> Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> 5pts and the S&P is

> Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> ++++++++
>  Standard
> R3 7.57667
> R2 7.50333
> R1 7.38667
> PP 7.31333
> S1 7.19667
> S2 7.12333
> S3 7.00667
> Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> +++++++

> And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> from $8 to $10.

> And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> PLEASE share your thoughts!

> Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > ++++++++
> >  Standard
> > R3 7.57667
> > R2 7.50333
> > R1 7.38667
> > PP 7.31333
> > S1 7.19667
> > S2 7.12333
> > S3 7.00667
> > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > +++++++

> > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > from $8 to $10.

> > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Hey Chris~

> Good Morning.

> I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> Must note that the players are already at it.

> Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> interesting.

> Wonder who wins today?

> Just how deep can those pockets be?

> Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> about today?

> On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > ++++++++
> > >  Standard
> > > R3 7.57667
> > > R2 7.50333
> > > R1 7.38667
> > > PP 7.31333
> > > S1 7.19667
> > > S2 7.12333
> > > S3 7.00667
> > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > +++++++

> > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > from $8 to $10.

> > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > ++++++++
> >  Standard
> > R3 7.57667
> > R2 7.50333
> > R1 7.38667
> > PP 7.31333
> > S1 7.19667
> > S2 7.12333
> > S3 7.00667
> > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > +++++++

> > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > from $8 to $10.

> > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> say though.

> On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey Chris~

> > Good Morning.

> > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > interesting.

> > Wonder who wins today?

> > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > about today?

> > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > ++++++++
> > > >  Standard
> > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > +++++++

> > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Hey Rhizz~

> I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> GS and the JPM upgrades.

> I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> their analysts.

> Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> offered.

> In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> to play this game.

> The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> already demonstrated repeatedly.

> Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > say though.

> > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey Chris~

> > > Good Morning.

> > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > interesting.

> > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > about today?

> > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > ++++++++
> > > > >  Standard
> > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > +++++++

> > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey Rhizz~

> > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > their analysts.

> > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > offered.

> > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > to play this game.

> > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > say though.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > Good Morning.

> > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > interesting.

> > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > about today?

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Hey Rhizz~

> I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> GS and the JPM upgrades.

> I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> their analysts.

> Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> offered.

> In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> to play this game.

> The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> already demonstrated repeatedly.

> Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > say though.

> > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey Chris~

> > > Good Morning.

> > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > interesting.

> > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > about today?

> > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > ++++++++
> > > > >  Standard
> > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > +++++++

> > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

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> > - Show quoted text -

> Howdy Y'all. I think the tide will turn based on the jobs report
> tomorrow. I was listening to the market place chat on NPR this morning
> and caught an interesting tidbit. They were saying that September jobs
> worsened a bit after showing improvement over the summer. This set up
> a question as to whether September was just a dip or a new trend. Many
> people will be looking at the October report to see which way things
> break. The bad news is if the numbers are bad people will freak. Good
> news is if the numbers are good things should fly.

> I think this fits in with everything we have seen this month. Things
> were improving over the summer and then took a hit in September.
> Everything. Jobs, housing, manufacturing, consumer spending and
> sentiment, etc... Seems like things have turned in October as all
> those things are up this month.  Will jobs follow? I sure as hell hope
> so!

> Credit upgrades, price upgrades, guidance increase, surprise profit,
> positive cash flow, first North American operating profit in 4 years,
> institutional buying, CAW concessions.  How long can manipulation
> last?

> On Nov 5, 8:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey Rhizz~

> > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > their analysts.

> > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > offered.

> > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > to play this game.

> > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > say though.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > Good Morning.

> > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > interesting.

> > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > about today?

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

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> Think Tank & All~

> DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> And my stomach.

> On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > their analysts.

> > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > offered.

> > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > to play this game.

> > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > say though.

> > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > interesting.

> > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > about today?

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

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> Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> exceeded $100 million.

> Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> quarter.

> Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> they were the previous day.

> A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> trades.

> That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> far this week (3 day total).

> On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > And my stomach.

> > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > their analysts.

> > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > offered.

> > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > to play this game.

> > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > say though.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> exceeded $100 million.

> Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> quarter.

> Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> they were the previous day.

> A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> trades.

> That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> far this week (3 day total).

