> > BTW, take a look at his bio on the Palm sitehttp://www.palm.com/us/company/management-team/rubinstein-jon.html
> > see if you can spot another indicator of Palm's lack of attention to
> > detail (hint: look hard at the 3rd and 4th paragraphs.)

> OK, I give.  What is it that I was unable to spot?

> On Nov 25, 4:21 pm, davidch14 <davidc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-mfgppl-moneyflow.html

> Tesco is a large supermarket that sells some white goods.

> Walmart is a huge store that sells everything.

> On Nov 25, 3:12 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/25/the-iphone-comes-to-tesco-%E2%80%...

> > Pretty significant distribution deal.

> Tesco is a large supermarket that sells some white goods.

> Walmart is a huge store that sells everything.

> On Nov 25, 3:12 pm, Calan <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/25/the-iphone-comes-to-tesco-%E2%80%...

> > Pretty significant distribution deal.

> I finally bought an iPhone last weekend and took a new contract with
> it. I then phoned my provider to cancel my old contract which I've had
> for 8 years. Without even telling them why they said, "I guess you've
> bought an iPhone".

> I find that fairly revealing and significant.

> Pretty significant distribution deal.

> Good point. Nevertheless, the US Gov't has taken care of you and your
> for nearly 30 years— you work for Uncle Sam, like it or not.

> On Nov 25, 8:36 am, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Again, I wade in reluctantly since this is supposed to be an investing
> > forum.  I would refer you to Thomas Sowell's excellent recent work
> > "Applied Economics" particularly the chapter that deals with the
> > Economics of Health Care.  Who is he? An African American economist,
> > former marxist, Harvard graduate, and has taught at Cornell & UCLA
> > among others.  His well reasoned analysis is far superior to any
> > health discussion here.  I must correct you on one very important
> > point concerning military service.  I did not entrust my life &
> > livlihood to the US Government.  I swore an oath to protect & defend
> > the Constitution of the US against all enemies foreign & domestic. The
> > constitution applies to all citizens, of all creeds, religions, and
> > colors.  I NEVER swore allegecne to the government.  That is what
> > distinguishes the US from many other contries, where the military
> > simply enables the particular government (disctator or party) to
> > remain in power.

> > On Nov 25, 11:14 am, Morning <morningem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Old,

> > > First off thank you for your years of service and I'm very sorry that
> > > the previous POTUS sent you and your fellow soldiers into elective war
> > > without the proper gear and no clear goal for victory.

> > > Now, to your experience with military healthcare: The VIPs get the
> > > best treatment? You might not get the best doctor? Occasional wrong
> > > diagnosis?

> > > Sounds a lot like the insurance my wife and I pay a fortune for.
> > > Perhaps on top of all those other difficulties you were experiencing
> > > you would have liked to paid in excess of $500 for the privlige?
> > > That's how much we pay for our health insurance.

> > > Now if you had wanted to, or if you ever want to, you are welcome to
> > > go out and obtain your own health insurance, which I'm sure you'll
> > > have no trouble affording on a soldier's salary. Moreover, perhaps
> > > it's best you begin to attend the tea-baggers rallies and demand the
> > > government out of the military healthcare business?

> > > If not, you may want to consider the fact that while it ain't great,
> > > it's the best we got and unless you got a better solution: Love it or
> > > Leave it. But private insurance companies aren't gonna do you know
> > > better. Likewise you may want to consider that as a soldier you would
> > > have extreme difficulty obtaining insurance under your beloved private
> > > healthcare system. After 29 years, you no doubt have pre-existing
> > > conditions and in the unlikely event you could actually obatain
> > > private insurance at your age, you'd likely be dropped as your care is
> > > too expensive.
> > > but hey, if it's what you want, go for it!

> > > Now, as to using our military healthcare as a "metric", I am not.
> > > Pleases note that the previous poster indicated that he supported the
> > > military "100%", I only pointed out that the military he so strongly
> > > supports has gov't-run healthcare. Do you disagree? How do you support
> > > something 110% and not support all of it? How can you claim total
> > > support for something, except the parts you don't like? It's idiotic.

