> Guys and Gals,
> This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> pray not.

> What do you all think?

> I think you should stop worrying.

> On Nov 7, 10:40 am, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Guys and Gals,
> > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > pray not.

> > What do you all think?

> I think you should stop worrying.

> On Nov 7, 10:40 am, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Guys and Gals,
> > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > pray not.

> > What do you all think?- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Guys and Gals,
> This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> pray not.

> What do you all think?

> cjre - reread the Times article and look at my other post - did you
> see the mention of "But there are many more people who would like to
> be working full time and have been able to find only part-time
> work..."

> This is what I posted:

> Temp jobs get created first - Manpower and Career Builder have data
> you wouldn't believe - they can really get a handle on what positions
> are sought and what's being created.

> Bottom line always gets protected first - people get laid off not
> necessarily as a result of the recession but in anticipation of how it
> might affect the bottom line (you lay off workforce, when you
> anticipate possible fewer sales or sitting inventory).

> Inventory finally being replaced is cause to hire temporary staff -
> and the timing is pretty good, as it's the holiday season.  But the
> question is whether the growth can sustain itself or do you need more
> stimulus.

> There won't be more stimulus (we can't print anymore money b/c at some
> point we'll have fewer buying our debt) - but we also haven't spent
> all the stimulus yet (only about 10% has actually been spent, so don't
> let pundits panic you, there's more spending to come, unless Congress
> decides to rescind funds (let's hope not/not likely).

> Next year is all about reallocating and streamlining in my view.
> Stimulus aside, there are a number of programs that are up for
> reauthorization.  Oftentimes you will hear about a legislature or
> Chief Executive initiating a new program - perhaps a new block grant.
> What typically happens is the block grant is a consolidation of other
> existing programs and a reduction in the total amount ....

> ----------------------------------------
> What you read in the papers doesn't tell you where workers are being
> added.  Remember, for the first time since the correction, inventories
> are being replaced.

> On Nov 7, 1:40 pm, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Guys and Gals,
> > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > pray not.

> > What do you all think?

> cjre - read the G20 article carefully - when Geitner says "U.S.
> Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the "process of growth is now
> beginning" but warned that ending stimulus measures too early would be
> damaging to the economy." He's saying don't rescind what hasn't been
> spent yet - there's money that hasn't been spent.  Congress' mandate
> for the money was that it be spent quickly and effectively - there's
> suppose to be enough for 2 years and now we are entering year 2. When
> the President says he's looking in to more stimulus, he's basically
> looking at what the GAO evaluated the first time around and will try
> to get Congress to tack on additional funds to the spending that has
> produced results.

> This is not a "willy nilly" process and as I mentioned before, we're
> heading in to a new session of Congress.

> On Nov 8, 9:23 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > cjre - reread the Times article and look at my other post - did you
> > see the mention of "But there are many more people who would like to
> > be working full time and have been able to find only part-time
> > work..."

> > This is what I posted:

> > Temp jobs get created first - Manpower and Career Builder have data
> > you wouldn't believe - they can really get a handle on what positions
> > are sought and what's being created.

> > Bottom line always gets protected first - people get laid off not
> > necessarily as a result of the recession but in anticipation of how it
> > might affect the bottom line (you lay off workforce, when you
> > anticipate possible fewer sales or sitting inventory).

> > Inventory finally being replaced is cause to hire temporary staff -
> > and the timing is pretty good, as it's the holiday season.  But the
> > question is whether the growth can sustain itself or do you need more
> > stimulus.

> > There won't be more stimulus (we can't print anymore money b/c at some
> > point we'll have fewer buying our debt) - but we also haven't spent
> > all the stimulus yet (only about 10% has actually been spent, so don't
> > let pundits panic you, there's more spending to come, unless Congress
> > decides to rescind funds (let's hope not/not likely).

> > Next year is all about reallocating and streamlining in my view.
> > Stimulus aside, there are a number of programs that are up for
> > reauthorization.  Oftentimes you will hear about a legislature or
> > Chief Executive initiating a new program - perhaps a new block grant.
> > What typically happens is the block grant is a consolidation of other
> > existing programs and a reduction in the total amount ....

> > ----------------------------------------
> > What you read in the papers doesn't tell you where workers are being
> > added.  Remember, for the first time since the correction, inventories
> > are being replaced.

> > On Nov 7, 1:40 pm, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Guys and Gals,
> > > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > > pray not.

> > > What do you all think?- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> True. I am understanding these articles, but I wish they would
> actually help us out.

> On Nov 8, 6:32 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > cjre - read the G20 article carefully - when Geitner says "U.S.
> > Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the "process of growth is now
> > beginning" but warned that ending stimulus measures too early would be
> > damaging to the economy." He's saying don't rescind what hasn't been
> > spent yet - there's money that hasn't been spent.  Congress' mandate
> > for the money was that it be spent quickly and effectively - there's
> > suppose to be enough for 2 years and now we are entering year 2. When
> > the President says he's looking in to more stimulus, he's basically
> > looking at what the GAO evaluated the first time around and will try
> > to get Congress to tack on additional funds to the spending that has
> > produced results.

