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From: koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 4 2009 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: WaMu, JPMorgan Still Fighting Discovery Battle
By Christine Caulfield

Law360, New York (July 02, 2009) -- Despite a bankruptcy judge's
order
greenlighting the request, Washington Mutual Inc.'s bid to get its
hands on JPMorgan Chase & Co. records for evidence of sabotage
continues, with WaMu now fighting the bank's request to have the
order
overturned.

WaMu fired off an objection to JPMorgan's motion for reconsideration
of the discovery order in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District
of Delaware on Wednesday, saying the bank's request amounted to a
“desperate effort to foreclose discovery concerning its own allegedly
tortious conduct.”

Judge Mary F. Walrath signed off on WaMu's motion to examine
JPMorgan's books on June 24; JPMorgan filed its reconsideration
motion
two days later, according to court documents.

WaMu told the court it wanted access to JPMorgan's books to find
evidence supporting allegations that it crafted a plot to undermine
the one-time savings and loan giant prior to its 2008 collapse in
order to buy up its banking assets cheaply.

WaMu said in its filing this week that it had advised JPMorgan on
June
29 of its intent to limit the scope of its examination to documents
supporting business tort claims, but this compromise offer was
“rebuffed,” it said.

“JPMorgan insists on pressing ahead with their wasteful and meritless
motion for reconsideration of this court's order,” WaMu said.
“JPMorgan asks this court to throw out the baby with the bathwater,
when the debtors have already taken steps to drain the bath.”

WaMu's discovery request on May 1 sought production of documents and
depositions connected to potential business tort claims, potential
fraudulent transfer claims, potential turnover claims and potential
preferential transfer claims against JPMorgan.

JPMorgan objected to the request, stating that WaMu must seek the
information it wanted in already pending litigation. JPMorgan
contended in its objection filed May 13 that WaMu could not use Rule
2004 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code to pursue discovery on issues that
were involved in two separate lawsuits.

WaMu filed an adversary proceeding in the Delaware bankruptcy court
on
April 27, seeking $4 billion in cash that was held in the deposit
accounts of subsidiary Washington Mutual Bank at the time WMB was
seized and sold by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to JPMorgan
for
$1.9 billion.

WaMu also sued the FDIC in the U.S. District Court for the District
of
Columbia, alleging that the purchase price was too low and that the
agency sold assets it had no right to seize.

JPMorgan, which intervened in that suit, also filed its own adversary
proceeding against WaMu, seeking declaratory judgments asserting that
it acquired the debtor in good faith and that it was the owner of the
$7.9 billion in disputed assets.

It was the last two suits that JPMorgan referred to as the operative
pending proceedings.

In granting WaMu's request over the bank's objections, Judge Walrath
said JPMorgan had misapplied the pending proceeding rule, since
WaMu's
motion did not seek evidence related to the bank's adversary
proceeding.

“Simply because JPMorgan chose to include background information
regarding the relationship of the parties involved in the JPMorgan
adversary action in its complaint does not mean that any Rule 2004
examination request dealing with those background facts is related to
the JPM adversary action,” the judge said.

“The court concludes that the debtors' motion does not seek the
discovery of evidence related to the JPMorgan adversary action,” the
judge added.

Judge Walrath said JPMorgan's suit sought the court's declaration
that
it owned certain assets from the sale of WaMu, which occurred after
WaMu's closure, while WaMu sought to investigate conduct that
occurred
before the closure.

Further, the judge ruled, JPMorgan was not a party to WaMu's action
against the FDIC, and the mere possibility that it could be permitted
to intervene was insufficient to deny WaMu's motion.

WaMu asked to conduct a Rule 2004 investigation into JPMorgan after a
group of WaMu investors sued JPMorgan in the U.S. District Court for
the Southern District of Texas. WaMu wants to investigate whether the
allegations in the shareholder complaint are true, it said.

The investors allege that JPMorgan deliberately drove down the value
of WMB by abusing confidential information and that JPMorgan engaged
in sham negotiations with WaMu throughout 2008 about buying the
banking arm in order to obtain confidential information.

JPMorgan then shared that information with WaMu bank customers to
persuade them to withdraw their deposits, leaked information to the
media to depress the bank's stock value and ultimately used it in its
negotiations with the FDIC, allowing JPMorgan to acquire WaMu's bank
assets for a "fire sale" price, the investors claim.

