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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:58:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 11:58 am
Subject: Messages from JPM Shareholders
I think that it is time to leave this board. I am selling all of my
JPM stock tomorrow. I do not want to make money on the sufferings of others. Nothing against any of you but truthfully I do not want to be associated with this. I saw that young couple on TV that lost there life savings, I have read all the WM posts and I even owned about 5000 shares. I also had 15000 shares of JPM in the event that they did buy out WM like a good investor would. But I don't want to make money this way. I profited at the expense of others in what was in my mind a shady deal to say the least. These are real people and reading the board tonight with all the gloating and "I am going to be rich" posts just kind of sickens me. Many of those people will have a horrible Thanksgiving and Christmas let alone suffer financial ruin. Why cause we could not offer a couple of bucks a share? Sorry I like to make money but not when I have to screw over fellow Americans to make it. I am going to donate my profits to a food bank and pray God forgives me for my small part in this. http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_J/thread... You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: shoremast...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Sprinter, I wish I could join you in your Decission. I however am
still in the middle of my life God willing. i was Born into this culture of save and invest, or if given, save that, work hard, and save and invest. anyway. My JPM shares are old and income for my childrens future. I have as you and many others Lost more on paper for now but given the recent squalking from the courts its our government thats got us in this possition. I would always here my grandpa, then my dad Complain that after a lifetime of earning and subsequent paying taxes in the high bracket!! At the end of their Life 55% more of there money is handed to the government to do things like create the FDIC in 1913 for instance. anyway im ramblin. everyones in the same boat really we are just pawns in this game called life. when I leave this earth all this will be left behind. But while we are here we must follow our personal principles handed down like shares of stock, invest them in our future and never be caught waivering from those core principles. you sir have Integrity, and theres something thats gone the way of the handshake. Thats a deal. Cya on the west coast of things. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: JoshBKauf...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:29:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Oh my god. This is America. We are founded on the right to pursue
happiness. Who gives a fuck if people made bad decisions, as long as you made the right ones.If you sell now, I promise you, you will look back and regret the decision. If you buy a diamond, are you sure it isnt a blood diamond from africa? If you put gas in your car, are you sure it wasnt oil received during a bloody coup, or a turf war, or rebel Somalis killing people to take control of the pipeline? Some of the best stocks are tobacco, or alcoholic beverages. Both of which has had a hand in killing. How about McDonalds. They cut down rain forests, and that might put people in those areas of africa and south america out of their homes. And what about the food giving people heart attacks. You are a shareholder, not a CEO. You have no part of this. Hold on to your shares, and be happy that in a few years, you could use the money and give it to charity or something. You havent done anything wrong, and this wasnt your fault. People that lost money on WM shouldnt have been allowed to invest anyway. It was a bad play, and if something is too good to be true, it usually is. If they lost their retirement, then they didnt learn investing 101. It is a rule that if you are nearing retirement, and you cant afford to bet on stocks, then your money should be in Bills, bonds, etc. You shouldn't have tried to make a quick buck betting on a poorly run business that was on sale for less than 2$. Instead, they could have bought something with a dividend, or a stock like AA, or MCX, etc. Dont feel guilty that someone made a mistake. Instead, relish in the fact that you were smart enough to make the right decision, and bought into a bank that was picked by the government as the banks that would repopulate the earth after the financial armageddon a la the Matrix. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: bullsandbearsmakemo...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Nah screw him. Have you read his other posts. Trust me, him selling
and leaving is a good thing. Hopefully he will quit his sniveling on our board. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: JoshBKauf...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 21 2008 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Oh wow, I got suckered in. He is one of those faggots that cry on here
every day? Then he should get the fuck out of the market, and move to pre-1980's Russia. Him, Stalin, and Marx would have a fun time together You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: greyhat00...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:00:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 1:00 am
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
I say let him go; he never really provided anything positive to these
posts, all he did was whine and complaint about JPM/OTS/FDIC/FED, and about how much they "screwed" him; he didn't even understand what his shares represented, and now he is "guilty" about his profits? GTFOH! Obviously greed is not a concern for him, because the only reason anyone would "invest" in something like WM, is greed! That sucker was just trying to cash in on what he thought was a smart move, and what did he do? He lost his freaking retirement money, that my friends is greed at work, because like Josh said, he should have been careful with his money. So, I don't buy this whole, "I don't want to make a profit at your expense" crap- capitalism is a zero sum game! He belongs at WaMuRape.com and all these other wacko blog sites with his buddies; I bet that TWSprinter and some of his crazy WM buddies probably sent those letters to JPM's branches. He strickes me as the type of off-the-wall psycho that would do something like that. Now that he is leaving, maybe these blogs can finally have something else other than, TWS' crazy rants. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: hyp3r...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 4:21 am
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Yay, no more spamming from TWS.
