From: cibalo...@googlemail.com
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:38:27 -0000
Local: Tues, Aug 7 2007 1:38 am
Subject: Re: Do we BUY SELL or HOLD this stock ????
Valors...@gmail.com wrote: WTF?!? Are You just attempting to flame people or what? my post wasn't > cibalo .... <para> > investment grade stuff by repackaging and making more money... > everyone was leveraged to their balls and borrowing money was almost > free because no one was defaulting while rates were ridiculously low > and risk was priced out of the market... do you know anything of > business cycles? counter to anything you were saying, but just making an observation about the market. However, if you insist.. First, i hate to warrant a lecture from anyone who can use the phrase "leveraged to their balls" and still think they know what "business cycles" means... that's funny that you think the risk was priced out of the market... to the tune of over $6.5 trillion dollars in growth in the Subprime lending sectors alone from 2003-2006. Risk WAS the market - resulting in drastically higher rates when compared to equivalent Conforming MBS's. Higher yield spreads, negligible swap rates and higher bids on servicing contracts kept the housing & financials market growing for over 2 years AFTER the fed rates hit their historic low @ 1. it's not that money was free, it was that people who had it started giving it away like it was. They just charged a premium on the risk, and everyone on Wall Street wanted a piece of that premium and kept on paying more and more for that share. Obviously it's not flawless, there will always be some donkeys who The new pet rock is Alt- A. born entirely of the Risk-based pricing > Looks like the market is going to collapse unless the government steps i don't know what this means, unless you agree with me and the Fed > in. Just because you don't want it to happen doesn't mean that it's > not reality. etc... should cut the key rate from 5.25 to at least 5.0. They really should have done that in March, and maybe even again in June. The housing defaults are totally attributable to the rising costs of funds and the subsequent liquidity losses are a direct result of downgraded bonds based on increasing DEFAULT rates, not inherently bad security packages. Stopping the rate hikes was a start but in the last 18 months the Fed has just sat back and watched things go from bad to ugly. Macroeconomics 201- i think they covered business cycling... That's what I was saying the reality is, I think some guy named Jim if you're buying - HOLD until 9.5 You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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