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From: endogenousbab...@earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 9:52 am
Subject: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Bear Sterns (non-bank) shareholders are getting special protection
from the credit crunch... when there are millions of shareholders in hundreds of other non-bank lenders who have already taken the hit personally themselves. Who is and who isn't ging to benefit/hurt from goverment
The Fed/Treasury should be issuing debt and buying the MBS to create a
What is Up and what is Down?
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From: SpotversusFutu...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:00:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:00 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
I just made 40,000usd with 2000 shares short.
I shorted this one at the high from the 400 rally, I just closed this
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From: endogenousbab...@earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:01 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: johnbarr...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:43:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:43 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
It's all about the money and who you donated to...they could get a
bail out...lets see what happens. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: tammend...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:45 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: Ishmael Rufus <sakam...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:47 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: meetskitt...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:54 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: tech...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 10:57 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
All that happened is Bear got a leg up on everyone else by getting JP
to go to the discount window. This is good for them. Get ready for a rebound!!! You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: jonreynold...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:05 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: Iceburg <bu...@feedthebull.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:06 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Sounds like JPMorgan could be buying them outright according to this
article. http://www.feedthebull.com/content/jpmorgan-chase-federal-reserve-ban...
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From: luth...@earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:19 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: JHM...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:41 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: artgoldb...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:01 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
great trade;
not surprising that BS's troubled, given that failures in its SIV were harbingers of this mess. of course, now that the fed's propping them up (via JPM) they might survive for a while but there's still loads of leverage out there, e.g., see Carlyle at 30:1 question is, who's going to be swamped by margin calls next? BR You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: KUDU...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
JPMorgan Chase -- which has been hurt far less by the mortgage morass
than other investment banks -- is providing secured funding to Bear Stearns for 28 days. This is good enough to distribute bonus/ pension and all to be paid to the top officers leaving,or fired within 28 days from now. They secured their departure pay from fed. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Mark.Lar...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
What I can't wrap my head around is that to work for this bank as an
executive you need an MBA from a top 20 school. With that much intellectual capital, couldn't they see this happen. I agree with KUDU that the fed is financing the departures of the top On another note, this bank will be taken over. I'll consider it around You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: wsi...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Geez.
What was Wilmington Trust thinking --holding 27.3 million shares? You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: bon...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:31:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
KUDU...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, if there's any evidence of that, they'll go directly to
> JPMorgan Chase -- which has been hurt far less by the mortgage morass > than other investment banks -- is providing secured funding to Bear > Stearns for 28 days. This is good enough to distribute bonus/ pension > and all to be paid to the top officers leaving,or fired within 28 days > from now. > They secured their departure pay from fed.
jail. Personally, and I know it's risky, but I like taking risks, I think
Looking at what actually happened:
Two things that should be good for them have turned really sour.
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From: Iceburg <bu...@feedthebull.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:43:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Here is another article on the Bear Stearns bail out.
http://www.feedthebull.com/content/bear-sterns-bail-out-barrons
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From: johann.schweik...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Don't forget that it is in the businesses best intrest to keep a
positive outlook even if it isn't so rosy. The CEO saying that they should meet the estimate means very little when they said on Monday that there weren't having any financial worries. Lies float and sink the boat. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: vmendo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Sold short @ $65, covered short @ $35.
One mans food is another mans poison. thank you Bear Sterns, it was nice knowing you..
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From: hegde.girid...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
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From: endogenousbab...@earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Either A:
It's all so screwed up internally that Schwartz didn't know what was going (even when others on the street did)... and so spoke ignorantly in response to the leaked info... not very confidence inspiring to say the least, and huge amount of uncertianty for the markets. Or B: Schwartz intentionally lied to try to keep the boat from taking
Either way... run for the hills. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: flyingdill...@excite.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
"It is very vulgar to talk about one's business . . .only
stockbrokers do that, and it's merely at dinner parties" -Oscar Wilde Seriously though, congrats You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: vmendo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 14 2008 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
I dont think BSC were facing the kind of liquidity problenms that its
being made out to be, its a rumor mill that has killed them, and in this market every financial whether good or bad will get slaughtered, stay away from the financials for this whole year unless you want to short the stocks. April is reporting time and look out for more mayhem.. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: endogenousbab...@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 8:55 am
Subject: Re: The Fix is in at BSC... but it's BS!
Looks like I was wrong about special protection for shareholder... the
FED helped slaughter these guys. $159 to $2 in less than 11 months... what is that?... it's almost
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