> Well thank you Mr. Wizard for that groundbreaking information.

> On Nov 20, 5:10 pm, tom-jefferson <sam.jones.1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > all financials aside.. the market does whatever it wants to
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> A Freedom pilot jumpseated with us back to CVG this afternoon.  He
> told me he was being furloughed next month and they received an email
> memo today from Mesa indicating additional furloughs.  I forgot
> exactly the number he told me but he did say that it was half the
> pilot list.

> In addition, Comair just canceled their Jan 1 furloughs and are
> recalling some pilots that were furloughed Nov 1.  As well, a new
> vacancy bid came out to move pilots from JFK back to CVG.

> What does this all mean?  Additional flying in CVG for Comair.  Why?
> Best speculation is Delta is preparing for Mesa's BK filing very
> shortly, in which case their contract will be immediately terminated -
> courts can't prevent this one.

> all financials aside.. the market does whatever it wants to
> do..

> What do you consider good?  And how long do you think it will take for
> the MESA stock to go back up to $.30?

> I see the biggest problem for MESA is long term not any particuliar
> quarter.

> They are running out of possible partners.  They are going to have a
> lot of aircraft sitting around.  Hawaii is not going well.

> So what if Monday has good results.  Will they still be in business a
> year from now?

> On Nov 20, 10:38 am, goeroe <beursgoer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > the results monday will be very good !!!

> > mesa will go back to 0,30 $ !
> > and mesa will win the court against DELTA! than MESA WILL BE 1 $ !!!!
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> What do you consider good?  And how long do you think it will take for
> the MESA stock to go back up to $.30?

> I see the biggest problem for MESA is long term not any particuliar
> quarter.

> They are running out of possible partners.  They are going to have a
> lot of aircraft sitting around.  Hawaii is not going well.

> So what if Monday has good results.  Will they still be in business a
> year from now?

> On Nov 20, 10:38 am, goeroe <beursgoer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > the results monday will be very good !!!

> > mesa will go back to 0,30 $ !
> > and mesa will win the court against DELTA! than MESA WILL BE 1 $ !!!!
> > the court aginst delta is coming !

> the results monday will be very good !!!

> mesa will go back to 0,30 $ !
> and mesa will win the court against DELTA! than MESA WILL BE 1 $ !!!!
> the court aginst delta is coming !

> If you believe the title then you need to be taken out back and be put
> out of our misery.  XJT just won the RFP with United to pick up Mesa's
> flying.  Once again i will tell you delusional few to read the annual
> report and see what is says will happen when they lose the united
> flying.

> If your trading this thing quickly on the penny swings i would warn
> you to be careful. When this thing goes TU you do not want to be left
> holding any shares

randad wrote:
> i hear ya zhou,  the fibertower is tradable.  looks like a retest of
> low on dptr at .89, have to be careful if it breaks bad below that
> level but any good news on reserve replacement and that one can be a
> real winner.  i never hold it long, mostly a daytrade.  the shippers
> have been great.  gnk,nm,dsx,exm,drys and the little super popper--
> ocnf but that one is kinda dangerous with similar debt problems as
> mesa but can rock with the sector.  a little unknown shipper that
> ipo'd over a year ago that can attract institutional money is sb,
> safebulkers, might be a long term winner.  been in these shippers off
> and on for long time but have to tip my hat to cramer this evening for
> finally starting cheerlead for them.  but anyway, good luck to all.

> On Nov 17, 2:44 pm, Zhou Nasen <casoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Im also in DPTR randad ;)

> > Looking to load up a SHITLOAD more on FTWR though, as soon as I feel
> > we've bottomed out, which doesn't likely seem to be right now.

> > too bad for those who preferred to follow the GLUT as opposed to our
> > GUTS with MESA.

> > Cheers~~

> > On Nov 17, 3:03 pm, randooch <rand...@cmspan.net> wrote:

> > > thoughtful commentary appreciated, randad.  i don't possess your
> > > acumen, though, (no idea what you mean by "tna" and "tza" for
> > > instance),  and i still suspect that this stock is being manipulated,
> > > especially when i notice trades of 100 shares at a time.  what also
> > > bothers me is the assumption that mesa will go bankrupt.  if it's 99%
> > > sure, then why is the company still bothering to try to negotiate new
> > > contracts, etc?

> > > i already made more on earlier trades of mesa than i am down now, so
> > > i'm holding on for that unlikely good news scenario.  tempting to dump
> > > now and take my lumps, but i'm not so good at that.

> > > On Nov 17, 5:32 am, randad <rmvik...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > good luck randooch.  i kinda look at it with a risk/reward framework.
> > > > the risk level is too high.  too many other trading opportunities out
> > > > there that don't have a 99% chance of bk.  i would move on to greener
> > > > pastures.  sometimes its just not worth the risk.  you can write the
> > > > loss against gains achieved going into the end of year.  the low
> > > > quality rally is fading into higher quality but small caps will still
> > > > work well.  in up market like this the tna is 3x leveraged russell
> > > > 2000 rocketship,  great way to get gains with no risk of bk.  when
> > > > market gets hammered for few days the tna is great trade.  if your
> > > > really good you can use tza to short 3x levered.  good luck and its
> > > > jus me but i would sell this mesa loser nine ways to sunday and
> > > > reallocate capital.  there is no way mesa can manage their debt
> > > > outside bk IMO

> > > > On Nov 16, 2:38 pm, randooch <rand...@cmspan.net> wrote:

> > > > > Gary, me too:  upside down on - luckily-  only 10k shares.  I'm
> > > > > willing to wait for a possible hail-mary type resurrection, maybe
> > > > > they'll pull a surprise joint-venture out of their hat.  I'm still
> > > > > tempted to average down, but I know what randad and irishpilot would
> > > > > say:  throwing good money after bad.  they may be right, so I haven't
> > > > > done it.  glutamine (anagram of "emulating") might high-five me,
> > > > > but . . .  What to do, what to do.

> > > > > On Nov 16, 10:21 am, "Gary H." <gchosk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > randad your really are human, you actually said thank you.

> > > > > > Putting the pun aside you were correct on dptr - good call, it took
> > > > > > off this morning.  Thanks.

> > > > > > Way upside down on Mesa (90k shares) - can't really sell until this
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> balljuggler?  its going down cuz its a big turd being swirled down the
> toilet.  pull your pants up and walk away from this one.  its a matter
> of months before they restructure debt in bankruptcy IMO,  you can
> hang on to it like a big dingleberry but you are a dum asss to do so
> IMO.  cheers

> On Nov 17, 7:52 pm, chemistfrog <chemistf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Expressjet just filled Mesa's niche with United.....  There goes
> > Mesa's chance at getting that contract back.  Maybe now Mesa can focus
> > on contracts elsewhere since they have this behind them as of April.

> > GLTA Mesa!!

> > Steve

> >http://industry.bnet.com/travel/10004116/expressjet-to-fill-the-50-se...

> > On Nov 17, 11:24 am, baljinder <baljindersid...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Expressjet just filled Mesa's niche with United.....  There goes
> Mesa's chance at getting that contract back.  Maybe now Mesa can focus
> on contracts elsewhere since they have this behind them as of April.

> GLTA Mesa!!

> Steve

> http://industry.bnet.com/travel/10004116/expressjet-to-fill-the-50-se...

> On Nov 17, 11:24 am, baljinder <baljindersid...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Im also in DPTR randad ;)

> Looking to load up a SHITLOAD more on FTWR though, as soon as I feel
> we've bottomed out, which doesn't likely seem to be right now.

> too bad for those who preferred to follow the GLUT as opposed to our
> GUTS with MESA.

> Cheers~~

> On Nov 17, 3:03 pm, randooch <rand...@cmspan.net> wrote:

> > thoughtful commentary appreciated, randad.  i don't possess your
> > acumen, though, (no idea what you mean by "tna" and "tza" for
> > instance),  and i still suspect that this stock is being manipulated,
> > especially when i notice trades of 100 shares at a time.  what also
> > bothers me is the assumption that mesa will go bankrupt.  if it's 99%
> > sure, then why is the company still bothering to try to negotiate new
> > contracts, etc?

> > i already made more on earlier trades of mesa than i am down now, so
> > i'm holding on for that unlikely good news scenario.  tempting to dump
> > now and take my lumps, but i'm not so good at that.

> > On Nov 17, 5:32 am, randad <rmvik...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > good luck randooch.  i kinda look at it with a risk/reward framework.
> > > the risk level is too high.  too many other trading opportunities out
> > > there that don't have a 99% chance of bk.  i would move on to greener
> > > pastures.  sometimes its just not worth the risk.  you can write the
> > > loss against gains achieved going into the end of year.  the low
> > > quality rally is fading into higher quality but small caps will still
> > > work well.  in up market like this the tna is 3x leveraged russell
> > > 2000 rocketship,  great way to get gains with no risk of bk.  when
> > > market gets hammered for few days the tna is great trade.  if your
> > > really good you can use tza to short 3x levered.  good luck and its
> > > jus me but i would sell this mesa loser nine ways to sunday and
> > > reallocate capital.  there is no way mesa can manage their debt
> > > outside bk IMO

> > > On Nov 16, 2:38 pm, randooch <rand...@cmspan.net> wrote:

> > > > Gary, me too:  upside down on - luckily-  only 10k shares.  I'm
> > > > willing to wait for a possible hail-mary type resurrection, maybe
> > > > they'll pull a surprise joint-venture out of their hat.  I'm still
> > > > tempted to average down, but I know what randad and irishpilot would
> > > > say:  throwing good money after bad.  they may be right, so I haven't
> > > > done it.  glutamine (anagram of "emulating") might high-five me,
> > > > but . . .  What to do, what to do.

> > > > On Nov 16, 10:21 am, "Gary H." <gchosk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > randad your really are human, you actually said thank you.

> > > > > Putting the pun aside you were correct on dptr - good call, it took
> > > > > off this morning.  Thanks.

> > > > > Way upside down on Mesa (90k shares) - can't really sell until this
> > > > > turns around...- Hide quoted text -

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