|
|
| Discussions for Washington Mutual Inc. | View all discussions |
|
| My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome. | ||
| All 22 messages in discussion - | ||
From: dspence...@verizon.net
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:49:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 3:49 pm
Subject: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
I usually don't start threads, and I only occaisonally comment.
However, the documents in the bankruptcy proceeding has all my feathers in a ruffle. I thought I would email some newspapers with the following letter. I appreciate any comments or criticism. I'm also open to any suggestions about potential destinations of my letter (if any). Well here goes... All We Have to Fear
The collapse of Washington Mutual has been labeled as the biggest
You may have asked yourself why the market would crash after the
Trust also suffered a serious blow when the FDIC overstepped its
OBJECTION OF THE WMB NOTEHOLDER GROUP TO MOTION OF DEBTORS
"Although it has been termed the largest thrift 'failure' in
They continue to assert that the OTS was afraid (oops here we go with
The aftermath should have been expected. People with more money than
By Dale Spencer
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:59:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: thinhd...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: pierre_kan...@cibcmellon.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:14:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: volensae...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:24:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: gioborgh...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
A key piece of information in this puzzle is the amount of uninsured
deposits that WaMu held. I read somewhere that the average deposit held $500-$700. I just have a hunch that the $16B transferred prior to the seizure was pretty much all the un-insured money. In that case, FDIC had no case for the seizure. On a more general note, in no other civilized country in the world the
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: ChefMe...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
Dale you letter is well written and try sending to
billvir...@seattlepi.com. He is the reporter that first published the article of WA State Senator Maria Cantwell's interest in the OTS and FDIC seizure of WaMu.......Also I would suggest sending your letter copy to Senator Cantwell = http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/ Very good job in expressing the thoughts of many of us WaMu shareholders that have been wiped out to date but am holding and hoping for some justice.... Lawrence Meany
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: socal...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
Question about the $16B transferred prior to 5 days before the
seizure. What kind of people have that kind of money ? Isn't that JPM and subs. did these ? WaMu holders will like to know. Did the Naked Short ever cover ? Who was the biggest Naked Short ? You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: ann1...@peoplepc.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
chefme... do you think wamu has a chance to get out of bankruptcy and
continue the business after the bailouts takes effect? Is there any chance for shareholders to get something other than selling for 5-7 cents at the moment?, please explain, thanks You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: jl.beni...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:51:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
I live in Europe and I'm WaMu shareolder... notices of WaMu don't
exist here and the news that I can read from US aren't good news. I hope that all shareolders will know the truth. I only have faith. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: jbyr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/21/america.poll/index.html?eref=r...
Fear is what all powerful people use on there people.. Just like
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: Alhenriq...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
Excellent article and you are correct in your statement that this
investigation is nothing more than a horse and pony show. Do we know who it was that with drew the 16B and during what period in time? If JPM was pre notified of the intent to have WaMu shut down would this not contitute a violation similar to insider trading? In addition to all the negative news and article pre crash no where can I find exact figures in dollars and cents of the amount of loans in default held by the bank? As a percentage of deposites, assets and other funds held by WaMu what was the number. Mortages and loans are secured by propery over a period in time, 15-30 years so it is safe to say that during this time frame most of these properties would eventually regain and re-appreciate to a positive equity. If this is the case then why would the FDIC deem the bank to be under capitalized? Can some one please help me understand how do you steal a banks good assets and leave the so called bad assets hanging for the tax payer to pick up the tab. AH
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:26:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
I love your take and analysis on the seizure.
However, I think its important to stress that it's not too late for
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: OpnS...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
Would it be possible to also to modify this letter slightly and send
it to Judge Wallrath. I truly believe that she has been handed "a once in a lifetime opportunity" to make history by restoring the the faith and confidence in America - of wmi shareholders and indeed all investors in America. With your rullings, she will show the markets that the constitution and governing laws do in fact exist, and that there is a system of checks and balances that can overturn injustices - even when conducted by our own government. This is an excellent article, I do hope that you will consider sending
Thank you for your efforts on behalf of all shareholders.
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: mike <michael.rozenf...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
OPnS please do so and send it in. A letter like this needs to be added
to the public record. Don't hope someone else does it. Do it yourself. I would do it but I'm already up there. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: jsksto...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:30:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
TWS, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send everything you have compiled in a
cohesive format in a letter to judge Walrath. Really, right now, she is the person who had the most influence on all of this..... I look foward to seeing your letter on the document filing list....... You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: justice...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
Wow, excellent write-up Dale, thank you! I plan on forwarding it to
as many media and government officials as I can. I suggest that everyone write letters, there's plenty already written in these forums that you can copy from... don't send one or two, send MANY! WAMU Shareholders got stepped on. Don't sit there and let it happen
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: dspence...@verizon.net
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
I appreciate all your comments. I intend to spend some time tomorrow
researching logical recepients and their contact information. Thank you for the suggestions so far. The list for revisions include the following:
1.) October 28th, 2008 should be changed to October 20th, 2008
I will continue to update on this thread as I progress. Please
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: shareholder...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:28:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
If you find this useful:
60 Minutes
EMAIL: 6...@cbsnews.com
PHONE: (212) 975-3247
Also to WCBS
Charles Osgood
There are fact sheet and letters on JPM and wamuq message boards
Some of my points to open:
We believe that in America, we are given the basic right to commerce,
However, never, under the American system, a private citizen should be
FDIC took over WaMu's historically large asset, more than $300B, and
(Stories and facts below)
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: dspence...@verizon.net
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:08:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
I have made the following changes to incorporate some of the feedback
suggested. I have also included a first draft of a letter that could be sent to Judge Wallrath. Please continue with the excellent feedback. The last paragraph has been changed to:
The aftermath should have been expected. People with more money than
[FIRST DRAFT TO THE JUDGE]
Dear Judge Wallrath,
I'm writting you on behalf of the common and preferred shareholders of
Thank You. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
From: jsksto...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: My Rant about the FDIC. Comments welcome.
There is a great article posted on another thread:
For all who don't want to read the article, the main points are: 1: The law is clear (tested in court cases) that FDIC does not have the authority to use capital invested in the non-banking subsidiaries of a bank holding company in order to defray the expected costs of bank failure. This means the FDIC has no claim on any of WMI's assets for sure. This also means the the WMB noteholders have no claim on WMI assets either, as those are bank division claims. 2. The FDIC cannot exercise its authority until the subsidiary bank
WRITE A LETTER TO JUDGE WALRATH, SHE IS THE MOST INFLUENCIAL PERSON TO
To hell with the penny traders let them try to make a 30% profit, hold
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-7979553/Are-bank-holding-comp...
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
| ||||||||||||||
| End of messages |
| « Newer discussion - BK hearings | BK11 under FDIC is different. - Older discussion » |
| Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |
©2012 Google