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From: Stock.Discuss...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:31:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
In this bad time, this company managed to meet the expectation and
giving 20 to 30% yearly growth and the stock gets beaten!!! don't understand...Wait till investors realise the mistake and bring this stock back in line with the street. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Stock.Discuss...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:36:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
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From: nobo...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:08:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
The market is completely misunderstanding the data. The annualized
earnings rate based on the last quarter (ending December 2007) is over $.60. The forecast for annual revenue growth is 28%. And also extremely importantly, the forecast increase of cost is 20%, below 28% . Now, if you understand math, it is significant that the increasing rate of cost is lower than the revenue growth rate. For example, for any company, if the cost increases at the same rate as the total revenue, the earnings will also grow at the same rate. This is pure math. In the case Cerogon Networks, for example, the earnings will grow at annual rate of 28% even if the cost goes at 28%, the same rate as the revenue growth. If the increase of cost turns out true to be close to the forecast lower 20%, rather than 28%, you will actually see the earnings growing much faster than 28%. The math here is what bit more complicated, and the actual number depends on the current profit rate. The calculation would go like this: Earnings growth rate = (revenue growth rate x revenue - cost growth = revenue growth rate + (revenue growth rate - cost growth rate) x You can see there is an additional contribution to the earnings growth If you plug in the current members of CRNT, which has: revenue growth rate = 1.28 (28% increase); You would have a shocking 2.08 earnings growth rate, which is about Now back to the current price of the stock. With annualized earnings The market is insane in terms of its emotion, and stupid in terms of You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: kamlesh.chowdh...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:12:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
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From: Stock.Discuss...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 28 2008 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
I am projecting above $10...but just based on the market reaction, at
least this stock should be above $10 and because the shorts will not let this stock go up quickly..However, on a flip side, the shorts might help it move up and then $13 to $15 is where i am basing my projection of the near term future price. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: nobo...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 12:44 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
I apologize for the typos in the previous post. I did it in an extreme
hurry yesterday. I wish the posts here could be edited or deleted, but obviously they cannot be. The following is the corrected post. This corrects typos and makes a few amendments on the description, and is meant to completely replace the previous one. The market is completely misunderstanding the data. The annualized
In the case of Ceragon Networks, for example, the earnings will grow
Earnings growth rate = (revenue growth rate x revenue - cost growth
= revenue growth rate + (revenue growth rate - cost growth rate) x
You can see there is an extra contribution to the earnings growth rate
Also significant in the above formula is the factor "cost/earnings".
Now, let's plug in the current members of CRNT:
revenue growth rate = 1.28 (28% increase);
You would have a shocking 2.08 earnings multiple, which is a 108%
The bottom line is that, if the revenue growth rate is close to 28%,
Now back to the current price of the stock. With annualized earnings
The market is insane in terms of its emotion, and stupid in terms of
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From: nobo...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:45:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
I think most critical thing to remember is that this company still
has a quite low profit margin, not because it has a stagnant low profit margin like many other companies, but because it has just recently turned profitable. As showing in my analysis, a present low (but improving) profit margin can be the most important factor in forecasting a high earnings growth rate. I think this stock is the greatest bargain on the market at the present time. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Stock.Discuss...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:54:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 29 2008 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: Expect to see above $10 soon and then above $13
Nobo...I totally agree with what you said. The market is stupid and I
really fail to understand why is this being hit..And the answer to that question is the market sways and swings that make the small investors take the money out and increase the VIX of this stock. I am not sure if i am correct on the short term, but will be surprised if this stock proves me wrong. As for now, it is moving in the correct direction. Let's see what happens next. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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