

> > > .............

> > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > for him)

> > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > the
> > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > chart as well.

> > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > completely different).

> > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > > later.

> > > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > > ++++++

> > > > >  Standard
> > > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > > PP 8.99667
> > > > > S1 8.92333
> > > > > S2 8.83667
> > > > > S3 8.76333
> > > > > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > > > > ++++++++

> > > > > In the news ~

> > > > > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > > > > ++++
> > > > > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > > > > Volvo unit-DJ
> > > > > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > > > > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > > > > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > > > > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > > > > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > > > > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > > > > Shamel

> Hey edin~

> FINALLY, got it figured out.

> I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> during this post sales announcement period!

> Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> beings.

> Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> of those December calls!

> On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > Back.

> > And I like what I see.

> > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > Hey David Bronson ~
> > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > wijram
> > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > mffais.com
> > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > Mr Matt

> > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > process

> > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > alot of it.
> > > > ............
> > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > should happen

> > > > .............

> > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > for him)

> > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > the
> > > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > > chart as well.

> > > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > > completely different).

> > > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > > > > > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > > > > > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > > > > > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > > > > > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > > > > > later.

> > > > > > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > > > > > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > > > > > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > > > > > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > > > > > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > > > > > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > > > > > numbers for F for today:

> > > > > > ++++++

> > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > R3 9.24333
> > > > > > R2 9.15667
> > > > > > R1 9.08333
> > > > > > PP

> Wij and friends,

> Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> thinks tank!!!

> I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> for him)

> Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> Rah Rah Rah!!!

> Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> the
> price and chart action as they have!

> Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> chart as well.

> 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> barriers broken (explained below)

> 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> healthy again trending proven a success

> 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> back up between November and December.

> 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> completely different).

> Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> Gl2ALL

> On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > one heck of a good day.  Now, to find out if it will happen ~ or not.

> > Actually, things are lookin' quite good.

> > Overnight was fine in the major Asian markets:  while Shanghai was
> > down .16%, Hong Kong was UP 1.19% and the Nikkei SOARED up 3.84%.  Not
> > sure why China was up so much, but will try to have something on that
> > later.

> > Europe is more consistent, with London UP .43%, the DAX UP .76% and
> > Paris UP .97% in what is still relatively early trading.

> > Oil is UP $.59 (.77%) to $79.19.

> > At 7:00 eastern, the DJIA futures are UP  36 pts and the S & P futures
> > are UP 4.200 pts.

> > For those that find the Pivot Point numbers useful, here are the
> > numbers for F for today:

> > ++++++

> >  Standard
> > R3 9.24333
> > R2 9.15667
> > R1 9.08333
> > PP 8.99667
> > S1 8.92333
> > S2 8.83667
> > S3 8.76333
> > Observation: BULLISH with a closing price between pivot point and R1.
> > ++++++++

> > In the news ~

> > A brief clip about a new offer on for Volvo from the Crown Consortium:
> > ++++
> > Two Former Executives Of Ford Motor Company Submitted Revised Bid For
> > Volvo unit-DJ
> > Wednesday, 2 Dec 2009 07:58pm EST
> > Dow Jones reported that A consortium led by two former Ford Motor
> > Company executives submitted a revised bid this week for Ford's Volvo
> > unit in hopes of beating out a rival offer by Zhejiang Geely Holding
> > Group Co. The so-called Crown consortium is led by former Ford
> > director Michael Dingman and former Ford and Chrysler LLC executive
> > Shamel Rushwin.
> > ++++

> > And another, longer story about the "preferred" bidder for Volvo,
> > Geely
> > ++++
> > Thomson Reuters
> > UPDATE 1-Geely soars to all-time high on parent's move
> > 12.01.09, 11:35 PM EST

> > HONG KONG, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Geely Auto rose 9.3 percent to
> > an all-time high on Wednesday, boosted by a report that its parent was
> > a step closer to completing its acquisition of Ford Motors's Volvo
> > unit.

> > Geely shares rose to as high as HK$4.24 before steadying at HK$4.18 in
> > late morning, still up 7.7 percent, with 139 million shares changing
> > hands.

> > 'The probability (for the parent to complete the deal) is much higher
> > now,' said Olive Xia, analyst at Core Pacific Yamichi. 'If completed,
> > it will do good to the listed company in the long run in areas such as
> > production technology. It will further enhance its brand and image.'

> > Xia holds a positive view of the mainland auto market on optimism over
> > China's consumer market as the country's economy keeps up its strong
> > growth momentum.

> > Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, the Chinese carmaker picked as the
> > preferred bidder for Ford Motor ( F - news - people )'s Volvo unit, is
> > seeking at least $1 billion in loans from Chinese banks to finance its
> > $1.8 billion bid, sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

> > Shares of other Chinese car makers were also higher on Wednesday, with
> > car and battery maker BYD surging to more than a month high at HK
> > $77.90 before steadying at HK$77.05, still up 3.98 percent.
> > ++++

> > In other news~

> > "Bank of America to Repay All $45 Billion in TARP Funds", apparently
> > so that they can pay more to their next CEO.

> > and, in the same vein,

> > "GM Faces Challenge Luring Top Talent in CEO Search".

> > as well as one that appears to have pulled down the DJIA a little,

> > "Costco Kicks off Retail Sales Reports with a Miss"

> > I am not seeing any looming economic data reports that are due out
> > today that might have heavy impact on the markets.

> > At this relatively early hour, 6:15 eastern, we really have no read of
> > where F will open the earliest pre-markets.

> > So we are left where we always are at this hour on a trading day ~
> > wondering what the day will bring and hoping that YOU will share your
> > thoughts on that matter.  Yesterday, several relative newbies made
> > contributions and one hit the opening price on the head.  So why don't
> > YOU share your thoughts today?

> > The questions most in mind are ~ At what price will F open the regular
> > markets;  how low will she dip during the trading day; high HIGH will
> > the price of F reach during the regular trading markets and where, oh
> > where will F close the regular markets?

> > Come ON - give it a try.  We would really appreciate getting YOUR
> > perspective.

> w,

> lol
> thats paris hilton
> hottt

>  someone else here wear  the "stupor hero cape"
> give me a # wijram ... please
> "stupor induced"
> just say it

> you! pls

> (I will play along & confuse the Devil - reaper & stock gods, to WILL
> this up together)

> On Dec 3, 8:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey edin~

> > FINALLY, got it figured out.

> > I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> > You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> > negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> > during this post sales announcement period!

> > Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> > beings.

> > Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> > By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> > of those December calls!

> > On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > Back.

> > > And I like what I see.

> > > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > > Hey David Bronson ~
> > > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > wijram
> > > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > > mffais.com
> > > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > > Mr Matt

> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > > process

> > > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > > alot of it.
> > > > > ............
> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > > should happen

> > > > > .............

> > > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > > for him)

> > > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > > > chart as well.

> > > > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > > > September - November  - More proof we are gapping up.  Very similar
> > > > > > between march - mid April.  Very important to notice the MACD bounced
> > > > > > back up between November and December.

> > > > > > 6.  Trix is showing very nice bullish patterns more-so than your
> > > > > > bearish postings (of course our timings will affect you and I
> > > > > > completely different).

> > > > > > Ok can we say F is a Bull!!!  Edin I see your concern if you don't
> > > > > > look at the whole chart in your case puts/calls options is much more
> > > > > > of concern price factor than the average joe investor/day-trader.

> > > > > > This concludes today forgive me if any typos... Somewhat drained.

> > > > > > Edin I see the option gaps you play.  You and I are in a different
> > > > > > league with our trades here so this overview will speak to us
> > > > > > different.  For you you would play those drawbacks before the next
> > > > > > upward movement.  For me I play the dips in stocks (not options)

> > > > > > Gl2ALL

> > > > > > On Dec 3, 6:23 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Great Mornin' to Ye, Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > Got one cup of coffee down already and am ready to watch this pup have
> > > > > > > one heck of a good day.

> w,

> lol
> thats paris hilton
> hottt

>  someone else here wear  the "stupor hero cape"
> give me a # wijram ... please
> "stupor induced"
> just say it

> you! pls

> (I will play along & confuse the Devil - reaper & stock gods, to WILL
> this up together)

> On Dec 3, 8:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey edin~

> > FINALLY, got it figured out.

> > I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> > You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> > negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> > during this post sales announcement period!

> > Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> > beings.

> > Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> > By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> > of those December calls!

> > On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > Back.

> > > And I like what I see.

> > > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > > Hey David Bronson ~
> > > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > wijram
> > > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > > mffais.com
> > > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > > Mr Matt

> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > > process

> > > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > > alot of it.
> > > > > ............
> > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > > should happen

> > > > > .............

> > > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > > for him)

> > > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > > > chart as well.

> > > > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > > > above red is good the closeness in gap shows that there is a
> > > > > > consistent steady in price action while this be it does conclude that
> > > > > > there seems to be major support happening.  You will see October -
> > > > > > November there are lower highs vs November - December higher highs.
> > > > > > Between October and December you will see a higher low than between
> > > > > > September - November  - More proof we are

> Green across the board. My "mini dow" is up .5% to 2.5% across.
> Financials up 2.-2.5% retail, tech, and industrials up .5-.8%

> The test for Ford is the 52 week high. If that is bested all bets are
> off. If it cannot be overcome, then I fear a dip back into the mid to
> high $8's will be on the dance card through the end of December. That
> is, back to the doldrums.

> My fear is the 52 week high cannot be overcome, the overall market
> rolls over (which it is primed to do if it does not break out) Then
> you have a perfect storm for a retrace. Just short term. 3-5 weeks,
> but a retrace none the same. IF Ford can break new ground and drive
> past the 52 week high we could see a new trading range above $9.25
> even with a general market pull back. The good news is that if $9.25
> breaks it pretty much takes $8.40 out of the picture.  Right now $8.40
> is on the table, especially if the dilution comes through this month.

> Edin, I bought the puts as well. I have seen this story too many
> times. We have seen a good 5-8% pull back a few days after EVERY
> monthly sales call for the last 6 months. This is even more
> exaggerated after earnings. BUT we are pulling out of a recession, we
> are in December and people need some money for all those Christmas
> presents, AND< AND< AND most importantly, we have seen some whacked
> out sh*t (technical term) with Ford over the last 6 weeks with Driver
> and Suppressor. So I am not so sure we repeat past patterns.  Again,
> if we break the 52 week high all bets are off.

> Full disclosure. I am in a some what hedged position. Long ford
> common, $5 Jan 2011 calls (deep in the money and no plans to sell
> until next tax season) and short term puts to protect against downside
> until earning season in January.

> Ford WILL be around $11-$12 in February. Just not positive about the
> direction in December.  Happy trading y'all.

> On Dec 3, 8:50 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > w,

> > lol
> > thats paris hilton
> > hottt

> >  someone else here wear  the "stupor hero cape"
> > give me a # wijram ... please
> > "stupor induced"
> > just say it

> > you! pls

> > (I will play along & confuse the Devil - reaper & stock gods, to WILL
> > this up together)

> > On Dec 3, 8:40 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey edin~

> > > FINALLY, got it figured out.

> > > I know what the BIG CATALYST was that is propelling us UP today.

> > > You!  That is, your rather stongly worded expressions of a pretty
> > > negative view of the future movement of the price of F common stock
> > > during this post sales announcement period!

> > > Guess it shocked the Gods as much as it shocked some of us more mortal
> > > beings.

> > > Anyway.... Thanks, me friend.

> > > By the way, I still think you were RIGHT in your decision to move out
> > > of those December calls!

> > > On Dec 3, 7:34 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > Back.

> > > > And I like what I see.

> > > > With an hour to go before the opening of the full markets, F has
> > > > already hit $9.06, although the last trades are back at $9.05.  Does
> > > > this indicate that we might see an R1 ($9.08) GAP UP opening?

> > > > Hey David Bronson ~
> > > > How about giving us your precise predictions for today.  Go for 2-
> > > > fer-2.  PLEASE.

> > > > If we do get a R1 opening, can we reach R2 or even R3 today?

> > > > Your thoughts, anyone?

> > > > On Dec 3, 7:17 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Look Edin,  So what if I am new (I think I am doing damn good for
> > > > > being fairly new to transitioning from investing to technical
> > > > > trader).  I have learned from mistakes and I am sure I will have some
> > > > > mistakes to go.  So I take constructive criticism but to flat out
> > > > > insult me as a newb instead of a different approach that was uncalled
> > > > > for especially when I try to contribute to this board.  I don't expect
> > > > > everyone to follow my advice but comment if you well however let your
> > > > > comments be mature!  We are all here for the same reason to make
> > > > > money.  So lets drop it and work together to improve the view of F
> > > > > stock as a whole!  Forgive me for calling you a bear!~

> > > > > On Dec 3, 8:08 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > > wijram
> > > > > > I am cautiously very very optimistic.
> > > > > > PM large wall at bid 9.03 & large one at 9.07 at ask

> > > > > > mffais.com
> > > > > > should 2 new large Fund buys
> > > > > > reported 2009-11-30   AsOf date 2009-09-30

> > > > > > HR/A Arnhold And S Bleichroeder Advisers Llc Institution 1,799,852
> > > > > > Added More 837,482
> > > > > > N-Q Fidelity Hastings Street Trust - Fidelity Fund Specialty & Misc
> > > > > > 2,849,200 New Holding 2,849,200
> > > > > >  Lord Abbett Series Fund Inc - International Portfolio International
> > > > > > Multi-Cap Core 1,609,200 New Holding 1,609,200

> > > > > > Mr Matt

> > > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > > your answer a chart ,,,, flat for 2 weeks, is a good thing
> > > > > > As a Long I agree with you ... & a pullback is part of the healing
> > > > > > process

> > > > > > in another thread, you didnt like me labeling you a newbee
> > > > > > which you are a newbee - so be polite
> > > > > > Chart work & tech do UNTIL they dont
> > > > > > & speaking about march / april chart vs today is full of flaws.

> > > > > > BUT in someway calling me a Bear on F ... thats funny actually
> > > > > > I was bluntly and honestly expressing to others
> > > > > > hey proceed with caution...
> > > > > > alot of it.
> > > > > > ............
> > > > > > catalyst catalyst catalyst?
> > > > > > Toronto yesterday listed 2

> > > > > > at near these levels yes Momentum trade could kick in...
> > > > > > & obviously key would be closing obove 9.15 or so.

> > > > > > & if wijram is correct ,,, we continue upward
> > > > > > modest short squeeze catalyst
> > > > > > should happen

> > > > > > .............

> > > > > > On Dec 3, 7:18 am, "Mr. Matt" <matthew.smallw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Wij and friends,

> > > > > > > Top of tha Mornin' to ya... Like you I have my cup o coffee myeslf and
> > > > > > > mmm darn good just like today should be.  As always thank you again
> > > > > > > for doing your DD and posting the market news and job news and F
> > > > > > > articles.  AS I dont have alot of time here I need to get back to a
> > > > > > > few things on my work agenda I would like to state I dont think the
> > > > > > > job report will have a huge impact negatively on F and if it does it
> > > > > > > should be very minimal.  I think if good news came out it may be of
> > > > > > > good benefit.  The reason I state this is because Ford is working on a
> > > > > > > economic work force relief efffort and raising funds for the workforce
> > > > > > > if you got a chance to see what I posted the other day.

> > > > > > > As for Pricing in F today I will let all be the judge of that.  I say
> > > > > > > if you get in at $9.00 or slightly lower $8.98 it would not be a bad
> > > > > > > thing.  If you sell at $9.20 and buy the next dip its not a bad
> > > > > > > thing.  If you hold out longer term its not a bad think.

> > > > > > > You always ask think tank and all... My answer to you today is me no
> > > > > > > thinks tank!!!

> > > > > > > I posted my technical analysis on last nights thread however I think
> > > > > > > it was too late. (I am sure I will get flack from Edin but I dont give
> > > > > > > a rats arse! - if anything I hope it gives him a good synopsis layout
> > > > > > > for him)

> > > > > > > Ok here goes the updated tech chart which I think some of you will be
> > > > > > > very happy to see and confirms we are in the swings with 9's.... Go F
> > > > > > > Rah Rah Rah!!!

> > > > > > > Note:  Edin this is for you as well.  Take it as you will but I am
> > > > > > > sticking to my guns here... A lot of funds in this that have pushed
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > price and chart action as they have!

> > > > > > > Chart Breakdown!  you can adjust your Monthly view below the chart to
> > > > > > > give a better and broader view.  The below analysis is based on the 11
> > > > > > > month the 2nd link for your entertainment I have provided a 6 month
> > > > > > > chart as well.

> > > > > > > 11 Month Chart (9 month movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=11&dy=0&id=p48286705723
> > > > > > > 6 Month Chart (continued movement upward)http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=F&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p23915960639

> > > > > > > 1.  Forecast uptrend confirmed by 11 month chart - Steady rise and
> > > > > > > barriers broken (explained below)

> > > > > > > 2.  EMA (12) days downtrend attempt was very important today the
> > > > > > > candles dominated and broke EMA factor - excellent sign as the stock
> > > > > > > could not be held down (time is on our side guys) - Tested at the red
> > > > > > > candle towards end of chart but price action rose against it.

> > > > > > > 3.  MA (26) days well below the candles - excellent sign as stock
> > > > > > > continues to move up away breaking average movement over 26 days

> > > > > > > 4.  BB  Stock is neither touching top or bottom BB and rises above the
> > > > > > > BB moving average this is a nice signal that the stock price action is
> > > > > > > healthy again trending proven a success

> > > > > > > 5.  MACD convergence is steady running above the moving average Green
> > > > > > > above red is good the