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 More options Aug 10 2007, 9:07 am
From: penkish...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:07:05 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 10 2007 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Do we BUY SELL or HOLD this stock ????
Boom!!!.......there go the short"ers" and their advisors!!  All the
smart folks who said the deal wasn't going to happen must be doing
great now.
jimmyx...@aol.com wrote:
> I'm not a trader, so I'm not going to say anything about buy, sell,
> dead cat bounce...whatever.
> But I wanted to point out a few facts that people seem to be missing.

> First, the "$2 billion that accredited has" as indicated by Cramer.
> Cramer is a smart guy, and I'm not going to dispute his analysis or
> whatever, but I'm not sure where he is getting this # or why he is
> putting it out there.

> The $2 billion figure is wrong. Accredited HAD $2.7 billion WORTH of
> loans that it sold to Farillon, but AT A STEEP DISCOUNT. They didn't
> make $2 billion from the sale.
> Quoting from March Accredited statement...

> "The $2.7 billion of loans held for sale will be sold at a substantial
> discount in order to alleviate recent pressures from margin calls."

> Secondly, according to Accredited's own documentation, as of April
> 2007, after all of the sales from the $2.7 billion WORTH of loans and
> additional shares of stock sold, etc....Accredited had ONLY $350
> Million left over. They used all of the money from the wrongfully
> quoted $2 billion to pay off existing warehouse lines.

> Quoting from Accredited's announcement on April 2, 2007
> " As a result of the previously announced sale of $2.7 billion of
> loans and the closing of the Farallon term loan, Accredited repaid the
> majority of its warehouse facilities. The Company terminated four
> warehouse lines after repayment of these facilities in full."

> The remaining assets are used for day to day operations etc.  So I'm
> not sure why or where people are getting this $2 billion that
> Accredited supposedly has laying around, and why someone as sharp as
> Cramer would be referring to money that was publicly announced as
> already having been spent...I didn't read the SEC filings, so maybe
> the figure he is quoting is in there...

> Also, I have read the agreement with LoneStar. I don't remember if it
> was something that I was privy to as an employee, or if it was on
> Accredited's investor site, or what....In my opinion, the deal isn't
> 'ironclad' per se.   Although Lone Star can't back out of the deal
> because of market conditions, there ARE many very specific
> representations made by Accredited to be true or that certain
> conditions do not exist. If those representations are incorrect or
> misrepresentations, then Lone Star would be, or could be, 'off the
> hook' if they wanted to be.


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