> bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY

> bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY

> When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> missing altogether?

> On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY

> yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > missing altogether?

> > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY

> yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > missing altogether?

> > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> We can't use news reporting as a basis for fact.  Are you suggesting
> to use the Google discussion board instead?  Dude, I'm as much of a
> fanboy as anyone.   I own just about every Apple product but it looks
> to me like the Chinese regulations and government could push the
> iPhone to the black market.   There still might be a Halo effect but I
> think it is way too soon to make such dramatic predictions.
> Personally, I hope you are right since I am long on Apple.

> On Nov 4, 10:13 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> > 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> > to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> > one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> > about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> > an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> > social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> > everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> > enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> > chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> > then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> > analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> > that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> > On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > > missing altogether?

> > > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY

> No need to push the iphone to the black markt. It has been selling in
> the black market for many months now, and that version has wifi, even
> better than the legit version. But no worries, because the chinese gov
> is caving in to public pressure and allowing future iphones to have
> wifi. Sales will reach 5 million for sure

> On Nov 5, 12:36 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > We can't use news reporting as a basis for fact.  Are you suggesting
> > to use the Google discussion board instead?  Dude, I'm as much of a
> > fanboy as anyone.   I own just about every Apple product but it looks
> > to me like the Chinese regulations and government could push the
> > iPhone to the black market.   There still might be a Halo effect but I
> > think it is way too soon to make such dramatic predictions.
> > Personally, I hope you are right since I am long on Apple.

> > On Nov 4, 10:13 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> > > 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> > > to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> > > one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> > > about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> > > an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> > > social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> > > everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> > > enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> > > chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> > > then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> > > analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> > > that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> > > On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > > > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > > > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > > > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > > > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > > > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > > > missing altogether?

> > > > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> How are they caving into public pressure? They haven't even unblocked
> facebook and youtube yet.

> And 5 million for sure? From what assumptions?

> On Nov 4, 9:22 am, "jobsisjesus !" <jobsisje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > No need to push the iphone to the black markt. It has been selling in
> > the black market for many months now, and that version has wifi, even
> > better than the legit version. But no worries, because the chinese gov
> > is caving in to public pressure and allowing future iphones to have
> > wifi. Sales will reach 5 million for sure

> > On Nov 5, 12:36 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > We can't use news reporting as a basis for fact.  Are you suggesting
> > > to use the Google discussion board instead?  Dude, I'm as much of a
> > > fanboy as anyone.   I own just about every Apple product but it looks
> > > to me like the Chinese regulations and government could push the
> > > iPhone to the black market.   There still might be a Halo effect but I
> > > think it is way too soon to make such dramatic predictions.
> > > Personally, I hope you are right since I am long on Apple.

> > > On Nov 4, 10:13 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> > > > 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> > > > to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> > > > one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> > > > about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> > > > an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> > > > social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> > > > everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> > > > enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> > > > chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> > > > then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> > > > analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> > > > that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> > > > On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > > > > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > > > > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > > > > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > > > > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > > > > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > > > > missing altogether?

> > > > > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > > > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > > > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > > > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > > > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > > > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> You guys focus on wifi - Unicom has one of the fastest 3G networks and
> the capacity to deliver the bandwidth from what I hear - makes WIFI a
> non issue on the phone - it does limit the usefulness of the touch...

> On Nov 4, 1:09 pm, Trance_Emotion <tranc3mot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > How are they caving into public pressure? They haven't even unblocked
> > facebook and youtube yet.

> > And 5 million for sure? From what assumptions?

> > On Nov 4, 9:22 am, "jobsisjesus !" <jobsisje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > No need to push the iphone to the black markt. It has been selling in
> > > the black market for many months now, and that version has wifi, even
> > > better than the legit version. But no worries, because the chinese gov
> > > is caving in to public pressure and allowing future iphones to have
> > > wifi. Sales will reach 5 million for sure

> > > On Nov 5, 12:36 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > We can't use news reporting as a basis for fact.  Are you suggesting
> > > > to use the Google discussion board instead?  Dude, I'm as much of a
> > > > fanboy as anyone.   I own just about every Apple product but it looks
> > > > to me like the Chinese regulations and government could push the
> > > > iPhone to the black market.   There still might be a Halo effect but I
> > > > think it is way too soon to make such dramatic predictions.
> > > > Personally, I hope you are right since I am long on Apple.

> > > > On Nov 4, 10:13 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > yes - well, i dont think we can use "news" reporting as a basis of
> > > > > 'fact' any more - but, almost all of those stores had very few phones
> > > > > to sell - tech asians (no stereotype, well at least not a derogatory
> > > > > one, meant) will have this un-locked in a moment - the question is
> > > > > about service, every day use, itunes - and because the iphone is SUCH
> > > > > an enourmously important "source of information/access/free enterprise/
> > > > > social advancement) we will see the chineese want unfettered access to
> > > > > everything apple has to offer - to our kids, and growingly our
> > > > > enterprise and entreprueneurs iphone is already indipensible) but to
> > > > > chineese who dont have ready access, this is GOLDEN, more important
> > > > > then anything we could comprehend ... that is the difference no
> > > > > analyst is understanding - this is the second Berlin Wall - remember
> > > > > that statement -THE SECOND BERLIN WALL

> > > > > On Nov 4, 11:01 am, RFPMN <robertfpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > When you use words like "truth", you need to back it up with some
> > > > > > facts.  I heard they only added 5,000 subscribers this morning on Mac
> > > > > > OS Ken podcast.   I think it is fair, if that is true, that the launch
> > > > > > was underwhelming.  I love my iPhone but I doubt I would purchase one
> > > > > > if it didn't have WiFi.   That severely handicaps the device,   Is the
> > > > > > wireless capability in the hardware but just not enabled or is it
> > > > > > missing altogether?

> > > > > > On Nov 4, 9:45 am, 2toetv <2to...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > bits of purposefull mis-information circulates - the truth is many
> > > > > > > stores sold the few iphones they had almost immediately - and that the
> > > > > > > company expects to sell million per month - you know, of course, this
> > > > > > > doesnt include IMAC, IPOD, Itouch, itv, and the coming ISlate -
> > > > > > > virtually tripling its potential market .... why do analyst only
> > > > > > > concentrate on the phone - the HALO effect is the STORY- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -