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Mr. Big  
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From: "Mr. Big" <evanble...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:16:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
The stock is worth maybe $14.

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UA  
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
So Mr. Big, you shorted the stock at what $15?  You should sell now
man, this stock is going to $20 in the next 3 weeks.

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Mr. Big  
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From: "Mr. Big" <evanble...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
No no, I haven't touched it. If it goes to 20 I might, though. If it
goes to $25 that's a safer bet. The idiots think SBUX will go to the
moon, but the pragmatists are a little more grounded. The 25% per year
growth days are over. Starbucks is a strong company, but a strong
company is only worth so much.

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Dionysus  
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From: Dionysus <dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Big is dead right. If you're buying now you're setting yourself up for
a big disappointment long term. In the short term the market is
unpredictable.

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C. Peabody  
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From: "C. Peabody" <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
So, basically what you're saying is that you have no idea what you're
talking about. Cool.

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Ian  
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From: Ian <ian.ri...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Peabody,

why don't you explain why you think it is undervalued instead of
calling everyone an idiot?  That might help your argument.  Are you
capable of making a case for a stock?  The fact that it's trading
higher than it was 2 days ago doesn't make us wrong and it doesn't
prove you right.

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Dionysus  
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From: Dionysus <dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:52:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Watch it Ian, this guy is obviously has a PhD in finance. ;)

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cp  
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From: cp <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Pipe down, Dinosaur... it's going to be okay. Hope that short works
out for you, bud.

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Rick  
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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
.
NO NO NO -IT IS NOT!
ITS WAY OVERVALUED !!!!!!!!!!!
I'm an insider of SBUX.
They/We have done nothing to deserve an increase in 6 yrs.
I /we want the changes!!!!!!
We are sitting with the same game plan we had previously...NONE / ZERO
Direction for our future.
We have let MD's and many many others come along and pass us
dramatically in What we have
been known for.
oh wait -we are camouflaging our stores opening with a diff look.
When that is not our issue its losing customers and connection.
Howard wants books/ BAD merchandise/ itunes/ etc. in the stores.
He's greedy and we/he has lost the grip SBUX once had.
We'll never be trendy again, and thats the gimmick WE HAD!

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UA  
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From: UA <johnpdobb...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
No chance.  Value is around $22.62 right now.  If you went short, get
out now.

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Dionysus  
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:05:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Anybody who think the value of Starbucks is around $22 needs to go to
a psychologist. CP ( Captain Pen!s?) is obviously out to lunch.

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cp  
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From: cp <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
I said 20, Dinosaur... and that's way out to lunch, huh? Where are we
19.64? I understand you're frustrated with your short sale... maybe
trading isn't your thing. Maybe penises are more on your mind, by the
looks of your posts... but sorry Dinotool, you can't have mine. See,
I'm happily married to a female and unfortunately for you, am not
interested in cockchugging.
Good Luck!

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Dionysus  
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From: Dionysus <dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
CP,

Can you point out where I said I shorted Starbucks? Can you point to
where I said the price wouldn't go to 20? Have you watched any good
Greek plays lately?

All,

Starbucks is worth about $14. The company can potentially earn $0.90
based on the historic use it could make of its assets, the number of
stores they currently have and the number
of shares outstanding. Subtract from that value the net debt, and you
get a
price around $14. Oh, and Mr. Big did a post about the international
stores not being profitable. They are, of course, profitable in some
areas, but there are many many countries in which they are not.

The high growth days are over. The company can likely grow to some
degree, but you can't expect out-sized growth going forward. The
company is just too big to post more than one or two +20% growth years
going forward. Its doubtful that the company can even have a couple
20% growth years going forward. This doesn't count the earnings
rebound that will likely come after the big wash passes.

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Charlie  
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From: Charlie <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Dinosaur, your post is moderately to severely naive. Starbucks is
trading at around 19 a share. Also, perform a basic book value
calculation before you post this nonsense. Thanks.

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Charlie  
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From: Charlie <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Oh, and I'm not Mr. Big, as you say... I'm just not an idiot.

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Charlie  
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From: Charlie <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Short low, cover high... good strategy...

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Ian  
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From: Ian <ian.ri...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Basic book value?  What am I missing?  2.8 Billion net assets over 740
million shares isn't anywhere close to $20, and I didn't even subtract
intangibles.  So far, the 2 people calling the other side idiots have
shown they don't know what a money market account or book value is.  I
should have doubled my short position today.  Closed right at its
strike price and next month isn't looking so good.

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Charlie  
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From: Charlie <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Listen, if you guys are making bad trades, why don't you just invest
in something else? You can go to your local savings bank and get a CD
for 2.5% that's FDIC insured. Maybe losing money in the stock market
trying to be some sort of day/swing trader isn't your thing. The one
whose so negative and frustrated is usually the guy losing money. It
appears as though you two are the ones who need some education. Or,
better yet, go to your local Starbucks and fill out an application...
I hear that they have a fantastic benefits package. That's the sort of
gig that seems to resonate more with you, Dinosaur. Mr. Big is not
quite the nickname suitable for you just yet.

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Charlie  
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From: Charlie <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Oh, yeah... I am sorry about your losses, though. I know how much it
must suck to see a trade you made go sour AND not even have the balls
to get out. Remember, sky's the limit for short-sale losses. I didn't
know shorting low and covering high was a good strategy, but what do I
know right? I'm the one who needs some financial education, right?
Isn't that what you said? Huh... I'd send you one of my account
balances, but I'm actually okay inside. Besides, I don't even need to
invest. This is just fun for me... but man, these boards are
absolutely littered with a slew of mindless idiots. What, are you guys
from middle America? Deep South? Do you knuckleheads vote AGAINST your
own interests? I'm done with you guys. What a shame to the people who
raised you to be acting like a couple of children on the internet?
You're big and bad and smart on your keyboard????
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Dionysus  
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
Charlie,

How exactly did you arrive at Starbucks' book value?

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
UA,

How do you arrive at your fair value?

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From: 1977 <ca.peabod...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
"The stock is worth maybe $14."
-Call by Mr. Big... hahahahahahahahaaa

Now might be a good time to change that nickname of yours.

I said SBUX is worth $20... it's currently trading for $20...

Good luck day trading, amateurs.

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Dionysus  
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
1977, you're a twat. Mr. Big didn't call $14 he said it was worth $14.
There is a difference between value and price. Remove the ticker tape
that's wrapped around your eyes.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:11:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
If it's worth 20$ and it trades at 20$, then it has a P/E ratio of 1?

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...
I mean not PE ratio, but P / ( Sum of the PV of all SBUX's future
earnings)

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