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Just how many stores does SBUX actually own in any given market?
Are all those stores in NYC just steps away from each other company or franchise operations? How many belong to the Reise Corp and other big chain/brand franchisers? Did SBUX miss out on the really good locations as far as company owned stores? SBUX made a BIG splash in a short time in NY. Seems like a lot of real estate soon to come on the market. It is a great brand but Starbucks liquor, Really! My prediction is there will be a lot more unprofitable stores on the books. 600 is just scratching the surface. Wake up and smell the roses... They are dying!!! As is SBUX. Long term is good if you have the time, 12 years. Think that is off the mark just check out GE. It has gone nowhere in 10 years. NOWHERE! This is a $4.00 stock without dividends. Want a nice play folks. Short SBUX and take the profits and put it into MNRTA and watch your money grow. At least the yield will pay for a few more lattes than any return you will ever get on SBUX. Come clean Howard! SBUX had lofty aspirations, and were way out there and off the mark. Ps Howard, Monorail espresso is for sale. Maybe it is time to start over and go back to basics. It is too late for this baby! Tully, Don't go down this path... |
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i doubt expansion in the 'rest of the world' will be as impressive as
it WAS in the west. The rest of the world have their own drinks. They do however need iron ore (VALE) and help in construction (UTX) also computers to expans business (IBM) or maybe energy (coal,oil, maybe even SOLAR???) ... global growth is for a select few. Dump your shares this is a long term down trend. |
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Ok Seattleites, Being a bi-coastal transplant I truly understand ones
willingness to "stand by your brand" It is time to throw SBUX and WAMU (WM) out with the bath water. It is time to come over to the "dark side" (yea I moved to NJ) and purchase MNRTA ( a NJ corp). and sit this one out. I am not a stock "picker" well maybe I am if you count losers! I only know "value investing" when Warren Buffett puts it right in front of my nose. I still hold GE and IBM which I purchased at their all time highs. How can you dump GE? IBM was almost back a few weeks ago. ALMOST. Almost is only good if you are throwing grenades. Which makes this market a minefield, period. So why I ask you coffee persons, is why do you hang on with great hopes for the short turn? |
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/370512_starbucks12.html
Looks like it will be a while before Howard makes the 600 mark.
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Well... MOST stores are company owned. Almost all of the ones inside
of other stores (Kroger, etc.) are owned by the company that owns the store they're in. Also, some airport locations aren't company owned, I believe... If you're talking about all the stores out on the street, though,
windward...@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe you should do some research prior to making posts. > SBUX doesn't franchise. All stores are company owned. |
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Seems as though you should have an idea of ownership before making
predictions on valuation. My understanding is that Starbucks owns about 80% of their domestic stores. The company owned stores dwarf the other ownership model which is licensed stores. Starbucks does not franchise, they license. The licensed channel is made op of big hitters like Target, Safeway, and Host Marriott (airports, etc.) Just wanted to cklarify so you can reconsider your valuation |
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