No offence but you were really making this board a farce.
Au revoir mon ami. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: shoremast...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 9:33 am
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
All these boards are a farce, if the freedom to share your thoughts
and information is continually pounded down with hate and ignorance. Call it what you will because its what you will be creating by continuing your Rants about what another man should do with his rights. Back to France they live like that. not here in America, land of the free. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: dp197...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
America really has freedom of speech "unless" ammendment now. You can
say what you want, unless it is? You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: aboalima...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:52:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
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From: bullsandbearsmakemo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Personally I find Sprinter's obsession with the WaMu/JPM deal and his
cries of a conspiracy disturbing. It is quite obsessive. Anyways, he's a bitter guy... I am starting to wonder if he is the A- hole sending the envelopes of white powder to the Chase and WaMu branches??????? He seems to fit the profile of someone being obsessed and distraught enough. Perhaps we should point the FBI in his direction. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: greyhat00...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:59:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
Aboalima: "Sell"?, please explain; don't just post random shit, we
get enough of that from TWS, go ahead and provide us your deep analysis on your sell rating. P.S. no funny number mixing crap, I want to see your valuation model. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: JoshBKauf...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 22 2008 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
GOD DAMN IT! I am writing in all caps in order to show I mean it. I
would use bold red type if they allowed me to on here. Shore, the reason we get angry at these people is because we are legitimate shareholders that want to have intelligent conversation. If you want to go to a board that is covered in nutjobs, go to WM. It is conspiracy central. We are tired of hearing people come on here with their half-assed shit about how JPM is the devil, and Jamie is Satans and Hitlers love child (I could have given a south park reference there). The US isnt in great shape. JPM does have a few bad assets on the book But they are not going under, instead I could easily see Dimon go in and start buying deposits from quality regional banks that got caught up in LEH and AIG. We are going to come back. The first thing you must remember is that the US got the flu, but the world is suffering from Malaria. When we come out of this, and we will, and the rest of the world starts to get better, JPM will be in great shape along with GS, BAC, Wells, and C. I am long US financials, and short emerging markets, with a large position shorting emerging markets. I dont short with options, I short with inverted ETF's, which might fuck me, because it includes China, but Ill live. I have said this before, but this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I will be one day telling my grandkids (Because this will be in the history books), that I bought AAPL and GS for <100, BAC for 22, JPM for 40, C for 13, and others. I am more than happy to take the loss, just because I'm not investing in companies, I am investing in my belief in this country. And does anyone know how the middle east is doing? I know they must be feeling this oil pinch, and I heard that Iran, Quatar and Russia are looking to form a Cartel, like OPEC, for natural gas. It was in todays WSJ. That scares me for Europe, but we should be ok right. And one last thing in the Geo-political front, did anyone notice a
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From: ryanwfreder...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 23 2008 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Messages from JPM Shareholders
The government facilitated all those acquisitions by JPM (think Bear
Stearns) for a reason. Dimon is a damn genius, and JPM is going to come out of the other end of this adjustment as a major - MAJOR - player. Something akin to its namesake. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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