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Bala  
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Anyone can explain why ETFC stocks are going down???

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vertical_limi...@hotmail.com  
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:28:57 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Lots of profit taking  wait until it drops low  4.75 range and buy -
then sell tommorow at 20% gain.  I've made over 50% profit on my
initial investment shorting the stock for the last few days.

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From: xoo...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:30:07 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
trader are playing it like a fiddle mate and they
are profiting both ways :))) good for them... i wish
i would have the stomach and know how:)...
under such hi volume they got it rocking at least
+ or - 10 to 15% per day and are making a killing
until dust settle..... imho trader got this stock by
the horns and riding it....

just my 2c....


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mon...@gmail.com  
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(2 users)  More options Nov 29 2007, 2:34 pm
From: mon...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:34:58 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Now that it's below 5, I'm guessing they're going to ride it back up
again.

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(3 users)  More options Nov 29 2007, 2:38 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:38:04 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Yes I can tell you cause sold at 5.50 and everybody followed.!

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From: Joe <zir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:43:03 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
 "Citadel is the clear winner in this transaction," said Bank of
America analyst Michael Hecht, in a research note entitled "Xmas comes
early for Citadel, shareholders get lump of coal."

Hecht said that Citadel's deal gives it a $3 billion asset backed
securities book for 27 cents on the dollar and $1.75 billion of
secured paper at 12.5 percent, and 84 million shares of stock "for
nothing."


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dcgrego...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 29 2007, 2:48 pm
From: dcgrego...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:48:08 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
That's the part I don't understand.

If the CDO's got written down further, they sure as hell weren't going
to get written down 70% of their value.

So why did they sell it for such a low price? Am I missing something?


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(1 user)  More options Nov 29 2007, 2:49 pm
From: allurban...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:49:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Dont you people set STOP LOSS ORDERS mine was hit at 5.75 and now I
will buy this one back at $4.00....I dont see the buyout getting more
than $8 a share.

Not only has Mitch Caplan stepped down but him and the board of
directors have made a terrible deal!  How dare they not care about the
stockholders!

I though Mitch was much smarter than this....but as always everyone
just looks out for their own bank accounts


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 More options Nov 29 2007, 2:35 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:35:49 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Giving me dam heart attack over here!!!!

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 More options Nov 29 2007, 2:41 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:41:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Anyone has a good guess on way E trade is acting up?

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 More options Nov 29 2007, 2:51 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:51:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Best guess why its going down?

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(1 user)  More options Nov 29 2007, 3:03 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:03:07 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
the press release update says

"Hecht said shareholders, in contrast "suffer (more than) 40 percent
earnings per share dilution and 100 percent tangible equity dilution."

No buy out is happening ... shares diluted


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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:08 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:08:19 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
E*Trade disclosed that retail client assets have fallen 15 percent in
the month, but Lilien said it hopes to win back much of that business.
As of November 27, retail client assets were $192 billion compared
with $226.7 billion on October 31.


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(1 user)  More options Nov 29 2007, 3:10 pm
From: skittles <lalit...@uncc.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:10:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
never fear, etfc will go back up tomorrow in pre trading hours after
bernake indicates a rate cut tonight

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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:12 pm
From: xerosl...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:12:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
So this stock isn't worth even $5 a share now with all that?? This
company has to be worth more than that still. The stock may have been
diluted but it's already taken a huge dip from it's previous high
months ago. Surely that must have more than made up for what the
company is worth now?

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popoyethesailor...@gmail.com  
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From: popoyethesailor...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:14:52 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
wow...! my heart just stopped beating ..and its barely managing now.!!
i observed it carefully rising..analyzing the day trade ranges...and
sold twice with profits. and then it bought it at $5.50 thinking it
would "ofcourse" last till 6..MY BAD.... i have 1150 stocks at $5.50
now..and a pileof losses!  Painful.. could anyone suggest if holding
on is better than
stop loss now (at $4.80-4.90)?
Pre market seems a little promising tomorrow. Could some one please
help and tell me what does it really mean by "shares diluted"..?

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(1 user)  More options Nov 29 2007, 3:19 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:19:57 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
Depends on how long you want to hold it.  I'm not sure what to say in
the short term, but I'd be willing to bet you'll more than recover in
the coming months.  Any thoughts?


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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:23 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:23:50 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
It could be worse. You could have 4,500 shares like me lol. At
$5.56....


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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:28 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:28:35 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
simpy put (very simply) if you divide one dollar by 1 million shares
it works out to one number, if you divide one dollar by 10 million
units, it works out to a much smaller number. In other words the value
per unit has been diluted.


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popoyethesailor...@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:29 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:29:15 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
seriously.! i hope it goes up in the next trading session. Well we
still have about 25 min. but i really don't expect to see much action
in the remaining time. Lets keep our fingers crossed. But seriously.
what the FUDGE....these big investors manipulate so easily during a
good news situation.(I am guessing its them!) or probably dilution.

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 More options Nov 29 2007, 3:31 pm
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:31:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
The long-term impact of the Citadel deal -- an extra $1.7 billion in
debt, a charge of over $2 billion on toxic debt and an extra 515.6
million shares of stock. Talk about dilution. What's the REAL value of
this stock now?

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:31:16 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
or 1359 shares like me at 6.30 ... I have overrisked into this
position before carefully reading what kind of deal was Citadel giving
ETFC...

but somehow I am very much confident that I can double it if I hold it
for atleast 12 months from now.


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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:31:19 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
thanks! dilution cant be good..shit i never got hit by dilution
before..it painful.!! lol.!

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:35:15 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING
1,000 shares @ 6.03...  Make it stop!!!

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:35:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ANY BODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY ETFC IS FALLING

popoyethesailor...@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks! dilution cant be good..shit i never got hit by dilution
> before..it painful.!! lol.!

Sort of like a reverse split. A 20% dilution means that 1 share is now
0.8 share.

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