Starbucks Corporation Google Group

chinese coffee drinkers?

cvt.he...@gmail.com (cvt admin) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:19:45 UT

Japanese people are heavy consumers of coffee, but chinese people are
heavy tea drinkers. Unless Starbucks will serve tea as well as coffee
in China, I just don't know how it go

I See Green Shoots

goodnight4...@yahoo.com (Yumiko) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:46:56 UT

Strong Buy

Nice to see starbucks getting back its lost glory

sucanmail...@gmail.com (sucan) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:44:59 UT

Nice to see starbucks getting back its lost glory it is has become a
part of American culture and people were worried about it a year back
[link]

Re: SBUX worth > $23

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Re: SBUX worth > $23

jonaker...@gmail.com (jonathon Kerrie) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:03:15 UT

I think it is worth 30 in the long run. buffett started to buy
companies, I saw his video [link]

very good

Re: SBUX worth > $23

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (CAP III) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:57:05 UT

"Starbucks is closing stores. Starbucks is cutting
costs just to make a profit. So it is actually at the exact opposite
and should be trading around 15 times earnings (or lower), because
growth looks unlikely."

Uhhhhhh... not according to Q4 results today, Timbuktu.

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

tranc3mot...@gmail.com (Trance_Emotion) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:27:03 UT

I mean not PE ratio, but P / ( Sum of the PV of all SBUX's future
earnings)

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

tranc3mot...@gmail.com (Trance_Emotion) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:11:41 UT

If it's worth 20$ and it trades at 20$, then it has a P/E ratio of 1?

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

alexw....@gmail.com (weihan c) — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:36:28 UT

I think whoever said Starbucks is a 20 dollar stock way back in August
is right.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

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Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

peanutgalleryn...@gmail.com (peanutgallerynews) — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:20:56 UT

I don't think you are making a strong bearish argument when your using
a p/e as central to your point, when that p/e is based off of horrible
numbers during a re-organizing of the business. .01, .09, .03 and then
the good quarter .20 which kick started the recent rise in the stock.
If you assume the poor three quarters are thus anomalies that occurred

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

sayhellotoy...@gmail.com (Hello Yall) — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:38:55 UT

You must have been at the unemployment office. or was it the food
bank? .

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com (Dionysus) — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:50:16 UT

1977, you're a twat. Mr. Big didn't call $14 he said it was worth $14.
There is a difference between value and price. Remove the ticker tape
that's wrapped around your eyes.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

bamh...@netzero.net (XyClone) — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:30:58 UT

Lines all day long......

Up we go!

Re: SBUX worth > $23

tcon1...@gmail.com (Tim Conley) — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:57:51 UT

All the short arguments seem emotional and hopeful rather than based
on some long-term business impairment. P/E ratios don't help much
when
companies have gone through a period of write-offs that distort
earnings. SBUX closed unprofitable stores that were likely stealing
business away from close by stores rather than serving new customers.

Re: SBUX worth > $23

sayhellotoy...@gmail.com (Hello Yall) — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:11:32 UT

SBUX is worth only what someone will pay for it as is their coffee,
Closing unprofitable locations will indeed help the bottom line. The
reason so many stores were opened was because SBUX believed there was
an almost bottomless pit of suckers willing to part with their money.
Now SBUX believes that opening new stores and deceiving the public

SBUX worth > $23

spend...@gmail.com (Steve) — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:48:48 UT

I put together a model with some single digit sales growth and nominal
margins going forward. It seems that they are worth more like $24 to
$25. If recent price increases and lower milk prices have more impact
than my assumptions, shares could be worth more.
If you want to see the numbers, I posted them at:

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (1977) — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:42:48 UT

"The stock is worth maybe $14."
-Call by Mr. Big... hahahahahahahahaaa

Now might be a good time to change that nickname of yours.

I said SBUX is worth $20... it's currently trading for $20...

Good luck day trading, amateurs.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (1977) — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:39:16 UT

"Starbucks is a good company but I am sure that in next 90 days it
will
go down to 15 before going to 20." - by GM PREDICTION

Call made Aug. 7, 2009 11:57pm

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com (Dionysus) — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:12:20 UT

UA,

How do you arrive at your fair value?

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com (Dionysus) — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:10:46 UT

Charlie,

How exactly did you arrive at Starbucks' book value?

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (Charlie) — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:39:47 UT

Oh, yeah... I am sorry about your losses, though. I know how much it
must suck to see a trade you made go sour AND not even have the balls
to get out. Remember, sky's the limit for short-sale losses. I didn't
know shorting low and covering high was a good strategy, but what do I
know right? I'm the one who needs some financial education, right?

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (Charlie) — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:30:58 UT

Listen, if you guys are making bad trades, why don't you just invest
in something else? You can go to your local savings bank and get a CD
for 2.5% that's FDIC insured. Maybe losing money in the stock market
trying to be some sort of day/swing trader isn't your thing. The one
whose so negative and frustrated is usually the guy losing money. It

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ian.ri...@gmail.com (Ian) — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:43:40 UT

Basic book value? What am I missing? 2.8 Billion net assets over 740
million shares isn't anywhere close to $20, and I didn't even subtract
intangibles. So far, the 2 people calling the other side idiots have
shown they don't know what a money market account or book value is. I
should have doubled my short position today. Closed right at its

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (Charlie) — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:23:26 UT

Short low, cover high... good strategy...

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (Charlie) — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:21:00 UT

Oh, and I'm not Mr. Big, as you say... I'm just not an idiot.

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (Charlie) — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:18:57 UT

Dinosaur, your post is moderately to severely naive. Starbucks is
trading at around 19 a share. Also, perform a basic book value
calculation before you post this nonsense. Thanks.

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com (Dionysus) — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:16:45 UT

CP,

Can you point out where I said I shorted Starbucks? Can you point to
where I said the price wouldn't go to 20? Have you watched any good
Greek plays lately?

All,

Starbucks is worth about $14. The company can potentially earn $0.90
based on the historic use it could make of its assets, the number of

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cap) — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:00:06 UT

I never said coffee is a health food. Perhaps you should read the post
again and reassess. But thanks for the update that caffeine and
alcohol are addictive substances... how are you, bud?

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

sayhellotoy...@gmail.com (Hello Yall) — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:49:22 UT

Please elaborate on how coffee is a health food? Caffeine is one of
the most addictive substances consumed. Starbucks knows this. That's
how they make money. It reminds me of how advertisers used to make
cigarette smokers look cool and part of the "in crowd". Starbucks
plans to sell alcohol in some locations. These two addictive

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

sayhellotoy...@gmail.com (Hello Yall) — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:34:29 UT

Starbucks did get beaten down. It was a bargain at $7. At $19 it is
overpriced.
Starbucks does not agree with you as they are trying out new products
such as alcohol in some locations. If you are right about strategy
that makes Starbucks new strategy wrong.

Re: Confused

ian.ri...@gmail.com (Ian) — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:25:26 UT

Why do you feel sorry for his money market account?

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:19:05 UT

I said 20, Dinosaur... and that's way out to lunch, huh? Where are we
19.64? I understand you're frustrated with your short sale... maybe
trading isn't your thing. Maybe penises are more on your mind, by the
looks of your posts... but sorry Dinotool, you can't have mine. See,
I'm happily married to a female and unfortunately for you, am not

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

dionysustheolymp...@gmail.com (Dionysus) — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:05:25 UT

Anybody who think the value of Starbucks is around $22 needs to go to
a psychologist. CP ( Captain Pen!s?) is obviously out to lunch.

Confused

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:20:49 UT

Can whatever your name is please explain to me why SBUX is tanking to
10 before 20?

I feel sorry for your money market account.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a

15 before 20, huh?

