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From: happy4days <happy4d...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:36:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Buy!!!!!!!!!
In a half a year the product will be across America, pharmacies,
doctors will have it too. The pps will go up in time but people are selling because they wanted a quick profit! I'm waiting for the low today and buying more soon! I have been in since Febuary so what another six months to a year? We will be rewared in a yearI Patience! GTLA You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: greentrader <nickc1...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:14:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
I hope this thing drops like a rock so I can load up cheap!
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From: AdamJ <ajtimper...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:16:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
If I'd been in since February I would skim trade or take half off the
table. Really easy to sit on a free position for the long. On Nov 6, 11:36 am, happy4days <happy4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Rudee <rude...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:33:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
I'm with you on that Adam. I've previously locked in profits and I'm
now long riding on the houses money. On Nov 6, 10:16 am, AdamJ <ajtimper...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Medlow <med...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:08:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
I know it's been discussed that Covidien buy out Nuvo after approval
but I think with the shares trading where they are it's more likley. Just using some simple #'s Shares are 410M (assuming the warrants go through) and in the debt of roughly 20M and cash 29M + 9M for warrants totaling 38M + 2M is assests brings up to around 40M + or -. So if Covidien put in an offer for 50 cents a share 205M + 20M (debt) - 40M (cash + assets) = 185M to own Nuvo. If I was Covidien I would be all over this, I didnt count in the 15M they just got for approval and if reach the goals 100M, they invested 115M they could own Nuvo for 70M more and would give them Pennsaid Plus and the WF10 drugs which would be really cheap! Most people would want the share price to be higher and so would I, at 75 cents a share it would cost them additional 172M which is still reasonable. These were just rough #'s but I think it's pretty sound and with out
Anybody else thinking the same as me on this or am I out to lunch?
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From: BoWing <gladyjun...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:26:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
I'm with you. Pennsaid does have sales history against rival drugs in
Canada, UK, Greece, etc. I believe sales are handily beating competitors. If you look at Fall 2009 presentation the reason is greater effeciacy with reduced dosage and less side effects vs oral version. If you were a doctor and given the clinical results which would you prescribe to your patients? On Nov 6, 2:08 pm, Medlow <med...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: AdamJ <ajtimper...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:09:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
$175 million for one product with no track record in the US? Come on
get serious. If Covidien want to buy Nuvo it would have happened instead of signing a deal and throwing away $25 million. Your valuation of the company is based on money that the potential buyer has already invested which just doesn't even make sense. That type of deal would be a great way for the board and executives a Covidien to lose their jobs and face a whack of lawsuits. Chances of a buyout are slim to none. The main money is in the supply chain not in the development. The other reason I think why we won't see a buy out is the deal
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From: BoWing <gladyjun...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:36:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
So you are saying that NRI has to prove it's self in sales in US and
then when sales are over a billion, then Covidien may considering buying NRI? So instead of buying NRI now it wants to wait until NRI market cap is a billion (sales/revenue increase causes pps/mc to increase) before buyout? In other words pay more for it later...makes perfect sense! On Nov 6, 3:09 pm, AdamJ <ajtimper...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Medlow <med...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:36:42 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
Adam I see some of your points and they make sense but...No track
record in the US your right but lots of small pharma's get bought by bigger ones after approvals. Fact is neither of us know what the deal is right now there is always alot of variables in them not quite as cut and dry and you seem to make it so the whole lawsuit stuff and board members being fired is a bit of a stretch and I wouldnt expect them to do a bad deal would have to make sense for both parties. You called the deal solid? how can you call it solid when you dont even know the #'s? Only thing really said is 100M milstone and in line with the industry. In line with the industry is a broad range it's not just a set % or anything like that. All I;m saying if they had some good clauses in the deal it's possible
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From: AdamJ <ajtimper...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:48:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
God points Medlow. They could of inked out those nice milestone
payments but, the royalty may be crap. Going on the past history of releasing news I expect we will find out sometime in six months! On Nov 6, 3:36 pm, Medlow <med...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Rudee <rude...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:49:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
Personally, I think a Covidien buyout is not going to happen anytime
soon - if at all. The 3 biggest movers to affect the future shareprice of NRI are earnings earnings earnings. Once they penetrate the US market and the coffers start filling with cash, then we can perhaps bitch and complain about the share price, but until Pennsaid is on shelves in the US, I don't realistically expect any major moves to the upside in the near future, give or take a dime. On Nov 6, 1:36 pm, BoWing <gladyjun...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: BoWing <gladyjun...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:07:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
How quickly can they get it on the shelves? Already being
manufactured (check) so just need to ramp up production, labeling and instructions (check) - probably already sitting on someones laptop with version a (with ammendment) vs version b (without ammendment) for the last 3 months. I'm sure Covidien marketing machine hasn't been sitting on their arses for the past 3 months wondering if approval is going to happen before getting the ball rolling. On Nov 6, 3:49 pm, Rudee <rude...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Vinny <vancemend...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:11:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
Rudee I'm more bitching at dumbass healthcare stock traders who buy
HEB at $4 (it's still trading above a dollar now, 5 months after their supposed decision date) and then sell Nuvo at pre-approval prices AFTER it receives the biggest news in their company's history. On Nov 6, 3:49 pm, Rudee <rude...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Medlow <med...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:28:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
I cant see any big moves up until it's announced it's on the shelves
then after that earnings, I think it's release is in Q1. The whole deal it's self kinda confuses me with the milestone + bonuse
Hey Adam you were on the Opti board alot too and really didnt think
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From: Rudee <rude...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:52:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 12:52 am
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that HEB fiasco is another thing..... What a mess for investors
that's been. On Nov 6, 2:11 pm, Vinny <vancemend...@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Majobuki <josh...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:10:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 10:10 am
Subject: Re: Buy!!!!!!!!!
Just curious, forgive me if this is a stupid question. It seems that
all the math here is based solely on what they are able to sell in the states. Aren't they already selling product elsewhere? Do they have any other product out? Aren't they currently working with a German company on future development? Isn't there trans dermal delivery system unique to what is out there and worth quite a bit seeing as it can be used with other products? There seems to be a lot more here than just how much Pennsaid they can sell here in the states. If I'm wrong, tell me but please don't throw insults around. Thoughts? On Nov 6, 11:52 pm, Rudee <rude...@gmail.com> wrote:
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