> This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> Arabia bake!

> CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> generation efficiency.

> See Efficiency:

> http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> Cheers:)
> Tallbobsmoke

> TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > Hint: Fuel Cells.

> This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> Arabia bake!

> CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> generation efficiency.

> See Efficiency:

> http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> Cheers:)
> Tallbobsmoke

> TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > Hint: Fuel Cells.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> On Oct 22, 3:23 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > $CPST 25% efficeincy at 120F?

> > This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> > So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> > it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> > And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> > it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> > maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> > CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> > Arabia bake!

> > CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> > temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> > $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> > electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> > Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> > fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> > generation efficiency.

> > See Efficiency:

> >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> > This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> > the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> > mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> > Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> > to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> > Cheers:)
> > Tallbobsmoke

> > TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > > Hint: Fuel Cells.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/Investors%20Business%20Daily%209-...

> Another Bone for TC:  70% of energy is lost during electrical
> transmission process!!  From power plant, over the power lines to the
> destination; remaining 30% is for use.

> check out this UTC presentation PureComfort vs. PureCell...choose for
> yourself.

> http://www.energyreinvented.com/

> Does anyone know the costs for FCEL or maintenance costs?

> Cheers..:)

> -Tallbobsmoke

> On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > $CPST 25% efficeincy at 120F?

> > This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> > So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> > it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> > And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> > it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> > maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> > CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> > Arabia bake!

> > CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> > temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> > $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> > electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> > Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> > fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> > generation efficiency.

> > See Efficiency:

> >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> > This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> > the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> > mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> > Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> > to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> > Cheers:)
> > Tallbobsmoke

> > TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > > Hint: Fuel Cells.

> http://www.globalmicroturbine.com/Site/Microturbine/Entries/2007/12/2...

> CPST runs 9 years until a major overhaul needed.
> yearly filter change all that is needed.
> So, If you were to hook up 8 C30s your savings after 9 years would be
> $2,016,000.

> Today, Bay Area PG&E bill charges $0.115 for electricity & $0.93 for
> gas...:(

> -Tallbobsmoke

> On Oct 22, 8:29 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > CPST can be combined with Fuel Cells to increase efficiency further by
> > 2015.

> >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/Investors%20Business%20Daily%209-...

> > Another Bone for TC:  70% of energy is lost during electrical
> > transmission process!!  From power plant, over the power lines to the
> > destination; remaining 30% is for use.

> > check out this UTC presentation PureComfort vs. PureCell...choose for
> > yourself.

> >http://www.energyreinvented.com/

> > Does anyone know the costs for FCEL or maintenance costs?

> > Cheers..:)

> > -Tallbobsmoke

> > On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > $CPST 25% efficeincy at 120F?

> > > This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> > >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> > > So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> > > it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> > > And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> > > it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> > > maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> > > CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> > > Arabia bake!

> > > CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> > > temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> > > $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> > > electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> > > Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> > > fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> > > generation efficiency.

> > > See Efficiency:

> > >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> > > This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> > > the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> > > mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> > > Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> > > to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> > > Cheers:)
> > > Tallbobsmoke

> > > TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> > > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > > > Hint: Fuel Cells.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> On Oct 23, 12:33 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > CPST  - Savings of a 30kw turbine..based on $ .11/kw utility charge is
> > $28,000/year savings x 9 = $252,000.

> >http://www.globalmicroturbine.com/Site/Microturbine/Entries/2007/12/2...

> > CPST runs 9 years until a major overhaul needed.
> > yearly filter change all that is needed.
> > So, If you were to hook up 8 C30s your savings after 9 years would be
> > $2,016,000.

> > Today, Bay Area PG&E bill charges $0.115 for electricity & $0.93 for
> > gas...:(

> > -Tallbobsmoke

> > On Oct 22, 8:29 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > CPST can be combined with Fuel Cells to increase efficiency further by
> > > 2015.

> > >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/Investors%20Business%20Daily%209-...

> > > Another Bone for TC:  70% of energy is lost during electrical
> > > transmission process!!  From power plant, over the power lines to the
> > > destination; remaining 30% is for use.

> > > check out this UTC presentation PureComfort vs. PureCell...choose for
> > > yourself.

> > >http://www.energyreinvented.com/

> > > Does anyone know the costs for FCEL or maintenance costs?

> > > Cheers..:)

> > > -Tallbobsmoke

> > > On Oct 22, 12:23 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > $CPST 25% efficeincy at 120F?

> > > > This is good news for CPST use  in high temperatures today..

> > > >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/files/HT%20Membrane%20fact%20sheet.pdf#..."temperature"

> > > > So...at 120F at around 104 days $FCEL operates at 50% efficeincy...and
> > > > it looks like Voltage it would drop off the chart..?
> > > > And at 120F at around 104 days $CPST operates at 25% efficiency....but
> > > > it will continue on for 2 years w/o maintenance...even then
> > > > maintenance is minor; then continues on forever.

> > > > CPST wins as a power solution at 120F!!!  Let the sands of Saudi
> > > > Arabia bake!

> > > > CPST looses as a power solution by 12% to FCEL at ambient
> > > > temperatures.   FCEL maintenance costs...  Does anybody know?

> > > > $FCEL.... DFC power plants are 47% efficient in the generation of
> > > > electrical power and up to 80% efficient overall in Combined Heat and
> > > > Power (CHP) applications when the byproduct heat is used.  Typical
> > > > fossil fuel-powered plants operate at about 35% electrical power
> > > > generation efficiency.

> > > > See Efficiency:

> > > >http://www.fuelcellenergy.com/benefits-fuel-cell-technology.php

> > > > This one is for TChttp://www.microturbine.com/_docs/C65%20&%20C65-ICHP%20NATGAS.pdf

> > > > the efficiency curve is shocking....but this seems to be all that
> > > > mankind can muster this day in time...pathetic.
> > > > Hydrogen is the real power solution but it is very..very...expensive
> > > > to produce and still in infancy stages compared to FCEL & CPST.

> > > > Cheers:)
> > > > Tallbobsmoke

> > > > TC did you know that FCEL is CPST major competitor?

> > > > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, TallBobSmoke <tallbobsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > $CPST 25% efficiency at 100F.  TC no better system at this temp.?
> > > > > Hint: Fuel Cells.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -