> On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > stockholders.
> > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> On Jul 4, 7:36 pm, walnut <walnut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > So the stock holders present would"t be washed out? worthless?

> > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > stockholders.
> > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > stockholders.
> > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > stockholders.
> > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > stockholders.
> > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> that want to stay in.
> 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

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> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> that want to stay in.
> 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > America!

> > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > that want to stay in.
> > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > America!

> > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > America!

> > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 5, 5:52 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > > America!

> > > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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> It appears the unforeseeable disaster you spoke of has come to pass.
> Shock of all shocks, the GM 363 bankuptcy sale has been approved with
> no recovery whatsoever provided for the common stockholder.  In but a
> few days, GMGMQ (from herein to be known, according to GM, as "Old
> Liquidation") will probably be cancelled and relegated to the trashcan
> of history.  Who could have seen this 6-sigma event coming?  Well,
> everyone but you is probably a fair answer.  In any case, please let
> the rest of us mere mortals know when your "foreign hegde fund" is
> going to divest all of its US holdings to punish the American economy
> for destroying your GMGMQ position so we can get out of the way.  Lord
> knows I do not want to be long anything when the Cicero Fund comes in
> blazing!

> Yours humbly,
> Brad

> On Jul 5, 6:04 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > GMGMQ is 35% of the new GM. I don't want a quickie 20% here. I bought
> > FIAT in 2002 I made 170% in 3 years, same "bankruptcy" story. The new
> > GM may be worth 60 bn, so GMGMQ will be worth 18 bucks minimum in 5
> > years.

> > On Jul 5, 5:52 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > > > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > > > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > > > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > > > America!

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
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> Yes, this sure was a Black Swan event, wasn't it? ;-)

> On Jul 6, 8:16 am, G-Brad <bradla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Cicero-

> > It appears the unforeseeable disaster you spoke of has come to pass.
> > Shock of all shocks, the GM 363 bankuptcy sale has been approved with
> > no recovery whatsoever provided for the common stockholder.  In but a
> > few days, GMGMQ (from herein to be known, according to GM, as "Old
> > Liquidation") will probably be cancelled and relegated to the trashcan
> > of history.  Who could have seen this 6-sigma event coming?  Well,
> > everyone but you is probably a fair answer.  In any case, please let
> > the rest of us mere mortals know when your "foreign hegde fund" is
> > going to divest all of its US holdings to punish the American economy
> > for destroying your GMGMQ position so we can get out of the way.  Lord
> > knows I do not want to be long anything when the Cicero Fund comes in
> > blazing!

> > Yours humbly,
> > Brad

> > On Jul 5, 6:04 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > GMGMQ is 35% of the new GM. I don't want a quickie 20% here. I bought
> > > FIAT in 2002 I made 170% in 3 years, same "bankruptcy" story. The new
> > > GM may be worth 60 bn, so GMGMQ will be worth 18 bucks minimum in 5
> > > years.

> > > On Jul 5, 5:52 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > > > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > > > > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > > > > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > > > > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > > > > America!

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
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> - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> America!

> On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > that want to stay in.
> > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 5, 11:45 am, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > America!

> > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > that want to stay in.
> > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 6, 11:45 am, Trance_Emotion <tranc3mot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > You think GM's bankruptcy will cause the US to lose a MAJORITY of
> > their foreign investment? Which world do you live in?

> > On Jul 5, 11:45 am, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > America!

> > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

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> On Jul 6, 11:57 am, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > look at China's summit yesterday they already said they will reduce
> > USD exposures - the feeling there is that Obama will bring in a wave
> > of black empowerment similar to South Africa in the '90s. Then the ZAR
> > depreciated 100% from 3 to a sollar to 6 to a dollar in less than 3
> > years.

> > On Jul 6, 11:45 am, Trance_Emotion <tranc3mot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > You think GM's bankruptcy will cause the US to lose a MAJORITY of
> > > their foreign investment? Which world do you live in?

> > > On Jul 5, 11:45 am, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > America!

> > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
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> On Jul 5, 5:52 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > > America!

> > > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
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> Citation, please.

> Actually, GMGMQ is 0% of the new GM.  Zero, zip, nada.  Heck, GMGMQ is
> practically 0% of the OLD GM.

> GM, in their infinite managerial wisdom, is bringing all of the "good"
> assets into the new company, and leaving the toxic stuff with - you
> guessed it - GMGMQ.