> > > The poster, WAKE, indicated that he doesn't rust the government to run
> > > healthcare (ignoring the FACT that NO ONE is suggesting that), and I
> > > merely pointed out that him, like you, trust the gov't for the things
> > > of your choosing. You trust the government to build and maintain the
> > > most powerful military in the history of recorded civilization, but
> > > not to run an insurance plan? Please. Have you seen some of the
> > > companies running health insurance plans? You think they can do a
> > > better job than the most powerful military on the planet? (Moreover,
> > > if these were the Bush years, they'd call unpatriotic for suggesting
> > > such a thing)

> > > Old, you've entrusted your life and livelihood to the U.S. government
> > > for the past 29 years (thank you, again). I just think it's ironic
> > > that a man who was put his whole life in the government's hands wants
> > > to enter a discussion about not trusting the government.

> > > On Nov 25, 4:22 am, Oldtar <hsros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I have stayed out of this debate because it is supposed to be an
> > > > investing forum.  However, having spent 29 years on active duty in the
> > > > USN, I must respond to Mornings post.  I also have been treated at
> > > > Bethesda and many other Navy military medical institutions.  While
> > > > what you cite is true, it is abnormal for the military system. If you
> > > > ar POTUS, senator or congressman, you get the premier service that is
> > > > NOT AVAILABLE to the rest of the military. The normal Tar (that is
> > > > slang for sailor) has to wait in line.  Remember the military's mantra
> > > > is "hurry up and wait".  You might or might not get the best physician
> > > > or you might get the Ft Hood equivalent.  You might or might not get
> > > > the right diagnosis (often not), and usually be told to get back on
> > > > the deckplates, back to work ASAP.  So don't use military care as your
> > > > metric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > On Nov 25, 2:12 am, Morning <morningem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Got,

> > > > > Yes, I'm quite sure I want to inject the military's healthcare system
> > > > > into the conversation. While there may be a few horror stories here
> > > > > and there, by and large the military's health system is exceptional.
> > > > > Not only do they treat the President of the United States of America,
> > > > > they treat the VP, 535 congressmen, and 100 US senators.

> > > > > A short list of whom would include the following:

> > > > > Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who warned that "a
> > > > > government takeover of health care" would "take away the care that
> > > > > people already have [and] are perfectly satisfied with." In its place,
> > > > > the senator said, would be "a system in which care and treatment will
> > > > > be either delayed or denied."

> > > > > That was July 2009. In February 2003, McConnell actually went to one
> > > > > of those government-run institutions (where treatment is, apparently,
> > > > > "either delayed or denied" ) for a procedure of his own. The Kentucky
> > > > > Republican traveled to the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda,
> > > > > Maryland, to have an elective coronary artery bypass surgery after it
> > > > > had been revealed that he had arterial blockages.

> > > > > Also known as Bethesda Naval Hospital, the National Naval Medical
> > > > > Center is the premier branch of the United States Navy's system of
> > > > > medical centers -- as in, the government runs it. Indeed, members of
> > > > > Congress pay an annual fee for the privilege of getting treatment at
> > > > > Bethesda Naval Hospital or, for that matter, Walter Reed Army Medical
> > > > > Center. It is, as longtime Democrat Martin Frost wrote for Politico,
> > > > > "like belonging to an HMO." Only, in these cases, the surgery is
> > > > > conducted at a public facility.

> > > > > None of this has stopped some of the same officials who have taken
> > > > > advantage of this congressional perk from railing against the
> > > > > intrusiveness and inefficiencies of a health care system with greater
> > > > > government involvement

> > > > > Senator John McCain, (R-Ariz.) for instance, recently applauded the
> > > > > town hall protesters who were, in his words, revolting "against a
> > > > > government-run health system." That was August 2009. In May of 2000,
> > > > > McCain had surgery at the Bethesda Naval Hospital to remove a
> > > > > potentially lethal melanoma from his left temple.

> > > > > Senator Kit Bond (R-Mo.), meanwhile, has warned of the rationing of
> > > > > care, expensive costs, and reduced quality that would come under a
> > > > > government-run health care plan. In April 2003, however, he traveled
> > > > > to Bethesda Naval Hospital to undergo hip replacement surgery in an
> > > > > attempt to alleviate degenerative arthritis in his left hip.

> > > > > Senator George Voinovich, (R-Ohio), has declared that a "bureaucratic
> > > > > Washington-run government plan is not the answer" to the nation's
> > > > > health care needs. In June 2003, the Ohio Republican (who is retiring
> > > > > from the Senate in 2010) went to Bethesda Naval Hospital to have a
> > > > > pacemaker installed.

> > > > > The best