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:38:43 UT

Have fun with that, bud.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

t.e.steven...@gmail.com (Thomas Stevenson) — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:41:55 UT

What most people do not understand is that Starbucks remains a
relatively small player in the overall coffee market. They are only
large in relation to the smaller specialty coffee industry. The
introduction of lattes at McDonalds has the potential to substantially
increase the public's appetite for premium coffees. This can only

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 05:20:49 UT

Sell me your shares for 15 if your wrong.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

sunilvarshn...@gmail.com (GM PREDICTION) — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:57:37 UT

Starbucks is a good company but I am sure that in next 90 days it will
go down to 15 before going to 20.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:26:25 UT

No Timbo, I like the stock because it got beaten down like everything
else, but fundamentally SBUX is a great company and worth more. And
no... I do not think they should get side-tracked trying to sell a
bunch of other things... sticking to drinks and such will prove to be
the best strategy going forward... just watch... Oh, and did you

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

tcon1...@gmail.com (Tim Conley) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:56:26 UT

Umm...so you like Starbucks, as a stock, because people go there and
drink coffee and it is crowded. Ha

I agree Starbucks is a good company, overall good strategy, food,
coffee, etc. And ya I like going to starbucks every once in a while,
that is NOT what I'm trying to argue. I was saying that their stock

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:03:25 UT

I know... WF had a juicy pullback at the end of that 6-week broad
market pullback we had before the July rally. I think it was down
around 17, and I knew I should've bought back... though I did get in
late around mid-20s.
Also, regarding SBUX, I think the Via instant may do really well. If I
could make instant coffee without having to ingest some sort of crap

Re: 2 years ago at Starbucks (radio podcast)

coffeeinside...@gmail.com (CoffeeInsider67) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:48:08 UT

Since I last posted, they must have been reading my posts about how
their use of super-automatic machines are making them out to be fast-
food coffee. That new, new store in Seattle is out of left field..
way past the green monster.. for them, but seems to be a better step
and I've always wanted to own a bar!

Re: 2 years ago at Starbucks (radio podcast)

johnpdobb...@gmail.com (UA) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:10:29 UT

CoffeeInsider...it has been too long. Last time I saw you, Sbux was
at $12. How you doing man? Still going short on the rising SBUX?
You still lovin it?

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

johnpdobb...@gmail.com (UA) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:09:08 UT

No chance. Value is around $22.62 right now. If you went short, get
out now.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ian.ri...@gmail.com (Ian) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:30:50 UT

That wasn't so hard, was it? I just wanted to make sure you weren't a
12 year old...

You make some good points. I go to starbucks around 5 days a week.
My local bux is also always full, but my location is a high traffic
area that caters to locals and also beach traffic. If I drive inland,
to some of the newer locations in big box retail centers that are half

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

rickfuna...@gmail.com (Rick) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:20:52 UT

.
NO NO NO -IT IS NOT!
ITS WAY OVERVALUED !!!!!!!!!!!
I'm an insider of SBUX.
They/We have done nothing to deserve an increase in 6 yrs.
I /we want the changes!!!!!!
We are sitting with the same game plan we had previously...NONE / ZERO
Direction for our future.
We have let MD's and many many others come along and pass us

Re: Stupid Americans back to there old ways...

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:38:58 UT

Pipe down, Dinosaur... it's going to be okay. Hope that short works
out for you, bud.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:35:50 UT

By the way, in my area there is a line in SBUX all day long... and the
new drive-thru located before office complex is mobbed until noon.
If recovery does in fact occur, SBUX will be fine... no one's going to
stop drinking this sh1t. People don't change just like that, and
everybody's addicted to caffeine.

Re: STARBUCKS STOCK IS OVERPRICED

ca.peabod...@gmail.com (cp) — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:26:02 UT

What's up, Ian... didn't mean to upset anyone with my dry and somewhat
demented approach.
I'm not worried about McD or DD... your right in that it's a
completely different demographic... Personally, I have not interest in
smelling french fries when I walk in to get a coffee at 7 am.
SBUX made a huge mistake by breaking out internationally and going