> > This is not a "willy nilly" process and as I mentioned before, we're
> > heading in to a new session of Congress.

> > On Nov 8, 9:23 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > cjre - reread the Times article and look at my other post - did you
> > > see the mention of "But there are many more people who would like to
> > > be working full time and have been able to find only part-time
> > > work..."

> > > This is what I posted:

> > > Temp jobs get created first - Manpower and Career Builder have data
> > > you wouldn't believe - they can really get a handle on what positions
> > > are sought and what's being created.

> > > Bottom line always gets protected first - people get laid off not
> > > necessarily as a result of the recession but in anticipation of how it
> > > might affect the bottom line (you lay off workforce, when you
> > > anticipate possible fewer sales or sitting inventory).

> > > Inventory finally being replaced is cause to hire temporary staff -
> > > and the timing is pretty good, as it's the holiday season.  But the
> > > question is whether the growth can sustain itself or do you need more
> > > stimulus.

> > > There won't be more stimulus (we can't print anymore money b/c at some
> > > point we'll have fewer buying our debt) - but we also haven't spent
> > > all the stimulus yet (only about 10% has actually been spent, so don't
> > > let pundits panic you, there's more spending to come, unless Congress
> > > decides to rescind funds (let's hope not/not likely).

> > > Next year is all about reallocating and streamlining in my view.
> > > Stimulus aside, there are a number of programs that are up for
> > > reauthorization.  Oftentimes you will hear about a legislature or
> > > Chief Executive initiating a new program - perhaps a new block grant.
> > > What typically happens is the block grant is a consolidation of other
> > > existing programs and a reduction in the total amount ....

> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > What you read in the papers doesn't tell you where workers are being
> > > added.  Remember, for the first time since the correction, inventories
> > > are being replaced.

> > > On Nov 7, 1:40 pm, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > Guys and Gals,
> > > > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > > > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > > > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > > > pray not.

> > > > What do you all think?- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> I always say this (thinking it's self explanatory), yet frequently
> find people saying - "what do you mean"

> Follow the money - follow the stimulus, follow the people buying
> shares of ETFC, etc.  Just follow the money and you should be able to
> see where decisions are being and made and of what type.  The market
> is rallying b/c everyone agrees the stimulus needs to continue (of
> course it's going to continue - follow the money and you'd know the
> term of the stimulus PLUS fat chance a democratic lead Congress is
> going to rescind that money).

> BUT watch oil - that's worrisome to me.  The Saudis are upping output,
> yet the price of crude is trending higher.  The only reason I would
> sell is if I thought there was going to be further destabilization in
> the mid east.  The big elephant in the room there is tension between
> Israel and Iran.

> On Nov 9, 11:11 am, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > True. I am understanding these articles, but I wish they would
> > actually help us out.

> > On Nov 8, 6:32 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > cjre - read the G20 article carefully - when Geitner says "U.S.
> > > Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the "process of growth is now
> > > beginning" but warned that ending stimulus measures too early would be
> > > damaging to the economy." He's saying don't rescind what hasn't been
> > > spent yet - there's money that hasn't been spent.  Congress' mandate
> > > for the money was that it be spent quickly and effectively - there's
> > > suppose to be enough for 2 years and now we are entering year 2. When
> > > the President says he's looking in to more stimulus, he's basically
> > > looking at what the GAO evaluated the first time around and will try
> > > to get Congress to tack on additional funds to the spending that has
> > > produced results.

> > > This is not a "willy nilly" process and as I mentioned before, we're
> > > heading in to a new session of Congress.

> > > On Nov 8, 9:23 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > cjre - reread the Times article and look at my other post - did you
> > > > see the mention of "But there are many more people who would like to
> > > > be working full time and have been able to find only part-time
> > > > work..."

> > > > This is what I posted:

> > > > Temp jobs get created first - Manpower and Career Builder have data
> > > > you wouldn't believe - they can really get a handle on what positions
> > > > are sought and what's being created.

> > > > Bottom line always gets protected first - people get laid off not
> > > > necessarily as a result of the recession but in anticipation of how it
> > > > might affect the bottom line (you lay off workforce, when you
> > > > anticipate possible fewer sales or sitting inventory).

> > > > Inventory finally being replaced is cause to hire temporary staff -
> > > > and the timing is pretty good, as it's the holiday season.  But the
> > > > question is whether the growth can sustain itself or do you need more
> > > > stimulus.

> > > > There won't be more stimulus (we can't print anymore money b/c at some
> > > > point we'll have fewer buying our debt) - but we also haven't spent
> > > > all the stimulus yet (only about 10% has actually been spent, so don't
> > > > let pundits panic you, there's more spending to come, unless Congress
> > > > decides to rescind funds (let's hope not/not likely).

> > > > Next year is all about reallocating and streamlining in my view.
> > > > Stimulus aside, there are a number of programs that are up for
> > > > reauthorization.  Oftentimes you will hear about a legislature or
> > > > Chief Executive initiating a new program - perhaps a new block grant.
> > > > What typically happens is the block grant is a consolidation of other
> > > > existing programs and a reduction in the total amount ....

> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > What you read in the papers doesn't tell you where workers are being
> > > > added.  Remember, for the first time since the correction, inventories
> > > > are being replaced.

> > > > On Nov 7, 1:40 pm, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > Guys and Gals,
> > > > > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > > > > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > > > > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > > > > pray not.

> > > > > What do you all think?- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Yes this is great advice. I like to follow the money. The stimulus is
> for sure helping, however, what goes up must come down. I hope not,
> but for now, let's enjoy the ride, it is a good one. People do want to
> work full time because of benefits. That cost more than anything and
> people need benefits more than money to live, I read in some
> articles.
> Oil is another story. I see that gas prices are rising this can be a
> bad thing.

> On Nov 9, 8:20 am, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I always say this (thinking it's self explanatory), yet frequently
> > find people saying - "what do you mean"

> > Follow the money - follow the stimulus, follow the people buying
> > shares of ETFC, etc.  Just follow the money and you should be able to
> > see where decisions are being and made and of what type.  The market
> > is rallying b/c everyone agrees the stimulus needs to continue (of
> > course it's going to continue - follow the money and you'd know the
> > term of the stimulus PLUS fat chance a democratic lead Congress is
> > going to rescind that money).

> > BUT watch oil - that's worrisome to me.  The Saudis are upping output,
> > yet the price of crude is trending higher.  The only reason I would
> > sell is if I thought there was going to be further destabilization in
> > the mid east.  The big elephant in the room there is tension between
> > Israel and Iran.

> > On Nov 9, 11:11 am, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > True. I am understanding these articles, but I wish they would
> > > actually help us out.

> > > On Nov 8, 6:32 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > cjre - read the G20 article carefully - when Geitner says "U.S.
> > > > Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the "process of growth is now
> > > > beginning" but warned that ending stimulus measures too early would be
> > > > damaging to the economy." He's saying don't rescind what hasn't been
> > > > spent yet - there's money that hasn't been spent.  Congress' mandate
> > > > for the money was that it be spent quickly and effectively - there's
> > > > suppose to be enough for 2 years and now we are entering year 2. When
> > > > the President says he's looking in to more stimulus, he's basically
> > > > looking at what the GAO evaluated the first time around and will try
> > > > to get Congress to tack on additional funds to the spending that has
> > > > produced results.

> > > > This is not a "willy nilly" process and as I mentioned before, we're
> > > > heading in to a new session of Congress.

> > > > On Nov 8, 9:23 pm, capn <l...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > cjre - reread the Times article and look at my other post - did you
> > > > > see the mention of "But there are many more people who would like to
> > > > > be working full time and have been able to find only part-time
> > > > > work..."

> > > > > This is what I posted:

> > > > > Temp jobs get created first - Manpower and Career Builder have data
> > > > > you wouldn't believe - they can really get a handle on what positions
> > > > > are sought and what's being created.

> > > > > Bottom line always gets protected first - people get laid off not
> > > > > necessarily as a result of the recession but in anticipation of how it
> > > > > might affect the bottom line (you lay off workforce, when you
> > > > > anticipate possible fewer sales or sitting inventory).

> > > > > Inventory finally being replaced is cause to hire temporary staff -
> > > > > and the timing is pretty good, as it's the holiday season.  But the
> > > > > question is whether the growth can sustain itself or do you need more
> > > > > stimulus.

> > > > > There won't be more stimulus (we can't print anymore money b/c at some
> > > > > point we'll have fewer buying our debt) - but we also haven't spent
> > > > > all the stimulus yet (only about 10% has actually been spent, so don't
> > > > > let pundits panic you, there's more spending to come, unless Congress
> > > > > decides to rescind funds (let's hope not/not likely).

> > > > > Next year is all about reallocating and streamlining in my view.
> > > > > Stimulus aside, there are a number of programs that are up for
> > > > > reauthorization.  Oftentimes you will hear about a legislature or
> > > > > Chief Executive initiating a new program - perhaps a new block grant.
> > > > > What typically happens is the block grant is a consolidation of other
> > > > > existing programs and a reduction in the total amount ....

> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > What you read in the papers doesn't tell you where workers are being
> > > > > added.  Remember, for the first time since the correction, inventories
> > > > > are being replaced.

> > > > > On Nov 7, 1:40 pm, cjre3 <cj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Guys and Gals,
> > > > > > This week should be a wild ride because of the news that came out
> > > > > > today about unemployment.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.htmlhttp://...

> > > > > > These stories alone can cancel all the DOW gains from last week. Let's
> > > > > > pray not.

> > > > > > What do you all think?- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -