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 More options Jul 9, 1:52 pm
From: Dimonmedoff <takamiyada...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Wow ------ Rotella & Schneider (Interesting find #2)
 Due to recent actions by the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation) and JPM (JP Morgan Chase), it has become apparent that
Washington Mutual Inc. (WMI) will have to fight seemingly endless
court battles to get proper compensation for its assets which were
illegally seized and virtually given away to JPMorgan Chase (Stock
Symbol: JPM). These assets include a number of major items that were
sold as property of Washington Mutual Bank (which was “bought” by JPM
for $1.9 Billion) and are actually property of the former holding
company of the bank. Given its charter, the FDIC has no authority in
these matters as its’ concerns with Washington Mutual should have
ended immediately after its fire sale of the bank.  Assets which were
not part of the bank were sold.

Due to these reasons, Washington Mutual Inc (Stock Symbols: WAHUQ,
WAMPQ, WAMKQ and WAMUQ) has filed suit against the FDIC, and the FDIC
is attempting to sway the public through press releases trying to
discredit the parent company and muddle the truth. As concerned
shareholders of Washington Mutual Inc and American citizens it is
clear that the truth behind these actions will not see the light of
day unless we speak up.

To combat this, a website has been created by shareholders to provide
insight into what has occurred in this case and to provide the general
public the facts behind what happened in the seizure and the ensuing
months.  This site (www.WamuTruth.com) contains links to official
government documents regarding the seizure, as well as other pertinent
information regarding the attempts of the several parties to prevent
justice from being done.

Through the unprecedented seizure of a solvent and well-capitalized
bank and the essential gifting of it to JP Morgan Chase, it is clear
that America is reverting to a country with complete disregard for the
law and due process. This seizure affected all Americans and
precipitated the greatest stock market collapse seen since the Crash
of 1929. The information regarding this crash can be viewed at
www.WamuTruth.com.

As Thomas Jefferson said, “The natural progress of things is for
liberty to yield and government to gain ground.” It is time for
Americans to reverse this trend and return our nation to its roots.
It is time for this country to once again become a government "by and
for the people" and not a handful of Wall Street bankers and
incompetent government agencies.  Getting the truth out about the
illegal acts surrounding the seizure of Washington Mutual Bank and its
parent company's subsidiaries is where our group intends to start.
Government agencies cannot be permitted to disregard the law and make
hasty decisions that adversely affect millions of American citizens.
It is time to learn the facts, and make the government fix what it has
bungled. Only once that is done will a true economic recovery occur.

Please view www.wamutruth.com to receive more information

On Jul 4, 8:46 am, gate <gate6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> at JPM crime pays but Only for a short time.............

> On Jul 3, 5:27 pm, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Now the part 2 is more interesting . DISCOVERY GAME ON !!!!!!

> > On Jul 3, 8:21 am, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Appears John McMurray has left JPM.

> > > Also the person he had replaced as Chief Risk Officer at WAMU (who
> > > resigned) is listed as a defendant now in a class action suit against
> > > WAMU.

> > > Federal Home Loan Bank of Seattle Announces Management Changes
> > > 04/30/2009
> > > Federal Home Loan Bank of Seattle announced that John P. McMurray will
> > > join as senior vice president, chief risk officer effective May 1,
> > > 2009. Mr. McMurray has been performing contract services for the
> > > Seattle Bank since December 2008. Mr. McMurray formerly served as
> > > chief enterprise risk officer for Washington Mutual Bank, F.S.B., a
> > > division of JPMorgan Chase NA. The Seattle Bank's current senior vice
> > > president"http://investing.businessweek.com/resear...

> > > --"McMurray has been performing contract work since December 2008"--

> > > So it appears McMurray wasn't too keen on staying with JPM despite
> > > being given an opportunity to do so. McMurray was only one of a few
> > > listed WMB employees who would be kept on board.
> > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > -----------------
> > > Also....

> > > "on July 22, WaMu held a conference call to discuss the Company’s
> > > second quarter 2008 financial results. Defendants Killinger and Casey
> > > participated in the call along with WaMu’s new Chief Enterprise Risk
> > > Officer John McMurray. During the call, Killinger, Casey and Murray
> > > reviewed the results set forth in the Company’s press release. They
> > > also explained that, in 2008, the Company’s Option ARM loans
> > > experienced the fastest rise in delinquency rates and that they
> > > expected “other prime loans, which are mostly 5 and 7 year hybrids, to
> > > follow Option ARMs closely.” According to McMurray, home equity loans
> > > and subprime mortgages had experienced high delinquency rates during
> > > the late 2006 to late 2007 time period."

