> You don't seem to know what you are talking about either. A marketcap
> of 100B is too high for C? Do you know how to read a balance sheet? C
> holds over a trillion in assets, C is a gigantic company, and the BOOK
> value of their equity is far above what they are trading at now, and
> will remain far above what they are trading at even through dilution.
> IMO the dilution scare is already priced in, the offering is a good
> idea for INVESTORS, it's bad for shorters and day traders like
> yourself.  The problem with your method is there is nothing behind it
> but speculation and fear tactics, I know what I own, and once this
> offering happens C will pay back the gov't for TARP, then over the
> course of a year or so the gov't will be unloading shares, and the
> company I own will be a $20 stock.  C is a profitable company, they
> are the largest bank in America and a global powerhouse which both
> hedges their risk against the U.S. economy as well as provides
> guaranteed solvency (you think the U.S. gov't would ever let it fail,
> even if it were going to be put in a position to fail?)

> People who don't know anything about this company need to stop posting
> on here, they're wasting their time and it's clearly nothing but fear
> tactics.

> C may crash down to 3.50 before skyrocketing back up, I don't know if
> it will or won't, but that's the point, I don't know and neither do
> you, so stop claiming you have the answers (goes for Pig, Joe, and
> anyone else trying to scare people with outlandish claims).  C may
> just as well start picking up tomorrow...Mr. Market will offer you
> prices for your company every single day, and if you want to be
> successful investor you need to ignore these day to day fluctuations
> that are caused by little school girls posing as investors, this isn't
> something coming from me, it's coming from Ben Graham (Warren Buffet's
> Professor).

> On Dec 10, 1:44 pm, Joe Crash <waveman.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > remember the stress tests? which banks could survive a 8% unemployment
> > number? we are at 10%

> > and now the IMF is calling banks to raise their reserves again for
> > more losses.
> > The trick for banks will be, which ones will survive.

> > I don't buy the recovery BS. At max a stagnation. And even that is
> > very dangerous.

> > On Dec 10, 10:38 pm, eGenerations <nathaniel.bri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I'm no pro in this area, but I'm long Citi - from the little that I do
> > > know... history repeats itself.  Now while Citi may not be all that it
> > > once was, it certainly will be more valued tomorrow than it is today
> > > (by tomorrow I mean down the road)

> > > 2010 should provide Citi stock holders with some considerable
> > > upside... part of me is glad it's not happening as fast as
> > > BAC...because I day traded BAC, and missed the biggest moves possible
> > > by simply sitting on my 3$ buy-ins

> > > I say buy and squat on Citi

> > > On Dec 10, 2:29 pm, Bijan <bijanbehes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I just calculated, if they add 11 Billion shares (WAY more than they
> > > > will add)

> > > > We'll still be at a Book Value of $4.17 a share...this stock should be
> > > > trading at $7 even after heavy dilution, sell sell sell and wet your
> > > > pants cowards, the rest of us will pick up bargains.- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> We'll still be at a Book Value of $4.17 a share...this stock should be
> trading at $7 even after heavy dilution, sell sell sell and wet your
> pants cowards, the rest of us will pick up bargains.

> On Dec 10, 3:12 pm, bobby duder <bobbydu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I appreciate your enthusiasm because I'm long on C, but $20 in 2010 is
> > way too much. Shorters resort to hyperbole (like Joe Crash, for
> > example). Those who know better do not need such childish methods.
> > Simply recommend the stock as a buy and move on.
> > Like this:
> > BUY BUY BUY!!!

> > On Dec 10, 5:23 pm, Citigroupfan <johandebro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Citigroup, Inc. trading @ $20USD. in 2010, thanks to Citigroup, Inc.
> > > Financial WorldPower!

> > >http://www.kyiv-capital.com.ua-Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Shared article:
> {"We are not prepared to have this money come back in a way that would
> leave the system or these institutions with inadequate capital to face
> their challenges ahead," he said during a Congressional Oversight
> Panel hearing on the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

> But for Citigroup Inc. (C 3.89, +0.02, +0.52%)  that may not be a
> problem, analysts said Thursday.

> Citi reportedly plans to raise $20 billion selling new equity to help
> the giant bank buy back trust preferred securities it sold to the
> government via TARP. See about Citi's possible TARP exit.

> At the same time, the government will probably sell the 7.6 billion
> common shares of Citi it currently holds, extricating the bank from
> taxpayer ownership, according to J.P. Morgan Chase analyst Vivek
> Juneja.

> If Citi pulls this off, the bank's capital ratios will be among the
> highest of any large U.S. bank, Juneja and other analysts said
> Thursday.

> "They've already got very strong capital ratios," Jeff Harte, a
> banking analyst at Sandler O'Neill, said in an interview.}
> source :MarketWatch

> Citi's Tier 1 common capital ratio, a closely watched measure of the
> capital of publicly traded banks, stood at 9.1% at the end of the
> third quarter, Harte noted.

> On Dec 10, 3:58 pm, Joe Crash <waveman.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > After all the BS that they have enough cash, they now come up with the
> > fact they will need AT least 15 biljion (shareholders won't allow
> > more) from the shareholders to repay. That means the just don't have
> > any money!!!