> On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Think Tank & All~

> > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > And my stomach.

> > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > their analysts.

> > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > offered.

> > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > to play this game.

> > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > say though.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> Hey Toronto~

> Thanks for the numbers on the shorts!

> 107.2MM short so far this week, eh?

> Will make for one hell of a stampede when the dam breaks.

> 11MM traded 21 minutes into regular trading.

> Last trade ~ $7.41.

> Only one word to say ~ "GO!"

> On Nov 5, 8:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > exceeded $100 million.

> > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > quarter.

> > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > they were the previous day.

> > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > trades.

> > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > far this week (3 day total).

> > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > And my stomach.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > offered.

> > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> cowbell !!!!!

> Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > exceeded $100 million.

> > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > quarter.

> > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > they were the previous day.

> > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > trades.

> > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > far this week (3 day total).

> > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > And my stomach.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > offered.

> > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> WOW that's it!

> That's what we need!

> MORE COWBELL!!!!!!

> I have been saying it for years!

> On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > cowbell !!!!!

> > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > quarter.

> > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > they were the previous day.

> > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > trades.

> > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > And my stomach.

> > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> cowbell !!!!!

> Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > exceeded $100 million.

> > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > quarter.

> > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > they were the previous day.

> > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > trades.

> > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > far this week (3 day total).

> > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Think Tank & All~

> > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > And my stomach.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > offered.

> > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> Howdy Y'all. I think the tide will turn based on the jobs report
> tomorrow. I was listening to the market place chat on NPR this morning
> and caught an interesting tidbit. They were saying that September jobs
> worsened a bit after showing improvement over the summer. This set up
> a question as to whether September was just a dip or a new trend. Many
> people will be looking at the October report to see which way things
> break. The bad news is if the numbers are bad people will freak. Good
> news is if the numbers are good things should fly.

> I think this fits in with everything we have seen this month. Things
> were improving over the summer and then took a hit in September.
> Everything. Jobs, housing, manufacturing, consumer spending and
> sentiment, etc... Seems like things have turned in October as all
> those things are up this month.  Will jobs follow? I sure as hell hope
> so!

> Credit upgrades, price upgrades, guidance increase, surprise profit,
> positive cash flow, first North American operating profit in 4 years,
> institutional buying, CAW concessions.  How long can manipulation
> last?

> On Nov 5, 8:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hey Rhizz~

> > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > their analysts.

> > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > offered.

> > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > to play this game.

> > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > say though.

> > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > Good Morning.

> > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > interesting.

> > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > about today?

> > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> t
> icom

> Has F announced actual DEBT reduction beyond 10B loan???

> script;
> remember Fs Preservation Tax Plan
> C had one, stock stalled .. for 2 months or & doubled!@in the next
> spike
> few other companies did the same.... stock down or sideway & booom

> Shorts have a effect ... not as crazy as q1 09
> call selling & put spreads also an effect ... not huge but there
> VERy modest scared profit taking
> most traders afraid, when will it flip ... up or down.

> SELLERS beware!

> JT
> for the love god & Blue Rush, BUY
> close your eyes
> for profittown $$$$$$
> I'll buy you 2 hammers- if you do

> fyi  Ive never previously TOLD anyone to buy!
> BUT as I said yesterday GLOVES are off
> New Game, is on

> ...................................

> cow bell

> why why whyyyyyyyyyyyy Delilah

> Christopher Walken sings Delilahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH5zmAtLks

> On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > cowbell !!!!!

> > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > quarter.

> > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > they were the previous day.

> > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > trades.

> > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > And my stomach.

> > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> rhizz,

> Enjoy!!!

> http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/pages/snl-more-cowbell.html

> On Nov 5, 10:07 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > t
> > icom

> > Has F announced actual DEBT reduction beyond 10B loan???

> > script;
> > remember Fs Preservation Tax Plan
> > C had one, stock stalled .. for 2 months or & doubled!@in the next
> > spike
> > few other companies did the same.... stock down or sideway & booom

> > Shorts have a effect ... not as crazy as q1 09
> > call selling & put spreads also an effect ... not huge but there
> > VERy modest scared profit taking
> > most traders afraid, when will it flip ... up or down.

> > SELLERS beware!