WaMu filed for Chapter 11 protection on Sept. 26, citing
approximately
$33 billion in total assets and $8.2 billion in debts.

WaMu is represented by Elliott Greenleaf and Quinn Emanuel Urquhart
Oliver & Hedges LLP.

JPMorgan is represented by Landis Rath & Cobb LLP and Sullivan &
Cromwell LLP.

The case is In re: Washington Mutual Inc., case number 08-12229, in
the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware.

--Additional reporting by Jacqueline Bell and Brendan Pierson

On Jul 3, 7:32 am, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Take a look at this...

> This may be part of their battle plan... Pulled from Yahoo (hate to do
> this all the time but once in a while they have a good point)...

> Here is one of the good comments:Chas wrote:

> With the recent approval for discovery/production - the next step is a
> jury trial…and that’s where the FDIC/JPMc don’t want to be:

> Weil/Quinn has paved the ground work of their case and FDIC/JPM’s only
> defense is “It was a terrible financial situation in our country; we
> had to do it, to stop a systemic meltdown.” The beauty of the case (if
> it gets in front of a jury) is that WMI’s motions carry the “black and
> white” badge of truth, whereas, JPM’s carries the badge of “greed”.
> Juries don’t like greed… Period.

> True or False: Did JPMc break its 18 month confidentially agreement?
> It’s true – it’s right there in black in white. Sure there will be
> some legal conjecture and arguments about what this clause means and
> what that clause means, but ultimately, everyone knows that when you
> agree to not buy the company from “anyone” in 18 months – then you buy
> it anyway - Well, how does JPM defend that? Juries don’t like liars…
> Period.

> True or False: During the “whole bank” transfer and sale, did more
> than WMB/WMfsb deposits and related assets get transferred? The answer
> is yes. JPMc is in possession of Trust Securities and is attempting to
> lay claim to tax refunds that are property of WMI. Also, JPMc claims
> the 3.7 Billion deposit held in WMB was actually a cash infusion (a
> cash infusion into what? A deposit base?). Not to mention that JPMc
> thinks it owns the Legacy Rabbi Trusts, Pension and 401(k) plans, the
> BOLI and Split Dollar policies and some 3 million plus Visa shares.
> These instruments were clearly by and for the benefit of WMI and its
> employees. How does JPM defend that? Might they say “The FDIC said we
> could”..How does the FDIC defend that? Juries don’t like thieves…
> Period.

> True or False: Is JPMc using the WaMu Trademarks and Servicemarks?
> It’s true, the FDIC did transfer WMB/WMfsb but the Trademarks and
> Servicemarks belong/are property of WMI. How does JPM defend that?
> Might they say “The FDIC said we could”..How does the FDIC defend
> that? Might they say “We didn’t know that WMI had them, we thought it
> was part of WMB/WMfsb…” Juries don’t like bootlegging… Period.

> True or False: (This is the most glaring atrocity of it all). Is
> getting a company valued at 300B for 1.9B then later bragging about it
> in public, in shareholder meetings, in SEC documents a bad idea? Of
> course it is, but JPM has shown an outright tendency toward vagary (in
> the sense of eccentric ideas). Juries don’t like vanity…Period.

> Because of the potential of a Jury Trial, we shareholders and our
> ‘peers’ aren’t exactly in love with the government’s actions or big
> banks right now, but most important of all; because section 547 and
> 548 of the bankruptcy code says that this case is winnable by Weil/
> Quinn.

> On Jul 3, 1:06 am, "I love WAMU !" <nicole100w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > From: Nicole - nicole100w...@gmail.com

> > By Christine Caulfield

> > Law360, New York (July 02, 2009) -- Despite a bankruptcy judge's order
> > greenlighting the request, Washington Mutual Inc.'s bid to get its
> > hands on JPMorgan Chase & Co. records for evidence of sabotage
> > continues, with WaMu now fighting the bank's request to have the order
> > overturned.

> > WaMu fired off an objection to JPMorgan's motion for reconsideration
> > of the discovery order in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District
> > of Delaware on Wednesday, saying the bank's request amounted to a
> > “desperate effort to foreclose discovery concerning its own allegedly
> > tortious conduct.”

> > Judge Mary F. Walrath signed off on WaMu's motion to examine
> > JPMorgan's books on June 24; JPMorgan filed its reconsideration motion
> > two days later, according to court documents.