> > And why?

> > BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PAY BONUSES!!

> > They don't have any money, it's not even hard to read between the
> > lines.

> > On Dec 10, 9:54 pm, YARDOMAN <yardom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > They have been in the news for a while now, all year. Are they able to
> > > work things out and get back to their early 2000's peak prices? Who is
> > > long on Citi?

> On Dec 10, 3:12 pm, bobby duder <bobbydu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I appreciate your enthusiasm because I'm long on C, but $20 in 2010 is
> > way too much. Shorters resort to hyperbole (like Joe Crash, for
> > example). Those who know better do not need such childish methods.
> > Simply recommend the stock as a buy and move on.
> > Like this:
> > BUY BUY BUY!!!

> > On Dec 10, 5:23 pm, Citigroupfan <johandebro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Citigroup, Inc. trading @ $20USD. in 2010, thanks to Citigroup, Inc.
> > > Financial WorldPower!

> > >http://www.kyiv-capital.com.ua-Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> And why?

> BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PAY BONUSES!!

> They don't have any money, it's not even hard to read between the
> lines.

> On Dec 10, 9:54 pm, YARDOMAN <yardom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > They have been in the news for a while now, all year. Are they able to
> > work things out and get back to their early 2000's peak prices? Who is
> > long on Citi?

> On Dec 10, 5:23 pm, Citigroupfan <johandebro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Citigroup, Inc. trading @ $20USD. in 2010, thanks to Citigroup, Inc.
> > Financial WorldPower!

> >http://www.kyiv-capital.com.ua- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Hey, if BAC will have such a rebound- maybe you should buy some
> calls....eh... puts. Eh... What ever! hahahhaaa....

> On Dec 10, 2:51 pm, Joe Crash <waveman.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ....

> > Bac will make a comeback in 2010, but C will have to do a RS after
> > this one.
> ....

> > > - Show quoted text -

> On Dec 10, 11:25 pm, "A. Ron" <arlige...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > AIG behaved that way because an analyst said in June that there was a
> > 70% chance that they had 0 equity.

> > The fact that a reverse split happened to occur at that time was
> > coincidental. There are stocks that didn't have a monumental crash
> > after
> > doing a reverse split. UIS is one of them.

> > Apparently you have incomplete information.

> > On Dec 10, 4:49 pm, MadKipper <madkippe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Hmmm... I have to agree with Joe Crash, anybody with cash should wait
> > > until the reverse-split comes as we knew it would, but now it is only
> > > a matter of time.
> > > Who remembers the RS of AIG this summer?
> > > WOW!  It opens around $12 (should have been about 20x or something!)
> > > then jumps to $18, then down, then up, and closes around $10!
> > > A Citigroup person said the dynamics would be different this time
> > > around - but surely the dynamics are the same - this is stock on the
> > > big market with big questions asked about the reliability of the value
> > > of the stock.....so I reckon we'll see a similar pattern of trading
> > > when the RS comes.....
> > > Let's hope so... for the sake of easy money and a cheap buy-in price.
> > > Happy trading...! :)- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Know what your time line is and just don't look at the share price
> like Buffett said if this helps.  "Buy a share when you did your
> research and go to sleep.".

> On Dec 10, 6:02 pm, Yatta <jonloo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Bijan Jooneh Kir Bozorg, I hope you are right.  I have a lot of money
> > riding on this stock and my keer will explode if the share price
> > doesn't go up.

> > On Dec 10, 2:38 pm, Bijan <bijanbehes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > It seems pretty obvious that you have a short position on C and are
> > > terrified of the fact that C might not crash Joe Crash.

> > > You don't seem to know what you are talking about either. A marketcap
> > > of 100B is too high for C? Do you know how to read a balance sheet? C
> > > holds over a trillion in assets, C is a gigantic company, and the BOOK
> > > value of their equity is far above what they are trading at now, and
> > > will remain far above what they are trading at even through dilution.
> > > IMO the dilution scare is already priced in, the offering is a good
> > > idea for INVESTORS, it's bad for shorters and day traders like
> > > yourself.  The problem with your method is there is nothing behind it
> > > but speculation and fear tactics, I know what I own, and once this
> > > offering happens C will pay back the gov't for TARP, then over the
> > > course of a year or so the gov't will be unloading shares, and the
> > > company I own will be a $20 stock.  C is a profitable company, they
> > > are the largest bank in America and a global powerhouse which both
> > > hedges their risk against the U.S. economy as well as provides
> > > guaranteed solvency (you think the U.S. gov't would ever let it fail,
> > > even if it were going to be put in a position to fail?)

> > > People who don't know anything about this company need to stop posting
> > > on here, they're wasting their time and it's clearly nothing but fear
> > > tactics.

> > > C may crash down to 3.50 before skyrocketing back up, I don't know if
> > > it will or won't, but that's the point, I don't know and neither do
> > > you, so stop claiming you have the answers (goes for Pig, Joe, and
> > > anyone else trying to scare people with outlandish claims).  C may
> > > just as well start picking up tomorrow...Mr. Market will offer you
> > > prices for your company every single day, and if you want to be
> > > successful investor you need to ignore these day to day fluctuations
> > > that are caused by little school girls posing as investors, this isn't
> > > something coming from me, it's coming from Ben Graham (Warren Buffet's
> > > Professor).

> > > On Dec 10, 1:44 pm, Joe Crash <waveman.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > remember the stress tests? which banks could survive a 8% unemployment
> > > > number? we are at 10%

> > > > and now the IMF is calling banks to raise their reserves again for
> > > > more losses.
> > > > The trick for banks will be, which ones will survive.

> > > > I don't buy the recovery BS. At max a stagnation. And even that is
> > > > very dangerous.

> > > > On Dec 10, 10:38 pm, eGenerations <nathaniel.bri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > I'm no pro in this area, but I'm long Citi - from the little that I do
> > > > > know... history repeats itself.  Now while Citi may not be all that it
> > > > > once was, it certainly will be more valued tomorrow than it is today
> > > > > (by tomorrow I mean down the road)

> > > > > 2010 should provide Citi stock holders with some considerable
> > > > > upside... part of me is glad it's not happening as fast as
> > > > > BAC...because I day traded BAC, and missed the biggest moves possible
> > > > > by simply sitting on my 3$ buy-ins

> > > > > I say buy and squat on Citi

> > > > > On Dec 10, 2:29 pm, Bijan <bijanbehes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > I just calculated, if they add 11 Billion shares (WAY more than they
> > > > > > will add)

> > > > > > We'll still be at a Book Value of $4.17 a share...this stock should be
> > > > > > trading at $7 even after heavy dilution, sell sell sell and wet your
> > > > > > pants cowards, the rest of us will pick up bargains.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -

> On Dec 10, 2:38 pm, Bijan <bijanbehes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > It seems pretty obvious that you have a short position on C and are
> > terrified of the fact that C might not crash Joe Crash.

> > You don't seem to know what you are talking about either. A marketcap
> > of 100B is too high for C? Do you know how to read a balance sheet? C
> > holds over a trillion in assets, C is a gigantic company, and the BOOK
> > value of their equity is far above what they are trading at now, and
> > will remain far above what they are trading at even through dilution.
> > IMO the dilution scare is already priced in, the offering is a good
> > idea for INVESTORS, it's bad for shorters and day traders like
> > yourself.  The problem with your method is there is nothing behind it
> > but speculation and fear tactics, I know what I own, and once this
> > offering happens C will pay back the gov't for TARP, then over the
> > course of a year or so the gov't will be unloading shares, and the
> > company I own will be a $20 stock.  C is a profitable company, they
> > are the largest bank in America and a global powerhouse which both
> > hedges their risk against the U.S. economy as well as provides
> > guaranteed solvency (you think the U.S. gov't would ever let it fail,
> > even if it were going to be put in a position to fail?)

> > People who don't know anything about this company need to stop posting
> > on here, they're wasting their time and it's clearly nothing but fear
> > tactics.

> > C may crash down to 3.50 before skyrocketing back up, I don't know if
> > it will or won't, but that's the point, I don't know and neither do
> > you, so stop claiming you have the answers (goes for Pig, Joe, and
> > anyone else trying to scare people with outlandish claims).  C may
> > just as well start picking up tomorrow...Mr. Market will offer you
> > prices for your company every single day, and if you want to be
> > successful investor you need to ignore these day to day fluctuations
> > that are caused by little school girls posing as investors, this isn't
> > something coming from me, it's coming from Ben Graham (Warren Buffet's
> > Professor).

> > On Dec 10, 1:44 pm, Joe Crash <waveman.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > remember the stress tests? which banks could survive a 8% unemployment
> > > number? we are at 10%

> > > and now the IMF is calling banks to raise their reserves again for
> > > more losses.
> > > The trick for banks will be, which ones will survive.

> > > I don't buy the recovery BS. At max a stagnation. And even that is
> > > very dangerous.

> > > On Dec 10, 10:38 pm, eGenerations <nathaniel.bri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I'm no pro in this area, but I'm long Citi - from the little that I do
> > > > know... history repeats itself.  Now while Citi may not be all that it
> > > > once was, it certainly will be more valued tomorrow than it is today
> > > > (by tomorrow I mean down the road)

> > > > 2010 should provide Citi stock holders with some considerable
> > > > upside... part of me is glad it's not happening as fast as
> > > > BAC...because I day traded BAC, and missed the biggest moves possible
> > > > by simply sitting on my 3$ buy-ins

> > > > I say buy and squat on Citi

> > > > On Dec 10, 2:29 pm, Bijan <bijanbehes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > I just calculated, if they add 11 Billion shares (WAY more than they
> > > > > will add)

> > > > > We'll still be at a Book Value of $4.17 a share...this stock should be
> > > > > trading at $7 even after heavy dilution, sell sell sell and wet your
> > > > > pants cowards, the rest of us will pick up bargains.- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -