> 3x damages could be a hefty fine. WMI should have been sold for 26
> Billion, since the FDIC still hasn't givin Washington Mutual the 1.9
> Billion that JPM "paid" for it, how do we even know it was even a sale
> and not a ill-gotten "Gift".

> 3x Damages should be awarded for the full amount IMO. Make the FDIC
> pay 76 Billion and make JPM make good on all the banks bonds.

> If that happens we should see a very significant amount of capital
> coming down to the UQ's. Subtract the 11.8 Billion in prefer-eds and
> debt and we are left with 64.2 Billion for commons.

> That would = 37.76$ which I believe is an absolute CRAZY figure. IMO
> we will NEVER see that figure in a settlement but if this case drags
> on into the discovery trials I believe it would be a possible figure.

> IMO we will likely see a settlement in the 8-16$ range since it would
> potentially save JPM a ton of money in the longer run, of course I
> think JPM is just trying to mess around and delay the payment for as
> long as possible.

> Do you really think that sometime in the near future that there will
> be a settlement and it would be between 8-16 $ range?  If so when will
> that happen.  THere hasnt een much activity recently.  Hopefully it
> gets better.

> On Nov 8, 9:32 am, kodama <chichi...@ymail.com> wrote:

> > 3x damages could be a hefty fine. WMI should have been sold for 26
> > Billion, since the FDIC still hasn't givin Washington Mutual the 1.9
> > Billion that JPM "paid" for it, how do we even know it was even a sale
> > and not a ill-gotten "Gift".

> > 3x Damages should be awarded for the full amount IMO. Make the FDIC
> > pay 76 Billion and make JPM make good on all the banks bonds.

> > If that happens we should see a very significant amount of capital
> > coming down to the UQ's. Subtract the 11.8 Billion in prefer-eds and
> > debt and we are left with 64.2 Billion for commons.

> > That would = 37.76$ which I believe is an absolute CRAZY figure. IMO
> > we will NEVER see that figure in a settlement but if this case drags
> > on into the discovery trials I believe it would be a possible figure.

> > IMO we will likely see a settlement in the 8-16$ range since it would
> > potentially save JPM a ton of money in the longer run, of course I
> > think JPM is just trying to mess around and delay the payment for as
> > long as possible.- Hide quoted text -

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> I have a question also.  Would it be safe to say that we would know
> that JPM is going to pay out by them buying all the remaining Wamu
> stocks avail?  I mean it only make sense to buy them all, settle, have
> stock go up, and sell for profit to re-coop money back?  IMO, that
> would be the marker for settlement.  That is a strategy I would use if
> I knew I was being sued and could possibly lose.  Can anyone feedback
> if I am way off the soap box?  I am in for the long term and have not
> heard much lately.

> On Nov 9, 12:10 pm, CP <chris.pali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Do you really think that sometime in the near future that there will
> > be a settlement and it would be between 8-16 $ range?  If so when will
> > that happen.  THere hasnt een much activity recently.  Hopefully it
> > gets better.

> > On Nov 8, 9:32 am, kodama <chichi...@ymail.com> wrote:

> > > 3x damages could be a hefty fine. WMI should have been sold for 26
> > > Billion, since the FDIC still hasn't givin Washington Mutual the 1.9
> > > Billion that JPM "paid" for it, how do we even know it was even a sale
> > > and not a ill-gotten "Gift".

> > > 3x Damages should be awarded for the full amount IMO. Make the FDIC
> > > pay 76 Billion and make JPM make good on all the banks bonds.

> > > If that happens we should see a very significant amount of capital
> > > coming down to the UQ's. Subtract the 11.8 Billion in prefer-eds and
> > > debt and we are left with 64.2 Billion for commons.

> > > That would = 37.76$ which I believe is an absolute CRAZY figure. IMO
> > > we will NEVER see that figure in a settlement but if this case drags
> > > on into the discovery trials I believe it would be a possible figure.

> > > IMO we will likely see a settlement in the 8-16$ range since it would
> > > potentially save JPM a ton of money in the longer run, of course I
> > > think JPM is just trying to mess around and delay the payment for as
> > > long as possible.- Hide quoted text -

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> Jeff,

> By court order, no one entity is allowed to own more than 4% of the
> total float of WMI securities without stating their ownership to (or
> asking permission to buy from) the court.  This order is in place to
> protect the current ownership structure of WMI, and therefore WMI's
> valuable NOL tax benefits.  This is also our best hope of common
> shares remaining intact throughout this ordeal.  If commons go away,
> then WMI's "ownership" has changed, and the NOLs (all $20 billion of
> them) go away also.  Hope that makes some sense!

> On Nov 10, 2:10 pm, jeffdodson <jeffreydod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I have a question also.  Would it be safe to say that we would know
> > that JPM is going to pay out by them buying all the remaining Wamu
> > stocks avail?  I mean it only make sense to buy them all, settle, have
> > stock go up, and sell for profit to re-coop money back?  IMO, that
> > would be the marker for settlement.  That is a strategy I would use if
> > I knew I was being sued and could possibly lose.  Can anyone feedback
> > if I am way off the soap box?  I am in for the long term and have not
> > heard much lately.

> > On Nov 9, 12:10 pm, CP <chris.pali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Do you really think that sometime in the near future that there will
> > > be a settlement and it would be between 8-16 $ range?  If so when will
> > > that happen.  THere hasnt een much activity recently.  Hopefully it
> > > gets better.

> > > On Nov 8, 9:32 am, kodama <chichi...@ymail.com> wrote:

> > > > 3x damages could be a hefty fine. WMI should have been sold for 26
> > > > Billion, since the FDIC still hasn't givin Washington Mutual the 1.9
> > > > Billion that JPM "paid" for it, how do we even know it was even a sale
> > > > and not a ill-gotten "Gift".

> > > > 3x Damages should be awarded for the full amount IMO. Make the FDIC
> > > > pay 76 Billion and make JPM make good on all the banks bonds.

> > > > If that happens we should see a very significant amount of capital
> > > > coming down to the UQ's. Subtract the 11.8 Billion in prefer-eds and
> > > > debt and we are left with 64.2 Billion for commons.

> > > > That would = 37.76$ which I believe is an absolute CRAZY figure. IMO
> > > > we will NEVER see that figure in a settlement but if this case drags
> > > > on into the discovery trials I believe it would be a possible figure.

> > > > IMO we will likely see a settlement in the 8-16$ range since it would
> > > > potentially save JPM a ton of money in the longer run, of course I
> > > > think JPM is just trying to mess around and delay the payment for as
> > > > long as possible.- Hide quoted text -

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