> > > So Rotella comes in in 2004, hires Schneider in 2005, then the year
> > > after things start to crumble. And who is the person that explains
> > > this during conference calls; McMurray the former Chief Credit Officer
> > > recently promoted to Chief Risk Officer.

> > > *Keep in mind, Rotella's offer letter from WMB was for 500k (link just
> > > so happens to be disabled at this time, ODD). And his total
> > > compensation for 2005 was in fact 2.3 Million. Not a bad first year?

> > > So he makes 4x+ his salary during his first year, was hired by Rotella
> > > to run the Home Loans Division, and from that moment things start to
> > > go downhill for WMB's mortgage lending.....

> > > Then JPM decides he is someone worth keeping on board?

> > > On Jul 3, 8:19 am, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Rotella appears to be the front runner on a shortlist of people that
> > > > may fit the 'mole' scenario put forth in the Texas Action Suit.
> > > >  http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_W/thread...

> > > > See link below:http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/bu...

> > > > “According to yet another longtime executive, Rotella became involved
> > > > more than most top bank executives when the mortgage sales staff
> > > > complained about applications that were declined. More than once,
> > > > Rotella pressured credit officers to reverse their decisions, this
> > > > executive said. "Steve Rotella created a culture of fear" WaMu had
> > > > five chief credit officers during the less than 4 years Rotella was at
> > > > the bank.

> > > > Which brings me to my next point....

> > > > "WMB had 5 chief credit officers during the less than 4 years Rotella
> > > > was at the bank"

> > > > I've searched and searched for these 5 Chief Credit Officers (CCO) and
> > > > the only one I could locate was: John McMurray

> > > > This find was of particular interest to me because it is a direct link
> > > > to one of the 'Chief Credit Officers" that Rotella had pressured to
> > > > reverse decisions on faulty loans...or so the story goes.

> > > > So John was a "Cheif Credit Officer" and then John was promoted to
> > > > Chief Risk Officer. John replaced Ron Cathcart who resigned after
> > > > having worked with WMB from 2004 until 4/2008. Ron's resignation
> > > > motive was never stated and remains unclear. John who was a chief
> > > > credit officer interacted with Rotella and played a large role in the
> > > > 'toxic mortgages' that were at the 'root of WMB's unwinding', yet he
> > > > was promoted.

> > > > 1. WMB hires Rotella from JPM
> > > > 2. Rotella hires Schneider
> > > > 3. 5 Chief Credit Officers depart their position during Rotella's less
> > > > than four year run (for unknown reasons)
> > > > 4. One of the chief credit officers who stood, John, is promoted to
> > > > that of Chief Risk Officer despite his 'poor' success as a credit
> > > > officer and the dwindling status of WMB
> > > > 5. John remains Chief Risk Officer for 3 and a half months then WMB is
> > > > seized by OTS. As Chief Risk Officer and Chief Credit Officer some of
> > > > his responsibilities included: "leading the company's overall strategy
> > > > and working with the business to achieve appropriate balance between
> > > > risk and expected return."

> > > >http://www.seattlepi.com/business/361135...

> > > > So another player who interacted with Rotella (and his interesting
> > > > strategies/priorities) gets promoted, has the major responsibility of
> > > > ensuring WMB manages their risks properly, WMB is said to have failed
> > > > because of giving out 'risky loans'; inclusive of option arms.http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wamu-fa...

> > > > So the person that was suppose to manage risk; does not (if in fact
> > > > WMB failed because of high risk lending) the bank fails. Then JPM
> > > > keeps him; someone that had always played a part in containing/
> > > > eliminating risk for WMB.

> > > >http://www.reuters.com/article/businessN...

> > > > "JP Morgan will be hiring several senior Washington Mutual
> > > > executives ...John McMurray, chief enterprise risk officer; David
> > > > Schneider, president, home loans"

> > > > Take the person who was hired by Rotella and keep him as head of
> > > > retail banking with your team. Then take one of the people that
> > > > directly interacted with Rotella about lending, the person that is
> > > > responsible for assessing risk and keep him (though he clearly failed)
> > > > and keep him in charge of assessing risk.

> > > > This indicates one of two things to me:

> > > > 1. JPM doesn't believe that WMB failed because of risky loans and
> > > > toxic mortgages and wanted to keep the skilled people (thinking it
> > > > wouldn't come back to bite them)

> > > > 2. JPM thinks/knows that they owe these people a bit of gratitude for
> > > > the damage they did internally at WMB, allowing for the OTS/FDIC to
> > > > provide JPM with WMB for a discounted rate.- Hide quoted text -

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