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sag1...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Nov 10 2008, 3:50 pm
From: sag1...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:50:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 10 2008 3:50 pm
Subject: Looking for Opinions
Hey, I'm looking for other's opinions on this stock. I think $13 would
be a good exit point if you bought in below $13, and $10-$11 range is
a good entrance range. Just trying to guess what is going to happen
this week. What do you think?

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joepilo...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 10 2008, 8:44 pm
From: joepilo...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:44:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 10 2008 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
I am in at 12.60 my buddy got in at 12.00. The co. had a good quarter.
I listened to the confrence call and I think next quarter will be ok.
They are making most money on the diesel. They dont have to make
ashphalt unless requested. All there projects are completed including
the cokers wich other co.s have had to cut back or cancel. A higher
oil price will help I think that is coming soon. I should have gotten
in a 9  I almost pulled the trig and sat around waiting for it to drop
again but it never happend.

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grha...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 11 2008, 9:01 am
From: grha...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:01:52 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 11 2008 9:01 am
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
I think we will hopefully see a dip (hopefully on my part anyway)
today.  I was in at 9.30 and out at 10.40, then in again at 10.06.
Unfortunately, my conditions hit 12.25 after a peak of 13.xx, and my
shares were sold.  I can't watch it constantly.  Thus the problem we
have seen with this stock over the past few weeks.  Big fluctuations
in daily prices, so that if you have your exits already set, you might
get out on a dip.  I am currently out for spec., but I have about 1000
shares long for 3 years now.  Two splits, plus dividends, not bad.  I
am hoping toget back in when we have a dip.

Another note is that the chart for this stock is so similar to
everything else out there,with the huge decline starting in
September.  They are all going to go back up for sure, but for now,
the flux can be played.


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joepilo...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 11 2008, 11:07 am
From: joepilo...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:07:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 11 2008 11:07 am
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
Yeah it is hard to set limits on. I may buy more today. It shows good
resistance on these bad days. and pops nicely on good days.
I will go long when overall things shape up, but dont want to attempt
timing that.

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sag1...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Nov 11 2008, 1:27 pm
From: sag1...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:27:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 11 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
I had a position in at about $9, and I jumped out yesterday afternoon
when it went back to $13. I'm hoping my guess work is right in that
it'll drop to the $10-$11 range in the next couple of days, I'll be
sitting on the sidelines till then.

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Piotr Wianecki  
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 More options Nov 11 2008, 5:39 pm
From: Piotr Wianecki <pwiane...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:39:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
lower oil prices are better for FTO, not higher oil prices...


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joepilo...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 14 2008, 5:20 am
From: joepilo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:20:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 14 2008 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
Well Sag you had your shot in the high 10.00 area did you pull the
trigger?
I was itching for more around 11.00 but was on the road with clients
all day.
Snooze you loose

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joepilo...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 14 2008, 5:27 am
From: joepilo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:27:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 14 2008 5:27 am
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
Oil has to come up to 65.00 to 80.00 per barrel. That shows demand for
crude products and increases
the crack spread on Gasoline. because the gas price rises higher.
Most money is made on Diesel the spread is higher,
At least that is what I understood from the CEO.
Correct me if i am wrong.

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Piotr Wianecki  
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 More options Nov 14 2008, 2:06 pm
From: Piotr Wianecki <pwiane...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:06:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 14 2008 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
Crack spreads actually usually increase more when oil prices fall due
to "sticky" pricing. In general lower oil prices are better for
refiners since it gives them more room to hike gasoline prices.

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sag1...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Nov 14 2008, 2:43 pm
From: sag1...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:43:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 14 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for Opinions
I did buy more, I had a trigger set at $10.55 got a couple hundred
shares, and I'm waiting for $13.55.

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