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From: 1busine...@kobashi.co.uk - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 11:18 am
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Investors will bring up WFR and the whole sector.

Time is an illusion as you saw AH

What went down will go up.

For every action there is an equal and opposite action.

I believe most in this sector care about their children's future.

ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR AMERICA

In the words of Braveheart.

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!1


From: 1busine...@kobashi.co.uk - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 12:01 pm
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We will keep America afloat.

Doesn't it amaze you. Financial are loosing Billions, the fed gave
America at tax rebate and now it's going to be taken away and more.

Solar and Wind Industry are helping to keep America afloat.

WE WON'T STICK A KNIFE IN OUR LIFERAFT!


From: traderonwal...@gmail.com - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 12:13 pm
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what the hell does this have to do with investing.  buy good
companies....short weak ones.

Which is WFR?????  look at the chart

No position in the stock, covered my short last night after the close
and this morning.


From: 1busine...@kobashi.co.uk - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 12:20 pm
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We need polysilicon and lots of it ASAP! WFR is a profitable company,
making polysilicon,  which is making millions. This has everything to
do with ethical investing.

We need energy creating and saving devices now ASAP!

As the price performance  gets better all consumers benefit and move
towards energy independence.

Exponential price performance will exceed any discounts.


From: traderonwal...@gmail.com - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 1:18 pm
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LOOK up C.I.G.S.

cheaper, less efficient, but key work is cheaper.  Also unlimited
amount as it inorganic and grown in a lab.

I wrote about that here months ago....


From: 1busine...@kobashi.co.uk - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 1:30 pm
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They have their application and I believe will not be similar in price
in 2010. There will be a time that polysilicon PV
will have a better cost performance ratio.

Saying this I want all Energy creating and saving device to succeed
ASAP.


From: aeuaeouaeou - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 1:58 pm
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CIGS uses indium.  Indium has gotten really expensive lately because
it's used for ITO (transparent conductor) for LCD displays.  It'll get
even more expensive when CIGS has to compete with ITO for very limited
supplies of it.

Also, while the CIGS modules are cheap, the installation costs (which
might be ~50% of the cost of a system) are more expensive because you
have to install more panels.


From: traderonwal...@gmail.com - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 3:51 pm
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Most of the polysilicon issues are due to lack of raw
materials....this is something CIGS does not face.

From: 1busine...@kobashi.co.uk - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 5:33 pm
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I understand your anger and frustration.

It's not going to be easy to change people minds who don't care about
anything but money, due to fear of not having enough or lack in
oneself that makes one feel one must oppress another to get ahead or
out of habit of the commercial consumer ideology.

At the end of the day it always comes back in some way like the giving
of a tax break then having to tax higher due to bailing out companies
that didn't work with prudence and were overcome by greed. Deflating
the dollar when commodity prices are rising. It makes no sense that Ex
treasury heads, and underwriters and Ceo's can short the same
institutions they profess to be helping or running.

But we must not alienate people. We must make them friends and get
them on our side.

Companies like WFR are the only thing holding America together and
it's sad that Americans as a whole don't seem know how to work
together.

We have a common purpose here to work to together on.

Sometimes things have to get so bad before people listen. It has to
hit them at home.

It will soon come with rising energy cost and with inflation comes
more crime. As we are unable to keep up with the rising population's
energy consumption, there will days, then weeks, then months when the
rich and poor cannot drive their cars. The economy will slow down
further.

The rich and poor will have to live with the same unhealthy world.
Breathing more carbonmonoxide and Co2 higher than in the last 7
iceages.

Melting ice caps are now creating colder streams of air and they are
mixing with and ever increasing equatorial heat. Giving cold periods
were it was once warmer and hot periods were it was once cooler. Once
enough ice is melted, increase heat from the sun will be absorbed by
the sea, the heat will turn up and the rest of the Methane will be
released. 10-years later we will go into an ice age.

We are already seeing Higher sea level surges , more flooding,
Tornadoes, hurricanes, famine.

Prices of food a soon to be out of the reach of most people. Aid
agencies have had to cut back on the supplies, due to cost. Our
economy and environment are out of balance.

Our one chance is Energy creating and saving devices.

Not only will they give us all the energy we need, we will have
cleaner air, and they will create the jobs needed to boost the
economy.

We will have a much more resilient energy system utilizing every home
and building to generate our energy needs through mass and micro
generation.

What I want to do with the money I make is buy from the companies that
I invested in their products and make my own Solar and wind farm.

I hope everyone else does the same.

It will free us from having to worry about energy any more. We can
then concentrate on creating enough food so no one will starve.

We can create an Utopian society for our children.

To avoid anarchy we must work together and say we can do this against
all odds.

Much progress has been done, we must not give up.

Many people are already cash positive using solar panels and wind
turbine to charge their electric cars.

As the cost of Polysilicon drops in 2010 there will be a huge up take
of solar systems, much like when cost performance of computers
increase their sales.

All new technologies take over the old this way.


From: desib...@gmail.com - view profile
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:23 pm
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1busine...@kobashi.co.uk wrote:

> As the cost of Polysilicon drops in 2010 there will be a huge up take
> of solar systems, much like when cost performance of computers
> increase their sales.

> All new technologies take over the old this way.

And thats wonderful. However, when the cost of polysilicon drops, WFR
will get killed, and you will be left holding the back. Hope is not a
part of the equation. Ethical investing does not make a difference in
the world. Profits does, and that will dictate the future of WFR.

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