> Apple To Drop Mac Prices 25% For Black Friday. Here is the ad that
> just came out internally. Are times tough for the new laptops?http://tinycomb.com/2009/11/17/apple-black-friday-deals-to-see-mac-pr...

> Apple is a great buy long term, but if you are trading on short term
> basis, you should be thinking of selling it soon. It might make a run
> up for another $2, but it will pull back to low $190 range. When it
> does, that's the time to buy. At these level, this stock is overbought
> and it could pull back soon.

> On Nov 23, 9:12 am, Jeff Stafford <jefflstaff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Ha.  Yes.  By BuyHigh's philosophy (should it be sell high?) we
> > would've missed out on $4/share of gains today.

> > On Nov 23, 9:38 am, JBMoney <bessl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Yes wait and pay 220.

> > > On Nov 23, 8:00 am, buyhigh_selllow <meaculpa12...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Don't you just love the way these asshole money managers drive up the
> > > > price of AAPL from 200 to 202 before any of us can even begin to trade
> > > > until 8:00am- Hide quoted text -

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> KenC,

> I have been through Korea many, many times over the years and the
> various GSM phones that I had did not work there. A WCDMA network has
> been in existence in Korea, starting in Seoul, from as long ago as
> 2006, but none of my phones ever worked. Everybody I asked assured me
> GSM phones did not work in Korea, as it was CDMA only. So I always
> accepted that as the truth. I decided to investigate further, and the
> results are disappointing. This is not a "world" iPhone at all, but a
> "GSM" one. I'll start with a highly simplified explanation.

> GSM and CDMA are both hopelessly confusing terms now as they
> originally referred to a technology, but quickly became a "brand"
> instead. As both GSM and CDMA evolved, nobody could be bothered
> learning the new acronyms and everybody kept calling them GSM and
> CDMA. The progression (simplified) is like this.

> GSM (1G) -> WAP (1.5G) -> GPRS (2G)-> EDGE (2.5G) [all TDMA up to
> here]-> UMTS/WCDMA (3G)

> CDMA one -> CDMA2000/EVDO (3G)

> Both streams will end up using the same 4G LTE, so this whole
> discussion will become irrelevant soon. Thank God.

> So, Korea has had a WCDMA (2100MHz) network for nearly 3 years now, so
> why did my phones never work? A 1G or 2G or 2.5G phone (first iPhone)
> would not work, as Korea never built a network for them, and they in
> turn cannot see the 2100MHz network. But I've taken my 3G iPhone and
> other 3G phones there and it never found a cell, and that means quad-
> band UMTS, which means WCDMA 2100. But when I popped my France Orange
> iPhone's SIM card into a Korean CDMA phone, it read my data and
> roamed. So, what gives?

> There is a non-tariff hidden trade barrier at work here. Korea was
> until 3 years ago CDMA only. CDMA phones do not use SIM cards in the
> same way that GSM phones do; the USIM cards in Korea can be used as
> account information, but are not and are for other information, such
> as wireless payments. Thus, the (normal for CDMA) practice was to use
> the IMEI of the phone alone. Korea has continued this onto GSM phones.
> So, let's say you bought an iPhone or a GSM Razr in America and wanted
> to use it in Korea. You'd need to hand it in to the KCC (equiv of the
> FCC) and have it tested, and certified and the IMEI number uploaded to
> the Korean carriers' computers and pay them several hundred dollars.
> This is the hidden barrier to imports of GSM phones into Korea. So,
> all iPhones sold in Korea will have their IMEIs registered to Korean
> carriers, and will work there. My iPhone was broadcasting its SIM info
> to the towers as hard as it could, but the computers were saying
> "Nope, I don't have your IMEI so you don't get to join this network"
> and rejected it. I'm curious to see if the SIMs in Korean iPhones will
> carry the account info in order for them to work in other countries'
> GSM networks. Either way, if you bought a Korean iPhone and took it
> overseas and put a local SIM in, it would work.

