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> On Jul 4, 8:40 pm, Woody Woodpeck <dothea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No, its because of the noise, those Koi sure are dumb fish
> > On Jul 4, 8:36 pm, Kerry <kerryrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What the H? Are they doing that bc of the light?
> > > On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, Woody Woodpeck <dothea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_fUmx-HI0Q
> > > > On Jul 4, 7:48 pm, Kerry <kerryrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > uhm.
> > > > > On Jul 4, 8:42 pm, Woody Woodpeck <dothea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCS5C3UkmMI
> > > > > > On Jul 4, 7:25 pm, Kerry <kerryrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Koi so angry make suckyfucky long time
> > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7EPWSsr1Lg
> > > > > > > On Jul 4, 8:22 pm, Kerry <kerryrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Angry WAMU bagholders make grassroots protests on social networking
> > > > > > > > site:
> > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8kpUPlLa58&NR=1
> > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 8:20 pm, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > And base on this :
> > > > > > > > > As Bernard Madoff passes time as inmate No. 61727-054 in the
> > > > > > > > > Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, questions about
> > > > > > > > > his giant scheme continue to dog investigators and the public. Among
> > > > > > > > > them is the curious relationship Madoff had with his bank, JPMorgan
> > > > > > > > > Chase.
> > > > > > > > > Related
> > > > > > > > > Special Report
> > > > > > > > > 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
> > > > > > > > > Photos
> > > > > > > > > The Demise of Bernard Madoff
> > > > > > > > > Video
> > > > > > > > > Madoff Pleads Guilty
> > > > > > > > > More Related
> > > > > > > > > Irving Picard at Center of Post-Madoff Storm
> > > > > > > > > How Madoff’s Feeder Funds Stole My Retirement
> > > > > > > > > Wall Street’s Latest Downfall: Madoff Charged with Fraud
> > > > > > > > > Madoff never used his asset-management money to trade securities,
> > > > > > > > > court documents show. Instead, he largely kept it in his Chase account
> > > > > > > > > for years. Though Chase bankers never raised a red flag, another arm
> > > > > > > > > of Chase did have suspicions about Madoff, and that raises questions.
> > > > > > > > > (See pictures of the demise of Bernard Madoff.)
> > > > > > > > > The Chase account, Madoff said in court in mid-March, was used to
> > > > > > > > > shuttle money back and forth between his U.S. and London operations,
> > > > > > > > > to make it appear he was executing trades in European markets, as he
> > > > > > > > > told federal regulators. Madoff made no trades at all with his Chase
> > > > > > > > > account, but rather just collected investor monies, wrote checks to
> > > > > > > > > investors, and took money for himself. In court, Madoff pleaded guilty
> > > > > > > > > to 11 counts of fraud, from wire transfer to money-laundering.
> > > > > > > > > One puzzler for money chasers in Madoff's $65 billion Ponzi is why the
> > > > > > > > > multibillion-dollar bank account he kept at Chase never came under
> > > > > > > > > suspicion by internal bank compliance systems or managers in charge of
> > > > > > > > > Madoff's account. (Watch TIME's video about Madoff's trial.)
> > > > > > > > > When it comes to technology that scans for fraud, today's detection
> > > > > > > > > systems are largely focused on identity theft, hackers and account
> > > > > > > > > anomalies, according to Don Jackson, director of threat intelligence
> > > > > > > > > for Atlanta-based SecureWorks, information-security experts on
> > > > > > > > > financial cyberthreat. "The problem with financial-fraud technology is
> > > > > > > > > that it's only as good as how it's set up," Jackson says. "If it's set
> > > > > > > > > up for a high-volume and multiple-wire-transfers account, then it
> > > > > > > > > won't reveal anything strange when there's lots of activity, like
> > > > > > > > > Madoff's account. The only way to stop this kind of fraud is for the
> > > > > > > > > bank to know its client better and to report things that might be
> > > > > > > > > suspicious. It really comes down to human control."
> > > > > > > > > One thing that should have raised suspicions is that the bank's review
> > > > > > > > > of its own investments caused it to pull $250 million from a Madoff
> > > > > > > > > feeder fund, Fairfield Greenwich, just months before Madoff was
> > > > > > > > > arrested. Chase took this action because it became "concerned about
> > > > > > > > > the lack of transparency," and its due diligence "raised doubts" about
> > > > > > > > > Madoff's operation.
