> On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> are used as an example of market neutral investing
> on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> with limited risk.

> The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> used to generate profits each month from
> NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> and maximize profit.

> Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> to achieve market neutral investing.

>            http://www.personalhedgefunds.com

> hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > with limited risk.

> > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > used to generate profits each month from
> > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > and maximize profit.

> > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > to achieve market neutral investing.

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> I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > with limited risk.

> > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > and maximize profit.

> > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > to achieve market neutral investing.

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> but do you think it will still be traded after Oct 1st??  from the re-
> org plan, it seems new equity will be issued, so would these FRNTQ
> shares be exchanged for the new equity?? or would FRNTQ still keep
> trading driven by market makers, even though it would have nothing to
> do with the new frontier inc?? I am surprised that if the shareholder
> equity is being wiped out, how come there is no lawsuit, no complaints
> to company's re-org plan -- how can the current shareholder just sit
> tight on thier asses and do nothing??

> On Sep 30, 7:58 am, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> > emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> > zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> > many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> > the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> > On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > > with limited risk.

> > > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > > and maximize profit.

> > > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > > to achieve market neutral investing.

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> I expect we will not loose our money, If its reorganization how can
> our shares wipe out.

> I have put lot of money in this, Don't know to hang on or leave.

> My avg price is .09 cents.

> On Sep 30, 12:05 pm, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > but do you think it will still be traded after Oct 1st??  from the re-
> > org plan, it seems new equity will be issued, so would these FRNTQ
> > shares be exchanged for the new equity?? or would FRNTQ still keep
> > trading driven by market makers, even though it would have nothing to
> > do with the new frontier inc?? I am surprised that if the shareholder
> > equity is being wiped out, how come there is no lawsuit, no complaints
> > to company's re-org plan -- how can the current shareholder just sit
> > tight on thier asses and do nothing??

> > On Sep 30, 7:58 am, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> > > emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> > > zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> > > many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> > > the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> > > On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > > > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > > > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > > > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > > > with limited risk.

> > > > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > > > and maximize profit.

> > > > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > > > to achieve market neutral investing.

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> Why is there buying going on when it's highly likely that this
> stock will be worth $0 tommorow?

> On Sep 30, 12:16 pm, Firststock <firststo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I expect we will not loose our money, If its reorganization how can
> > our shares wipe out.

> > I have put lot of money in this, Don't know to hang on or leave.

> > My avg price is .09 cents.

> > On Sep 30, 12:05 pm, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > but do you think it will still be traded after Oct 1st??  from the re-
> > > org plan, it seems new equity will be issued, so would these FRNTQ
> > > shares be exchanged for the new equity?? or would FRNTQ still keep
> > > trading driven by market makers, even though it would have nothing to
> > > do with the new frontier inc?? I am surprised that if the shareholder
> > > equity is being wiped out, how come there is no lawsuit, no complaints
> > > to company's re-org plan -- how can the current shareholder just sit
> > > tight on thier asses and do nothing??

> > > On Sep 30, 7:58 am, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> > > > emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> > > > zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> > > > many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> > > > the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> > > > On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > > > > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > > > > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > > > > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > > > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > > > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > > > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > > > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > > > > with limited risk.

> > > > > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > > > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > > > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > > > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > > > > and maximize profit.

> > > > > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > > > > to achieve market neutral investing.

> > > > > >            http://www.personalhedgefunds.com-Hidequotedtext-

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> I expect we will not loose our money, If its reorganization how can
> our shares wipe out.

> I have put lot of money in this, Don't know to hang on or leave.

> My avg price is .09 cents.

> On Sep 30, 12:05 pm, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > but do you think it will still be traded after Oct 1st??  from the re-
> > org plan, it seems new equity will be issued, so would these FRNTQ
> > shares be exchanged for the new equity?? or would FRNTQ still keep
> > trading driven by market makers, even though it would have nothing to
> > do with the new frontier inc?? I am surprised that if the shareholder
> > equity is being wiped out, how come there is no lawsuit, no complaints
> > to company's re-org plan -- how can the current shareholder just sit
> > tight on thier asses and do nothing??

> > On Sep 30, 7:58 am, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> > > emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> > > zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> > > many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> > > the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> > > On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > > > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > > > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > > > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > > > with limited risk.

> > > > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > > > and maximize profit.

> > > > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > > > to achieve market neutral investing.

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> You should've listened. Now, you will have lost your entire investment
> and are left with a probable tax deduction.

> On Sep 30, 12:16 pm, Firststock <firststo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I expect we will not loose our money, If its reorganization how can
> > our shares wipe out.

> > I have put lot of money in this, Don't know to hang on or leave.

> > My avg price is .09 cents.

> > On Sep 30, 12:05 pm, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > but do you think it will still be traded after Oct 1st??  from the re-
> > > org plan, it seems new equity will be issued, so would these FRNTQ
> > > shares be exchanged for the new equity?? or would FRNTQ still keep
> > > trading driven by market makers, even though it would have nothing to
> > > do with the new frontier inc?? I am surprised that if the shareholder
> > > equity is being wiped out, how come there is no lawsuit, no complaints
> > > to company's re-org plan -- how can the current shareholder just sit
> > > tight on thier asses and do nothing??

> > > On Sep 30, 7:58 am, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > I've been through this $0 dollar premise before with companies
> > > > emerging from their bankuptcy, and in most cases they don't go to
> > > > zero, and in fact eventually rise nicely. WAMUQ is one example among
> > > > many.  I wouldn't expect this to skyrocket, but it could get back to
> > > > the .08-.12 range in the near-term.

> > > > On Sep 30, 10:19 am, experio <vinayaror...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > hey if the FRNTQ stock will be worth $0 from Oct 1st as being
> > > > > discussed in all posts, how come the options are available till Jan
> > > > > 30th -- shouldn't there be NO options game going on after Oct 1st??

> > > > > On Sep 30, 6:48 am, hsimmons6...@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> > > > > > On 09/30/09 FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options ( FRNTQ )
> > > > > > are used as an example of market neutral investing
> > > > > > on PERSONALHEDGEFUNDS.COM.

> > > > > > Hedge fund managers use options to increase profits
> > > > > > with limited risk.

> > > > > > The FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC example shows how options
> > > > > > used to generate profits each month from
> > > > > > NOVEMBER 2009 TO JANUARY 2010

> > > > > > Hedge fund manages use this technique to limit loss
> > > > > > and maximize profit.

> > > > > > Check out how they use FRONTIER AIRLINES HOLDING INC options
> > > > > > to achieve market neutral investing.

> > > > > >            http://www.personalhedgefunds.com-Hidequotedtext-

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> http://www.frontierairlines.com/restructure/C1_Investor_FAQ.pdf

> Official Investor Relations Packet after they confirmed the
> restructure...it says in black ink that they expect NO VALUE upon
> emerging from Chap 11.  I lost money on this by not researching.  I
> hope you sold.  If there is value tomorrow then risk takers might be
> rewarded but I have to go with the ink.

> The problem with this black and white statement about "expect no
> value" is that it is legal boilerplate language, that is fidicuarily
> proper for them to say, but in reality companies still trade with
> value after emerging from Chapter 11.  Virtually all companies in this
> situation issue this statement. GM as GMGMQ has made this statement
> for months and yet it continued to trade up and down. Sometimes
> significantly up.  WAMUQ plus so many other examples exist.  So, it's
> my opinion that there will still be wiggle room to trade this stock
> and get out - perhaps even with a little profit.

> On Sep 30, 5:20 pm, stoic61 <recirc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://www.frontierairlines.com/restructure/C1_Investor_FAQ.pdf

> > Official Investor Relations Packet after they confirmed the
> > restructure...it says in black ink that they expect NO VALUE upon
> > emerging from Chap 11.  I lost money on this by not researching.  I
> > hope you sold.  If there is value tomorrow then risk takers might be
> > rewarded but I have to go with the ink.

> ecTrader makes a good point, but my experience is that stocks in such
> a position "wiggle" around 0.001 and 0.02.  I've been there before,
> and I'll tell you that even if you manage to make 2 cents per share
> you'll barely break even after you pay transaction costs to buy and
> sell.

> I'd to introduce people here to MCET.  This stock is not bankrupt and
> is moving fast (52% in two days).  After you get out of FRNTQ today
> and find yourself with $100 to buy something, consider MCET.  You
> might turn that $100 into $200 in  a few days with a new stock.  it
> probably won't help you recover all of your losses here, but something
> is better than nothing!

> On Sep 30, 5:55 pm, ecTrader <ecTrade...@aol.com> wrote:

> > The problem with this black and white statement about "expect no
> > value" is that it is legal boilerplate language, that is fidicuarily
> > proper for them to say, but in reality companies still trade with
> > value after emerging from Chapter 11.  Virtually all companies in this
> > situation issue this statement. GM as GMGMQ has made this statement
> > for months and yet it continued to trade up and down. Sometimes
> > significantly up.  WAMUQ plus so many other examples exist.  So, it's
> > my opinion that there will still be wiggle room to trade this stock
> > and get out - perhaps even with a little profit.

> > On Sep 30, 5:20 pm, stoic61 <recirc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >http://www.frontierairlines.com/restructure/C1_Investor_FAQ.pdf

> > > Official Investor Relations Packet after they confirmed the
> > > restructure...it says in black ink that they expect NO VALUE upon
> > > emerging from Chap 11.  I lost money on this by not researching.  I
> > > hope you sold.  If there is value tomorrow then risk takers might be
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