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 More options Nov 23 2009, 5:21 pm
From: JOSEPH <josepha.boyl...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:21:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 5:21 pm
Subject: Look for close about $4.39 with Volume
This is a perfect set-up to break $5.00 over the next month.

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 More options Nov 23 2009, 6:58 pm
From: 77 always <7777alw...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:58:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Look for close about $4.39 with Volume

Check out ECOS. It will bring 10 times more.

This is copied from Yahoo message board:

As I said before on this board my mission is to bring you accurate
info. I said that the company would bring you news today and they
did.
Just go to their website.

Summary:

A. ED is at least 8x of lead acid battery, or at least 2.5x of
lithium
ion battery. This is similar to that of EESTOR's EESU.
B. 2000 to 4000 full cycle life (EESTOR's EESU lasts >1,000,000
cycles), which is good enough for EVs. Our engineer told me that they
had been testing a CNT battery for more than 1000 cycles and he saw
no
degradation whatsoever yet
C. 20+ years of calendar life?
D. 5 to 10 minutes of recharging time (EESTOR's EESU is 3 to 5
minutes). Most drivers should be pretty happy with this quickness.
E.Manufacturing cost is similar to lead acid battery. Only adding a
slight premium. In the mean time, energy desity is more than 8 fold
as
much.
F. Power density (discharge rate) can't be compared with EESU, but is
many times that of a conventional lead acid battery. What this means:
a Tesla can travel 250 miles but at 30 miles per hour; but for a car
powered by equivalent CNT battery, the car can travel 250 miles even
at >60 miles per hour!!!!
G. Because of dramatic reduction in internal resistance, CNT battery
eliminates combustibility and short circuit problems. This is
critical
for car and bike safety as we absolutely don't want the batteries to
catch fire or even explode in a crash.

Regarding the manufacturing cost of CNT battery, assuming the
manufacturing cost of a conventional lead acid battery is about $55/
kwh, and that using CNT nano technology adds a premium of 30%, and
since the battery capacity got 8x boost, so the final cost should be
roughly 55x1.3/8 = $9/kwh. But the actual ED of a CNT golf cart
battery is 12.5x of that of a typical lead acid battery. So that
actual manufacturing cost should be much lower than $9/kwh.

BYD plans to introduce e6 (all electric car) to the US market in
2010.
Both BYD and A123Systems produce LiFePO4 batteries because of its
much
better safety (although ED is lower) than Lithium Ion (which tends to
explode), and because of its 2000+ cycle life.
The ED for a typical lead acid battery is about 30 to 40 wh/kg only,
while Trojan batteries are much better than the norm.

Assuming the manufacturing cost of EESU is $55/kwh, the manufacturing
cost of CNT batteries is roughly 1/6 of EESU's.
EcoloCap only charges 1/3 price of lithium battery for providing CNT
batteries to a Chinese auto maker. This price is pound for pound,
meaning that 500 lbs of CNT batteries for 500 lbs of lithium
batteries. Since ED of CNT battery is roughly 3.7x that of lithium
battery, and assuming the cost for the lithium battery is about $400,
the acutual cost of CNT battery for this Chinese auto maker should be
about 400 / 3 / 3.7 = $36/kwh. But considering the cell-to-cell-match
requirement for EV batteries is very high, this slight premium is
understandable. Once the production volume picks up, the price will
go
down significantly.
We saw a report saying that auto makers really want batteries for EVs
to cost less than $87/kwh; so EESU is not quite there yet, but CNT
battery would make auto makers very happy and make EVs truely
affordable to the big mass even without any government grant's. We
believe ecolocap's CNT battery has a better chance to be a game
changer to the auto/bike industry - imagine a 50KWH CNT battery
costing less than $1,500!
Because EESUs can work in -20c to 65c and it has >1,000,000 cycle
life, it can still find lots of applications in high-end cars,
military vechicles, grid leveling, etc, etc. Both CNT batteries and
EESUs will thrive - but EESU can't kill all chemical batteries yet in
a long while. Ecolocap's cnt-battery can!

EcoloCap's stock market cap is only $20 million, how much do you
think
it should be worth? $200 million? $2 billions? or more? or less? Even
ZENN worths $200 million, and A123System worths $2 billions.

On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, JOSEPH <josepha.boyl...@gmail.com> wrote:


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