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From: chleoku <chle...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
As expected, our employment rate is reaching the dangerous 9.5% level
and inching towards 10% benchmark of depression. Umemployment would not peak until mid 2010. Looks like we are heading to the Dow 7500-800 level soon: http://www.wealthalchemist.com/Blog/2009/07/unemployment-nears-double...
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From: Paul <paulmorrison...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 3 2009 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Will 10 percent unemployment affect a company that relies on consumers
spending more money than they need to? I'm not sure, but it certainly does not help (especially with its
I wouldn't touch this company at this price.
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From: 10101010 <bil...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 3 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Depends on what you mean by "suffer".
I think the current employment trend has enough history; and Apple relative sales have enough history, for one to be able to do some pretty simple extrapolation. It's common knowledge that Apple has fared far better than most comparable companies in this economy. That said; the MMs will push "AAPL" wherever they want, regardless of what's actually happening with "Apple". Steve Jobs said (many years ago) that Apple was going to get through the economic tough times through "innovation". That strategy's been working pretty well for them, I'd say. I can't wait to see what they will be unleashing in the next 12-18 months. On Jul 3, 12:16 pm, chleoku <chle...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Paul <paulmorrison...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 3 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Looks good so far.
The problem is the leader changes rapidly in the phone and gadget
You can go from top to bottom
Just ask Motorola.
Or just ask AAPL in early 2000s.
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From: Nicu <nicu.mihala...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 02:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 5:25 am
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
everything is possible, Paul
but we should talk about what is probable (more than 50%) and I think
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From: caruso2323 <caruso2...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:18:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 6:18 am
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
nicu, Some people quit their math courses very early in life ... lol
So the Unemployment goes up from 9.5% to 9.6% ... : Worse case
But to the average educated bullish investor it may mean that given
This same sucker has posted relative to P/E ... P have almost doubled
I believe that GOOG financial ought to set math tests to wanna-bee
I am not claiming that AAPL will not drop should there be a market
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From: homsapiens <homsapi...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:47:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 10:47 am
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Not any more. Once a platform has been established (60,000 apps and a
billion + downloads) people tend to stick with it. Apple will milk this platform for a decade or more as the de facto standard for mobile computing. No other manufacturer comes close. On Jul 3, 1:13 pm, Paul <paulmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Constable Odo <constableo...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:51:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Apple probably won't suffer, but investors might. Apple can ride out
it's reserve cash for years, but long term investors most likely won't see a thing from it. I got into Apple in 2004 and was part of the rise and split, but since hitting $200 it's been a rocky ride. It dropped down below $100 and no dividends. Hedge funds and the media can just keep holding Apple down as long as they like. I can only look forward to China buying millions of iPhones but that's just grasping for straws. Apple is going to have to sell 10 million iPhones a quarter to move the stock significantly and I don't know if that's possible. No matter how much reserve cash Apple can stack up, it doesn't move the share price at all. Some say the cash reserve is a hindrance, but I'm uncertain about that. Unfortunately, businesses want nothing to do with the iPhone and that's a serious problem since it continues to give RIM all the leverage and almost unlimited cash flow to compete with Apple. Apple doesn't seem to be concerned about this at all, so investors are sort of left to dangle about. On Jul 3, 12:16 pm, chleoku <chle...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: gmgravytrain <gmgravytr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 04:06:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 5 2009 7:06 am
Subject: Re: Is the apple going to suffer from high unemployment and low spending power
Apple seems somewhat tied to the DJIA, at least to some degree. I
think that if the Dow Jones could get up to around 10,000, Apple could get back to around $180 or so. The DJIA lost about 500 points in June but Apple managed to stay flat which is pretty decent. I don't want to see the Dow back at 7500 because I'm sure it will drop Apple back $10 or so. I just know that some of Apple's best quarters are being wasted in this crappy economy. This is not Apple's doing. On another note, I'm curious about how well Microsoft will perform
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