> > JT
> > for the love god & Blue Rush, BUY
> > close your eyes
> > for profittown $$$$$$
> > I'll buy you 2 hammers- if you do

> > fyi  Ive never previously TOLD anyone to buy!
> > BUT as I said yesterday GLOVES are off
> > New Game, is on

> > ...................................

> > cow bell

> > why why whyyyyyyyyyyyy Delilah

> > Christopher Walken sings Delilahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH5zmAtLks

> > On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > > cowbell !!!!!

> > > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > > quarter.

> > > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > > they were the previous day.

> > > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > > trades.

> > > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > > And my stomach.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> rhizz,

> Enjoy!!!

> http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/pages/snl-more-cowbell.html

> On Nov 5, 10:07 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > t
> > icom

> > Has F announced actual DEBT reduction beyond 10B loan???

> > script;
> > remember Fs Preservation Tax Plan
> > C had one, stock stalled .. for 2 months or & doubled!@in the next
> > spike
> > few other companies did the same.... stock down or sideway & booom

> > Shorts have a effect ... not as crazy as q1 09
> > call selling & put spreads also an effect ... not huge but there
> > VERy modest scared profit taking
> > most traders afraid, when will it flip ... up or down.

> > SELLERS beware!

> > JT
> > for the love god & Blue Rush, BUY
> > close your eyes
> > for profittown $$$$$$
> > I'll buy you 2 hammers- if you do

> > fyi  Ive never previously TOLD anyone to buy!
> > BUT as I said yesterday GLOVES are off
> > New Game, is on

> > ...................................

> > cow bell

> > why why whyyyyyyyyyyyy Delilah

> > Christopher Walken sings Delilahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH5zmAtLks

> > On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > > cowbell !!!!!

> > > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > > quarter.

> > > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > > they were the previous day.

> > > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > > trades.

> > > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > > And my stomach.

> > > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

> > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE share your thoughts!- Hide quoted text -

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> Thanks Rooty~

> keeo the COWBELL COMING!!!!

> On Nov 5, 10:13 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > rhizz,

> > Enjoy!!!

> >http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/pages/snl-more-cowbell.html

> > On Nov 5, 10:07 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > t
> > > icom

> > > Has F announced actual DEBT reduction beyond 10B loan???

> > > script;
> > > remember Fs Preservation Tax Plan
> > > C had one, stock stalled .. for 2 months or & doubled!@in the next
> > > spike
> > > few other companies did the same.... stock down or sideway & booom

> > > Shorts have a effect ... not as crazy as q1 09
> > > call selling & put spreads also an effect ... not huge but there
> > > VERy modest scared profit taking
> > > most traders afraid, when will it flip ... up or down.

> > > SELLERS beware!

> > > JT
> > > for the love god & Blue Rush, BUY
> > > close your eyes
> > > for profittown $$$$$$
> > > I'll buy you 2 hammers- if you do

> > > fyi  Ive never previously TOLD anyone to buy!
> > > BUT as I said yesterday GLOVES are off
> > > New Game, is on

> > > ...................................

> > > cow bell

> > > why why whyyyyyyyyyyyy Delilah

> > > Christopher Walken sings Delilahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH5zmAtLks

> > > On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > > > cowbell !!!!!

> > > > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > > > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > > > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > > > quarter.

> > > > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > > > they were the previous day.

> > > > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > > > trades.

> > > > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > > > And my stomach.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> I had forgotten all about that skit.  Thanks for bringing back a great
> memory.

> We all gotta have more cow bell!!! Perhaps we can have the NYSE bell
> changed.

> On Nov 5, 10:13 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > rhizz,

> > Enjoy!!!

> >http://www.funnyhub.com/videos/pages/snl-more-cowbell.html

> > On Nov 5, 10:07 am, edin <milpr...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > t
> > > icom

> > > Has F announced actual DEBT reduction beyond 10B loan???

> > > script;
> > > remember Fs Preservation Tax Plan
> > > C had one, stock stalled .. for 2 months or & doubled!@in the next
> > > spike
> > > few other companies did the same.... stock down or sideway & booom

> > > Shorts have a effect ... not as crazy as q1 09
> > > call selling & put spreads also an effect ... not huge but there
> > > VERy modest scared profit taking
> > > most traders afraid, when will it flip ... up or down.

> > > SELLERS beware!

> > > JT
> > > for the love god & Blue Rush, BUY
> > > close your eyes
> > > for profittown $$$$$$
> > > I'll buy you 2 hammers- if you do

> > > fyi  Ive never previously TOLD anyone to buy!
> > > BUT as I said yesterday GLOVES are off
> > > New Game, is on

> > > ...................................

> > > cow bell

> > > why why whyyyyyyyyyyyy Delilah

> > > Christopher Walken sings Delilahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEH5zmAtLks

> > > On Nov 5, 9:41 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Thanks Wijram. Let's see if we can productivity up on our
> > > > cowbell !!!!!

> > > > Looks like the pole smokers are at it again. Yeay, a three cent drop
> > > > in half a second. Love it, love it, love it.

> > > > On Nov 5, 9:30 am, from Toronto <lo...@rogers.com> wrote:

> > > > > Anyone read that GS made $8.5 billion in trading revenue last quarter?
> > > > > Only 1 losing day of trading all quarter.  Something like 46 days
> > > > > exceeded $100 million.

> > > > > Of course all that is shy of their record $10 billion of the previous
> > > > > quarter.

> > > > > Who do you think is making the money on trading?

> > > > > As I expected - shorts were not as active a component of yesterday as
> > > > > they were the previous day.

> > > > > A total of 28.4 million shares shorted representing some 11.9% of all
> > > > > trades.

> > > > > That being said - a whopping 107.2 million shares have been shorted so
> > > > > far this week (3 day total).

> > > > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > DJIA futures now up 55 pts with the S&P up 5.5 pts.

> > > > > > Volume at about 1.4MM shares traded.

> > > > > > Last trade a disappointing $7.34.

> > > > > > Really wanted to see regular trading open at $7.37 or higher.  A nice
> > > > > > dime gap would be wonderful for my soul.

> > > > > > And my stomach.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:07 am, DAVE EARLL <tracd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > i expect a POP here as well......any time now.

> > > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > > > > > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > > > > > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > > > > > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > > > > > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > > > > > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > > > > > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > > > > > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > > > > > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > > > > > > their analysts.

> > > > > > > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > > > > > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > > > > > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > > > > > > offered.

> > > > > > > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > > > > > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > > > > > > to play this game.

> > > > > > > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > > > > > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > > > > > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > > > > > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > > > > > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > > > > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > > > > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > > > > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > > > > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > > > > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > > > > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > > > > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > > > > > > say though.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > > > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > > > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > > > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > > > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > > > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > > > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > > > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > > > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > > > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > > > > > > about today?

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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> The most basic response to that question Rooty is as long as they want
> it to. But I think reasonably through the jobs report if its good on
> Friday and beyond if it is not. Sideways trade today. My Guess is we
> are trading with FLASH traders this week, not near as much volume
> today,  but still probably over average #'s  JT

> On Nov 5, 6:20 am, Rooty <justinpaulmar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Howdy Y'all. I think the tide will turn based on the jobs report
> > tomorrow. I was listening to the market place chat on NPR this morning
> > and caught an interesting tidbit. They were saying that September jobs
> > worsened a bit after showing improvement over the summer. This set up
> > a question as to whether September was just a dip or a new trend. Many
> > people will be looking at the October report to see which way things
> > break. The bad news is if the numbers are bad people will freak. Good
> > news is if the numbers are good things should fly.

> > I think this fits in with everything we have seen this month. Things
> > were improving over the summer and then took a hit in September.
> > Everything. Jobs, housing, manufacturing, consumer spending and
> > sentiment, etc... Seems like things have turned in October as all
> > those things are up this month.  Will jobs follow? I sure as hell hope
> > so!

> > Credit upgrades, price upgrades, guidance increase, surprise profit,
> > positive cash flow, first North American operating profit in 4 years,
> > institutional buying, CAW concessions.  How long can manipulation
> > last?

> > On Nov 5, 8:42 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey Rhizz~

> > > I too am still holding some Dec calls.  Also very aware of time decay.

> > > I am not quite as skeptical about "Driver".  Two primary reasons ~ the
> > > GS and the JPM upgrades.

> > > I, of course, have no idea who "Suppressor" and "Driver" are, but I
> > > doubt that those upgrades are coincidental to the new equity offering
> > > and the extension of the revolving credit.  And yes, I am implying
> > > that somehow those two firms being involved in those deals has
> > > something to do with the favorable evaluations (or valuations) by
> > > their analysts.