> > > > > > > > > The notion a bank can be concerned about investments with Madoff and
> > > > > > > > > then be unconcerned by the same man's vast sums of cash flowing in and
> > > > > > > > > out of the same bank has experts and lawyers still shaking their
> > > > > > > > > heads. Others see it as a classic breakdown between technology and the
> > > > > > > > > human factor.
> > > > > > > > > One lawyer, Howard Kleinhendler, of Wachtel & Masyr LLP, is following
> > > > > > > > > the money trail and believes Madoff's Chase account was "suspicious"
> > > > > > > > > and should have been shut down the moment the bank pulled its funds
> > > > > > > > > from Fairfield Greenwich. Kleinhendler represents a dozen Madoff
> > > > > > > > > victims. (Read "Madoff Victims Look for Ways to Recover Their Money.")
> > > > > > > > > Moreover, Kleinhendler believes Chase abruptly pulled its $250 million
> > > > > > > > > in August, when, he says, "it learned from Bear Stearns executives
> > > > > > > > > that Madoff's investments were phony." JPMorgan Chase acquired Bear
> > > > > > > > > Stearns in March 2008. "Bear Stearns had done deals with Madoff. They
> > > > > > > > > were on boards together," Kleinhendler says, and therefore, he posits,
> > > > > > > > > perhaps executives at Bear knew Madoff's business was fishy and tipped
> > > > > > > > > the bank off.
> > > > > > > > > Chase asserts that its withdrawal was normal procedure. The bank
> > > > > > > > > withdrew the $250 million when it "became concerned about the lack of
> > > > > > > > > transparency to some questions we posed as part of our review," said
> > > > > > > > > Chase spokeswoman Kristin Lemkau in a January 2008 New York Times
> > > > > > > > > article. A Chase spokesman did not comment further. Fairfield had no
> > > > > > > > > comment.
> > > > > > > > > The International Money Laundering Abatement and Financial Anti-
> > > > > > > > > Terrorism Act of 2001 makes it illegal for a bank to accept funds it
> > > > > > > > > knows, or has reason to believe, were derived from fraud. In addition,
> > > > > > > > > it's obliged to report its suspicions to authorities. A tangle of
> > > > > > > > > federal and state agencies could investigate such potential banking
> > > > > > > > > duplicity, but for national banks like JPMorgan Chase the first
> > > > > > > > > overseer is the Department of the Treasury's Office of the Comptroller
> > > > > > > > > of Currency. OCC examiners conduct on-site reviews of national banks
> > > > > > > > > and provide supervision of bank operations. For OCC to investigate, it
> > > > > > > > > must first get a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) from the Financial
> > > > > > > > > Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), also part of Treasury. But for
> > > > > > > > > FinCEN to act, it must receive a confidential SAR from a bank. No
> > > > > > > > > report, no investigation. In the case of JPMorgan Chase, SARs are
> > > > > > > > > issued by the director of global anti-money-laundering, William
> > > > > > > > > Langford. Langford was not available for comment. Spokesmen for both
> > > > > > > > > OCC and FinCEN could not comment.
> > > > > > > > > To a nonbanker, what quickly becomes apparent is that the elaborate
> > > > > > > > > and formal process for banks' reporting suspicious characters makes it
> > > > > > > > > quite possible that a quiet, close-to-the-vest player like Madoff who
> > > > > > > > > is not part of any global crime syndicate could operate comfortably
> > > > > > > > > for a long time and have a happy bank as his unwitting accomplice.
> > > > > > > > > Perhaps in this new push to reform bank practices, that process is
> > > > > > > > > worth revisiting.
> > > > > > > > > Robert Chew is a former investor with Madoff via a feeder fund. He
> > > > > > > > > lives in Colorado.
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 5:09 pm, cool daddy o <technl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > So again......
> > > > > > > > > > WaMu win Justice will send BAC to $30 - 40
> > > > > > > > > > So based on the wamu scandal you think bac is going to 30 or 40?
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 7:17 pm, cool daddy o <technl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > WaMu win Justice will send BAC to $30 - 40
> > > > > > > > > > > So based on the wamu scandal you think bac is going to 30 or 40?
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 4:08 pm, Woody Woodpeck <dothea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > dumbass
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 11:54 am, Woody Woodpeck <dothea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > haaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 10:53 am, koi <takamiyada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WaMuhttp://www.patenthawk.com/blog/2009/04/wamu.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington Mutual (WaMu) is a poster child of the mortgage-lending
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