|
|
| Discussions for VMWARE INC | View all discussions |
|
| Crazy prices | ||
| All 11 messages in discussion - 10 new - | ||
From: napatra...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:53:29 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 1:53 pm
Subject: Crazy prices
VMW's 335 million shares had an EPS of $0.26 last year. If their net
income this year was equal to revenue last year it would still put it at a P/E of 27+ at current prices. If VMW is really worth $55/share then VMW's $18B is half of EMC's $40B valuation. Either EMC is severely undervalued or $55 for VMW is way too high. $15 for VMW is a deal, $29 is more than fair to the shareholders of EMC, $55 is way overpriced. EMC did the right thing for shareholders to price VMW at $29. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: mr.dcmil...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:56:42 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
you might think that its overpriced and thats why you can sit on the
sidelines when we make all the money, VMW is trading at 55 based on future growth, we dealt with the same thing when google came around and bidu, bidu p/e was like 200 at one point look where its at now, so to you its overvalued and to me its a value investment You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: navid.raste...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:10:29 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
you both have solid points. But the most important part is that the
company can control their stock price with future splits to bring the P/E down to make it more appealing for high growth and more investors. There are so many aspects you have to look at with an IPO. Right now like Mr. DcMil had mentioned. its trading at 55 because that is what it is worth today. like they say buy and hold. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: milinds...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:22:16 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
yes..both solid points..I would also consider the overall market
situation. Right now, even the strong companies are not moving forward...either they are going down or holding their prices somehow...tech has very less to do with subprime mortgages..still, that is affecting the market overall (and also world economy)...I would say, better be careful then spending everything...I think VMW at this price is not for short...you can buy and hold for a long time..if market improves, it will be rewarded for sure...just a thought !!! You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: lehr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:26:23 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
Whoa that is simply incorrect Navid -- To be clear, splitting your
stock does nothing to change the P/E ratio of a business. As an example, if a stock is trading at 100 and the EPS for the company is $5 that year, then its P/E ratio is 20, i.e. the price of the business is 20X the earnings of the business. Now, assume there are 100 million shares outstanding for that same Lesson: companies cannot control their P/E ratio by splitting stock; You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: hubbar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:41:16 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
santa...@aol.com wrote: How can you safely compare VMW and GOOG? The reason Google was so > you might think that its overpriced and thats why you can sit on the > sidelines when we make all the money, VMW is trading at 55 based on > future growth, we dealt with the same thing when google came around > and bidu, bidu p/e was like 200 at one point look where its at now, so > to you its overvalued and to me its a value investment successful was because it did have a lot of potential growth by its wide range of products and services it has (although ads is its main money maker, people hope that another one of Google's services will catch on, hence Google's high price). VMW on the other hand ONLY MAKES VIRTUALIZATION SOFTWARE. Their potential for growth is no where near that of Google's. You won't see VMW working with phone companies and bidding on wireless airwaves. Yes, the news is correct reporting this as one of the biggest IPO's since Google's, but that is not saying VMWare will be anywhere near as successful as Google. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: navid.raste...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:45:01 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: Chandrachood Ramkumar <chandracho...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:49:08 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
P/E remains same with stock splits.
Example: Company X Scenario I - Shares outstanding = 1000 Scenario II - After 2:1 stock split In fact, since the price 'looks' cheaper or rather attractive I would You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: hubbar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:58:48 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
navid.raste...@gmail.com wrote: I dunno, because they want to have a say in the direction of the > then tell me why Intel and Cisco have been companies that have > invested into this company? company? There are many possible reasons for them to invest, but companies like Intel and Cisco don't invest for the same reasons you and I invest for. Intel's and Cisco's stockholders would be very angry if they changed their buisness model from doing what they do to investing in the stock market. INTL and CSCO are not hoping to catch the next GOOG that will allow them to retire early though, that is for sure. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: jeff.tollef...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:53:36 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: Crazy prices
Cisco and Intel have invested in the company for the same reason that
Microsoft has created an entire group to compete with VMWare. Not only is the company well run and profitable, but they own the market space. As to the growth of the market space, understanding the product and the issues that IT faces with software releases, the future looks very bright indeed. Personally, I think VMW is a steal at $55... and as opposed to Google You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
| End of messages |
| « Newer discussion - Let me be the first | No older discussions |
| Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |
©2010 Google