> As an aside, the latest version of UMTS includes TD-SCDMA, which means
> that simply swapping a chip in the iPhone would allow it to work with
> China Mobile too. That's the one good bit of news to come out of this.

> As a technical aside, I just read that TDMA and CDMA use different
> radio configurations, so that's not easy, but WCDMA and CDMA can share
> the same antenna configurations. WCDMA "borrows" many elements from
> CDMA, but retains other aspects of GSM. Kind of like the CISC vs RISC
> issue, current Intel CISC CPUs have RISC like elements married to CISC
> elements. The latest estimate for the "world" phone chip is spring of
> 2010, from Qualcomm.

> As another aside, I'll be flying through Korea in about 3 weeks time,
> so I'll be able to test if foreign phones will finally be allowed onto
> the network there.

> What is certain is that this is *NOT* a world iPhone, and it is not
> Verizon capable. How disappointing.

> On Nov 23, 11:11 pm, KenC <ken.c.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm no expert on cellphone radios, but my understanding is that Korea
> > uses WCDMA which is also known as GSM which is what the iPhone uses.
> > CDMA as used by Verizon is not the same. As for China Mobile, the
> > Chinese government assigns the 3G standard each of the 3 carriers may
> > use. China Mobile got the homegrown TD-SCDMA, which has been
> > problematic and slow to gain traction. China Unicom got GSM which the
> > iPhone uses. I think for Apple to include a TD-SCDMA chip in its
> > iPhone, would require a minimum order in the millions in order for
> > Apple to justify/amortize the development costs. How hard is it to add
> > a radio? Well, there's not a whole lot of room inside an iPhone, and
> > any extra room would be best used for a larger battery. Also, I've
> > been told it's not as simple as adding a chip, you also have to
> > redesign the antenna configuration, which as you can imagine in a
> > tightly packed cellphone is not easy.

> > On Nov 23, 3:54 pm, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> > > However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> > > behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> > > mention the broader implications.

> > > Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> > > already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> > > more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> > >http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> > > The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> > > most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> > > of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> > > We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> > > big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> > > months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> > > Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> > > talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> > > carriers.

> > > Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> > > the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> > > Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> > > how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> Ha.  Yes.  By BuyHigh's philosophy (should it be sell high?) we
> would've missed out on $4/share of gains today.

> On Nov 23, 9:38 am, JBMoney <bessl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Yes wait and pay 220.

> > On Nov 23, 8:00 am, buyhigh_selllow <meaculpa12...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Don't you just love the way these asshole money managers drive up the
> > > price of AAPL from 200 to 202 before any of us can even begin to trade
> > > until 8:00am- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

> http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> mention the broader implications.

> Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> carriers.

> Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> I'm no expert on cellphone radios, but my understanding is that Korea
> uses WCDMA which is also known as GSM which is what the iPhone uses.
> CDMA as used by Verizon is not the same. As for China Mobile, the
> Chinese government assigns the 3G standard each of the 3 carriers may
> use. China Mobile got the homegrown TD-SCDMA, which has been
> problematic and slow to gain traction. China Unicom got GSM which the
> iPhone uses. I think for Apple to include a TD-SCDMA chip in its
> iPhone, would require a minimum order in the millions in order for
> Apple to justify/amortize the development costs. How hard is it to add
> a radio? Well, there's not a whole lot of room inside an iPhone, and
> any extra room would be best used for a larger battery. Also, I've
> been told it's not as simple as adding a chip, you also have to
> redesign the antenna configuration, which as you can imagine in a
> tightly packed cellphone is not easy.

> On Nov 23, 3:54 pm, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> > However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> > behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> > mention the broader implications.

> > Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> > already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> > more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> >http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> > The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> > most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> > of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> > We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> > big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> > months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> > Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> > talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> > carriers.

> > Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> > the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> > Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> > how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> i guess when you are desperate you will try anything.