> > > Of course, I also have NO knowledge of this, but I am speculating that
> > > those two players would want to see F common to rise ~ to overcome by
> > > some margin the dilution effects caused by the new equity being
> > > offered.

> > > In other, very plain words, methinks that "Suppressor" is playing
> > > against the interests of some parties who have just a little ability
> > > to play this game.

> > > The word :"crush" comes to mind.

> > > On the other hand, "Suppressor" must be a party with some depth as
> > > already demonstrated repeatedly.

> > > Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

> > > I do kinda expect one hell of a pop though.

> > > Probably just wishful thinking, eh?

> > > On Nov 5, 7:30 am, Rhizzlebop <michaelrrho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wij- I'm here this morning as well.
> > > > I'ms till holding those Dec calls.  IF I HAVE TO dump them soon, I'd
> > > > LOVE to at least get rid of them in the 7.50s.

> > > > Maybe, worst case, we can just play the swing a few times ahead.  Aka,
> > > > buy in the 7.20 range, and sell near 7.50.  On Dec calls, thats prob
> > > > 20 cent gain, times, in my case, 14000 shares (In calls).
> > > > Of course, if Driver wins today, which I fear he will not, then that
> > > > might not happen as the price might go towards 8.  Highly unlikely I'd
> > > > say though.

> > > > On Nov 5, 8:24 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Hey Chris~

> > > > > Good Morning.

> > > > > I agree, the price this morning certainly does look good.

> > > > > Must note that the players are already at it.

> > > > > Volumes are HUGE for this time of day ~ 219K shares traded already at
> > > > > 8:20.  Last trade at $7.36.

> > > > > So it looks like both players are showing up to play again today.

> > > > > This must be starting to get real serious for both sides.

> > > > > The short numbers from yesterday, will, methinks, prove MOST
> > > > > interesting.

> > > > > Wonder who wins today?

> > > > > Just how deep can those pockets be?

> > > > > Yesterday, "Suppressor" was really helped by the general markets.  How
> > > > > about today?

> > > > > On Nov 5, 7:03 am, Chris Mascia <cmascia...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Premarkets looking good.  R2ish is my call.

> > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:37 am, wijram <wij...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Good Morning Think Tank & All~

> > > > > > > Well, all we can really say is that it will have to be interesting.

> > > > > > > Asia overnight was not pretty.  The Nikkei was off 1.29% with the
> > > > > > > other major Asian markets off half of that.  Europe, on the other
> > > > > > > hand, is also in the red at this hour, with most major markets down a
> > > > > > > little more than .4%.  Oil, likewise, is down $.46, at $7.94.

> > > > > > > On the other hand the DJIA futures are now reported in the black at UP
> > > > > > > 5pts and the S&P is also UP, .7 pts.  Probably helped there by the
> > > > > > > great results and even better guidance reported by CSCO.

> > > > > > > For those that use it, the Pivot Point numbers for F for today are:

> > > > > > > ++++++++
> > > > > > >  Standard
> > > > > > > R3 7.57667
> > > > > > > R2 7.50333
> > > > > > > R1 7.38667
> > > > > > > PP 7.31333
> > > > > > > S1 7.19667
> > > > > > > S2 7.12333
> > > > > > > S3 7.00667
> > > > > > > Observation: BEARISH with a closing price between pivot point and S1.
> > > > > > > +++++++

> > > > > > > And JT's proprietory prediction is decidedly negative.

> > > > > > > On the other hand, JP Morgan has just reaised their target price for F
> > > > > > > from $8 to $10.

> > > > > > > And despite predictions of a gap down opening this morning, the first
> > > > > > > directed trades of the day for F actually opened at $7.36.

> > > > > > > So, the questions are, as always, what do YOU see ahead today for F.
> > > > > > > By the time the regular markets open, what will the first trade in
> > > > > > > those markets be?  How low will it dip, how HIGH can it reach, and for
> > > > > > > the longs among us, what will the day's closing price be?

> > > > > > > Will the market's see the recent efforts to improve the balance sheet
> > > > > > > as the positive that the analysts have been saying they do, or will F
> > > > > > > stock continue to follow the path predicted by JT and others?

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