> > WaMu told the court it wanted access to JPMorgan's books to find
> > evidence supporting allegations that it crafted a plot to undermine
> > the one-time savings and loan giant prior to its 2008 collapse in
> > order to buy up its banking assets cheaply.

> > WaMu said in its filing this week that it had advised JPMorgan on June
> > 29 of its intent to limit the scope of its examination to documents
> > supporting business tort claims, but this compromise offer was
> > “rebuffed,” it said.

> > “JPMorgan insists on pressing ahead with their wasteful and meritless
> > motion for reconsideration of this court's order,” WaMu said.
> > “JPMorgan asks this court to throw out the baby with the bathwater,
> > when the debtors have already taken steps to drain the bath.”

> > WaMu's discovery request on May 1 sought production of documents and
> > depositions connected to potential business tort claims, potential
> > fraudulent transfer claims, potential turnover claims and potential
> > preferential transfer claims against JPMorgan.

> > JPMorgan objected to the request, stating that WaMu must seek the
> > information it wanted in already pending litigation. JPMorgan
> > contended in its objection filed May 13 that WaMu could not use Rule
> > 2004 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code to pursue discovery on issues that
> > were involved in two separate lawsuits.

> > WaMu filed an adversary proceeding in the Delaware bankruptcy court on
> > April 27, seeking $4 billion in cash that was held in the deposit
> > accounts of subsidiary Washington Mutual Bank at the time WMB was
> > seized and sold by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to JPMorgan for
> > $1.9 billion.

> > WaMu also sued the FDIC in the U.S. District Court for the District of
> > Columbia, alleging that the purchase price was too low and that the
> > agency sold assets it had no right to seize.

> > JPMorgan, which intervened in that suit, also filed its own adversary
> > proceeding against WaMu, seeking declaratory judgments asserting that
> > it acquired the debtor in good faith and that it was the owner of the
> > $7.9 billion in disputed assets.

> > It was the last two suits that JPMorgan referred to as the operative
> > pending proceedings.

> > In granting WaMu's request over the bank's objections, Judge Walrath
> > said JPMorgan had misapplied the pending proceeding rule, since WaMu's
> > motion did not seek evidence related to the bank's adversary
> > proceeding.

> > “Simply because JPMorgan chose to include background information
> > regarding the relationship of the parties involved in the JPMorgan
> > adversary action in its complaint does not mean that any Rule 2004
> > examination request dealing with those background facts is related to
> > the JPM adversary action,” the judge said.

> > “The court concludes that the debtors' motion does not seek the
> > discovery of evidence related to the JPMorgan adversary action,” the
> > judge added.

> > Judge Walrath said JPMorgan's suit sought the court's declaration that
> > it owned certain assets from the sale of WaMu, which occurred after
> > WaMu's closure, while WaMu sought to investigate conduct that occurred
> > before the closure.

> > Further, the judge ruled, JPMorgan was not a party to WaMu's action
> > against the FDIC, and the mere possibility that it could be permitted
> > to intervene was insufficient to deny WaMu's motion.

> > WaMu asked to conduct a Rule 2004 investigation into JPMorgan after a
> > group of WaMu investors sued JPMorgan in the U.S. District Court for
> > the Southern District of Texas. WaMu wants to investigate whether the
> > allegations in the shareholder complaint are true, it said.

> > The investors allege that JPMorgan deliberately drove down the value
> > of WMB by abusing confidential information and that JPMorgan engaged
> > in sham negotiations with WaMu throughout 2008 about buying the
> > banking arm in order to obtain confidential information.

> > JPMorgan then shared that information with WaMu bank customers to
> > persuade them to withdraw their deposits, leaked information to the
> > media to depress the bank's stock value and ultimately used it in its
> > negotiations with the FDIC, allowing JPMorgan to acquire WaMu's bank
> > assets for a "fire sale" price, the investors claim.

> > WaMu filed for Chapter 11 protection on Sept. 26, citing approximately
> > $33 billion in total assets and $8.2 billion in debts.

> > WaMu is represented by Elliott Greenleaf and Quinn Emanuel Urquhart
> > Oliver & Hedges LLP.

> > JPMorgan is represented by Landis Rath & Cobb LLP and Sullivan &
> > Cromwell LLP.

> > The case is In re: Washington Mutual Inc., case number 08-12229, in
> > the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware.

> > --Additional reporting by Jacqueline Bell and Brendan Pierson

> >http://www.law360.com/articles/109471- Hide quoted text -

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