> On Nov 23, 6:58 am, .........:::®©:::¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨

> <jordan.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > haaaaaaaaaahahahaha

> >http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/22/murdoch-microsoft-de.html

> I'm no expert on cellphone radios, but my understanding is that Korea
> uses WCDMA which is also known as GSM which is what the iPhone uses.
> CDMA as used by Verizon is not the same. As for China Mobile, the
> Chinese government assigns the 3G standard each of the 3 carriers may
> use. China Mobile got the homegrown TD-SCDMA, which has been
> problematic and slow to gain traction. China Unicom got GSM which the
> iPhone uses. I think for Apple to include a TD-SCDMA chip in its
> iPhone, would require a minimum order in the millions in order for
> Apple to justify/amortize the development costs. How hard is it to add
> a radio? Well, there's not a whole lot of room inside an iPhone, and
> any extra room would be best used for a larger battery. Also, I've
> been told it's not as simple as adding a chip, you also have to
> redesign the antenna configuration, which as you can imagine in a
> tightly packed cellphone is not easy.

> On Nov 23, 3:54 pm, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> > However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> > behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> > mention the broader implications.

> > Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> > already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> > more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> >http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> > The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> > most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> > of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> > We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> > big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> > months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> > Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> > talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> > carriers.

> > Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> > the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> > Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> > how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> I'm no expert on cellphone radios, but my understanding is that Korea
> uses WCDMA which is also known as GSM which is what the iPhone uses.
> CDMA as used by Verizon is not the same. As for China Mobile, the
> Chinese government assigns the 3G standard each of the 3 carriers may
> use. China Mobile got the homegrown TD-SCDMA, which has been
> problematic and slow to gain traction. China Unicom got GSM which the
> iPhone uses. I think for Apple to include a TD-SCDMA chip in its
> iPhone, would require a minimum order in the millions in order for
> Apple to justify/amortize the development costs. How hard is it to add
> a radio? Well, there's not a whole lot of room inside an iPhone, and
> any extra room would be best used for a larger battery. Also, I've
> been told it's not as simple as adding a chip, you also have to
> redesign the antenna configuration, which as you can imagine in a
> tightly packed cellphone is not easy.

> On Nov 23, 3:54 pm, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> > However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> > behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> > mention the broader implications.

> > Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> > already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> > more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> >http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> > The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> > most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> > of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> > We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> > big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> > months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> > Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> > talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> > carriers.

> > Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> > the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> > Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> > how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> mention the broader implications.

> Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> carriers.

> Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> If you want to go out on a little bit of a spec limb, suggest looking
> at RIMM as well.  I might open a Apr 65 position by the end of the
> day.  Expect some good black Friday sales and that may give it a short
> term upward push into early Dec.  Overall, RIMM has been hit or miss
> for me. Not a consistent earner unlike AAPL.

> On Nov 23, 1:10 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Nice analysis guys. Thanks.

> > I haven't opened anything on Apple yet but will probably look to open
> > one before the close. Was hoping for a better price but its not
> > looking likely right now.

> > On 23 Nov, 17:12, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Agree with your analysis.  I did get back in with Apr 195 on Friday
> > > before the close.  I was hoping to see it pull back Friday all the way
> > > to 195, it only got to 197. Even though the market us huge up, I still
> > > am disappointed in volume.  Resistance is still at 208, and I'd love
> > > to see it break through. That said, I think I'll buy more on a pull
> > > back to 201 since that's at the lower end of the range.  Good
> > > trading.  Cheers.

> > > On Nov 23, 11:09 am, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Good move. The puts I was holding expired on Friday, and were closed
> > > > for a small profit. I tried to get back in with calls this morning,
> > > > but the order never filled and it gapped up $3 on open.

> > > > AAPL is back into the 200-208 range again. She needs to break over the
> > > > 204.60 mark with convincing volume to have a real shot at retesting
> > > > the all time high of 208 and change. My RIMM calls filled so at least
> > > > I managed to catch one fish today. Volumes to the downside were light
> > > > on Friday, but this is all about the dollar. The US Dollar index
> > > > (^DXY) dropped 0.50 today (on Friday it jumped roughly the same
> > > > amount), and the markets worldwide jumped accordingly.

> > > > On a market wide level, volumes were light enough to mark Friday as
> > > > having completed the pullback for the short term. Expect all the
> > > > indices to try to retest their highs again, and Dow to challenge the
> > > > 10500 level. We came within inches of it today. I'm now assuming that
> > > > we rally into Thanksgiving. On a longer term basis, the market has
> > > > lifted 60-70% off the March lows without any significant pullback, and
> > > > that's a once in an eighty year event. A serious pullback will come,
> > > > but I have no idea when.

> > > > On Nov 23, 4:05 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Glad I closed my positions at the close on Friday. Didn't want to be
> > > > > shorting over the weekend.

> > > > > On Nov 20, 8:06 pm, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > My personal belief is that AAPL is being pinned at 200 today. As I
> > > > > > write this, RIMM is 20c under $60, Dell is 60c under $15, Amazon is
> > > > > > 34c under $130, MSFT is 35c under $30, HPQ is 8c over $50 and Google
> > > > > > is 12c over $570. Every one of them within cents of being pinned at a
> > > > > > multiple of $10 (or of $5 for cheaper stocks). Another thread was
> > > > > > discussing this too, whether it's natural or manipulation. All that
> > > > > > matters is that it does happen.

> > > > > > Right now, AAPL's behaviour next week is completely ambiguous to me.
> > > > > > It came down on such light volume that it hasn't really provided any
> > > > > > new information of what it wants to do. Safest plan right now is to
> > > > > > assume it will trade with the market. Today's drop was all about the
> > > > > > USD. What the USD does over the weekend will dictate Monday's open.

> > > > > > On Nov 20, 8:34 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hiya Guys, Apple is holding up pretty well today. Do you see this
> > > > > > > correction continuing next week or do you think it'll be limited to
> > > > > > > where we are now, especially given that's Options are up today? I guss
> > > > > > > there will be 2 schools of thought on that depending on whether you
> > > > > > > think it was a correction or based on Option expiration?

> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 12:46 pm, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Nolavabo - pleased to meet you as well.  How are thinks on the
> > > > > > > > Continent?  Our styles are similar.  I look for stocks with good
> > > > > > > > fundamentals, a desirable product/service, and then use a number of
> > > > > > > > technical indicators for entry/exit.  I'm more of a momentum trader
> > > > > > > > and rarely short or use puts.  Cheers & good trading.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 11:04 am, nolavabo <nolav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Oldtar and Calan,

> > > > > > > > > pleased to make both your acquaintances.

> > > > > > > > > Oldtar, our styles of TA seem to share a lot in common. Mine is based
> > > > > > > > > primarily on swing points (support and resistance points) and volume,
> > > > > > > > > then in decreasing importance trading ranges and MACD. However, volume
> > > > > > > > > is easily the 2nd most important factor I keep track of. This market
> > > > > > > > > has been going up inexorably on low volume, and just feels plain old
> > > > > > > > > wrong. As you say, volume as we come into the lows of the range will
> > > > > > > > > tell us where we are going next.

> > > > > > > > > Calan, I am also very leery of shorting AAPL, given its amazingly
> > > > > > > > > strong performance this year. But the signs were just shouting too
> > > > > > > > > loud for me to stay long so I closed those out and only kept the short
> > > > > > > > > half of my positions. Glad you managed to turn a pullback into a
> > > > > > > > > profit. Be very quick to lock in your profits if AAPL looks like
> > > > > > > > > snapping back as she is an absolute magnet for "buy on the dips"ers.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 4:07 pm, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > 201 is the first support level.  Then 192 (50 SMA).  If AAPL holds
> > > > > > > > > > above 201, I'll buy some 200 APR calls  (got stopped out of the rest
> > > > > > > > > > of my 190s with a very handsome profit.  Recall, I sold half on the
> > > > > > > > > > way up when ~202).  Still think this is part of a general market
> > > > > > > > > > correction of a few days.  Hopefully volume will stay down.  If the
> > > > > > > > > > correction has high volume, then we are in for recession part 2.  If
> > > > > > > > > > low volume correction, I think we will be up in Dec/Jan going into CES
> > > > > > > > > > and ER.  That has been my consistent thesis.  Cheers & good trading.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 9:58 am, starnyc <star...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > AAPL is not correcting. Markets worldwide sold off and the US DOLLAR
> > > > > > > > > > > rose. I suspect that China devalued their currency again.

> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 9:42 am, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > I've actually changed this. I'm now shorting Appl and waiting to see
> > > > > > > > > > > > how badly it corrects. I'll close it immediately if things get
> > > > > > > > > > > > positive.

> > > > > > > > > > > > If Dell deliver strong earnings tonight it might cause a rally on Mon
> > > > > > > > > > > > but unlikely if the market is down.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't often short Aapl. I'm clearly feeling risky. Normally when I
> > > > > > > > > > > > deviate from a solid fundamental strategy it bites me in the ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > We'll see how it works this time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 18 Nov, 21:00, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You've convinced me. I've implemented a spread bet strategy that'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > pay off if we drop back and then recover again.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm now betting £2.50 per 1c movement to the upside, and hedging it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with £2.50 per 1c point to the downside. If the market corrects, I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > close the short position at what looks like the bottom for a nice win,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and then wait for it to come back and reduce the loss on the flip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > side. I'll also double my upside at what seems the bottom of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > correction so I'm doubling up on the way back.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The strategy probably sounds like madness but I was considering it for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the last correction and if I'd done it would've made another £20k.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > With very little risk I'll give it a crack this time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 7:27 pm, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calan - I'm holding onto my shares with a trailing stop at 12% since I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > am very profitable there (currently at 184), have a 10 % trailing stop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on very profitable 190 options.  That's my hedge in case I am wrong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and AAPL goes up.  It's also my insurance if it goes down.  I started
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a new thread on the board with other info.  cheers & good trading.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 1:41 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/11/23/cheaper.than.american.plans/

> However, nobody seems to have understood the much larger implications
> behind this. I have read quite a few stories on this, and none of the
> mention the broader implications.

> Korea is a CDMA only country. Therefore, a CDMA capable iPhone must
> already exist and is currently being manufactured. You can see some
> more specs of the Korean iPhone here (in Korean)

> http://phonestore.show.co.kr/handler/N2

> The key is that they refer to a USIM, not a SIM or a CSIM. USIMs are
> most commonly used in what are called "world" phones, or ones capable
> of using both CDMA and GSM networks.

> We still need to wait for confirmation of this, but if so it's very
> big news. Consider the timing. Apple launches a CDMA phone exactly 6
> months before the exclusive contract with AT&T expires? This sets
> Apple up perfectly to play Verizon and AT&T off each other in upcoming
> talks, and squeeze the best possible terms out of the American
> carriers.

> Let's not forget that China Mobile (not China Unicom who already sells
> the iPhone) is trying to shift all of their handsets to TD-SCDMA.
> Right now, "world" phones do not handle TD-SCDMA, CDMA and GSM, but
> how hard could it be to add that one extra variation?

> Hurts to be persecuted, don't it? Give that a little thought next time
> you are deciding to be or not to be a slimy bigot!!

> On Nov 20, 5:15 pm, Buddy <flo2...@mac.com> wrote:

> > On Nov 20, 5:06 pm, Buddy <flo2...@mac.com> wrote:

> > > Keep some cash to make bail when you're stalking those "hotties",
> > > you're gonna need it!!