> So explain how GMGMQ is an ethical instrument, deserving of
> investment.  Good luck; it's nothing but a traders' play.

> We need a new market for this trash; one that trades worthless paper
> with no connection to real value.

> On Jul 5, 7:04 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > GMGMQ is 35% of the new GM. I don't want a quickie 20% here. I bought
> > FIAT in 2002 I made 170% in 3 years, same "bankruptcy" story. The new
> > GM may be worth 60 bn, so GMGMQ will be worth 18 bucks minimum in 5
> > years.

> > On Jul 5, 5:52 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > On Jul 5, 5:46 pm, Monsoon <jean...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > > They may be morons, or they are trying to manipulate the stock for a
> > > > quick profit by spreading misleading news, game of hot potato, the
> > > > last to hold the stock gets burned.  In any case there is no reason
> > > > for this kind of verbal abuse.

> > > > On Jul 5, 2:40 pm, Hugh Jaashole <spambot2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN NOW U DUM FUK COMMON SHARE HOLDERS END UP WIT
> > > > > NOTHING!!!!!!!!! WHAT PART U NOT UNDERSTAND U FUKKIN
> > > > > MORONS?????????????? U GOT 2 BE THE STUPIDIST BUNCH OF FUKKIN RETARDS
> > > > > EVER 2 BUY STOCK!!!!!!!!! THIS CO IS BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!! UR SHARES HAVE
> > > > > NO VALUE!!!!!!!!!! TEH ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ANY WORTH NOW IS COZ
> > > > > THERE R SO MANY OF YOU FUKKIN CLUELESS MORONS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > FUKKIN CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL CAN BE SO FUKKIN IGNORANT. NO WONDER
> > > > > OBAMA GOT ELECTED. FUKKIN MORONS.

> > > > > On Jul 5, 2:45 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > so in essence this is a stern warning:

> > > > > > - if Obama confiscates the existing GMGMQ equity of 35% playing with
> > > > > > bankrupt legal entities while as a foreign hedge fund I hold 2% of
> > > > > > this equity, we will understand that US has started its October
> > > > > > Revolution with the confiscations thereof and they will lose majority
> > > > > > of their foreign investment including support for the USD. Good Bye
> > > > > > America!

> > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:55 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > so in essence the gov't is now:

> > > > > > > 1. extending maturity date for defaulted corporate bonds for creditors
> > > > > > > that want to stay in.
> > > > > > > 2. taking the place of some creditors that do not want to stay in.
> > > > > > > 3. providing even more liquidity on top of existing bonds and hoping
> > > > > > > to get out through an IPO after a few quarters.

> > > > > > > This has logic and hopefully is the logic.

> > > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > They can only do an IPO to issue shares in place of the government
> > > > > > > > participation so they can pull out early, hopefully after a few
> > > > > > > > quarters of strong profits. The stock will be relisted in 2 weeks.

> > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:14 am, Mikey Mike <mikeyjone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > There WILL be a new IPO early 2010.  The CEO has stated this over and
> > > > > > > > > over.  This stock was just dropped so a big /salute to the bagholders
> > > > > > > > > that consistently called me an idiot for warning you to sell the stock
> > > > > > > > > before it dissolved.  I wanted to thank the idiots that consistently
> > > > > > > > > hyped this up so that I could pull thousands worth of profits while
> > > > > > > > > also knowing I wasn't going to hold the bag in the end.  /salute to
> > > > > > > > > the bagholders and happy 4th of July.  I had a big barbecue thanks to
> > > > > > > > > your money.  Enough said and feel free to bash me as this will be my
> > > > > > > > > last post as I laugh to the bank.

> > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:24 am, John <raspberryl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Wow - this is a load of bullshit.  GMGMQ is going to get wiped out.
> > > > > > > > > > It is in bankruptcy - so new stock can be issued "against the blood of
> > > > > > > > > > old stockholders" - whatever that means.  This guy is a dreamer - a
> > > > > > > > > > dreamer who also happens to be an idiot.

> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 6:09 pm, Cicero <climbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > there is no IPO - new stock cannot be issued against the blood of old
> > > > > > > > > > > stockholders.
> > > > > > > > > > > the only dilution here is if the gov't does not get out as promised,
> > > > > > > > > > > or if they increase their 65% share.
> > > > > > > > > > > again to make this clear government owns no stock here, they only get
> > > > > > > > > > > new bonds (guaranteed)- so preferreds.- Hide quoted text -

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