> > > On Nov 20, 4:53 pm, camaro man <camaroma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Well I'm over here on a 2003 XP machine, and that all there's going to
> > > > be. Even though it's a virus magnet, and a constant irritant of
> > > > locking up, can't be updated to even open up most things anymore (like
> > > > that Silverlight foolishness). What a piece of junk, but I'm not going
> > > > to squander any more money on any computers. Just bought a bunch of 35
> > > > year old Nikkors for my Nikkormat FTn. What I want more money to do is
> > > > to go chase AND CATCH those fine hotties with their skinny fine Paris
> > > > Hilton bodies. It takes a pile of money to get anywhere on a pursuit
> > > > like that.

> > > > On Nov 20, 4:31 pm, csullivan2000 <csullivan2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Personally, I'd spend that extra money and get a MBP for the big jump
> > > > > in speed and usability.  Just sold my 24" iMac (two years old and
> > > > > still fast as hell) because I've been drooling over the new 27".  I'm
> > > > > temporarily using a white macbook (waiting for Black Friday sale) and
> > > > > it barely does everything I'm used to.  The macbook is not bad, it's
> > > > > just that it can barely handle what I am used to having open:  about
> > > > > 40 browser windows open at all times along with iTunes, Mail, Skype,
> > > > > and Numbers...  I hardly ever close a window unless I am really done
> > > > > with whatever I was working on or reading.  I've become quite spoiled
> > > > > by how solid OSX is compared to Windows.  On MS Windows, I'd never
> > > > > have more than four windows open because I'd never remember what I was
> > > > > working on or hadn't finished when it would crash one or more times
> > > > > daily.  Ah, life is better on a Mac.  Sorry haters, couldn't help it.
> > > > > lol.

> > > > > On Nov 20, 4:06 pm, Mikhail <ponomare...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > These 'twice movements' are no more than occasional coincidence
> > > > > > you may notice AAPL and major indices last 3 months moving like
> > > > > > perfectly tuned money-making oscillator which going lower when options
> > > > > > expire
> > > > > > this can't last any longer imo

> > > > > > On Nov 20, 10:28 pm, camaro man <camaroma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Yeah JB, but I've noticed that AAPL does everything twice. It'll go to
> > > > > > > 220 for instance, then back to 200 or 195 or something and go to 220
> > > > > > > again. I kinda want it to go to 220 once without me, then let it go
> > > > > > > back to 200, then ride it on the second trip to 220, just to see if it
> > > > > > > can get there first. Whaddya think? Fact is, one of these days,
> > > > > > > there's gonna be one of those big long nasty "corrections", and I want
> > > > > > > no part of it.

> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 12:54 pm, JBMoney <bessl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Bigger Picture... This stock is trading down as hedgies do their best
> > > > > > > > to not get overly pounded on bad option plays. Most thought that last
> > > > > > > > minnie 6% market correction was going to go much further down and made
> > > > > > > > a lot of bets to that call. They were wrong and the market rebounded
> > > > > > > > and Apple has for the most part held this 200 dollar level. These
> > > > > > > > options expire and Apple is off to its next 20 gap up. I see 220 very
> > > > > > > > soon and higher by year end.

> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 12:47 pm, Trance_Emotion <tranc3mot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Funny how when this stock is down, 80% of the posters are gone.

> > > > > > > > > It doesn't matter, as long as he made money, he did well. People who
> > > > > > > > > invest should have a target of when they want to buy in, and when want
> > > > > > > > > to get out rather than just chasing the stock. I guess some of you
> > > > > > > > > guys have a target of $300 zzzzzzzz.

> > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 8:06 am, Eric <ricotetraz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Real easy to say after the fact how smart you were.  Let's see what
> > > > > > > > > > you think will happen in the NEXT week or month or two, so we can
> > > > > > > > > > judge your skills objectively.

> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 7:29 am, camaro man <camaroma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > I sold everything Monday or Tuesday--forgot which day, at 207.55. I
> > > > > > > > > > > can't believe once in my life, something went went really good. But
> > > > > > > > > > > boy, I sure lucked out on that one, huh? Wow. I wonder if this thing
> > > > > > > > > > > is gonna crash and burn to where I can come back in and buy the ashes
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