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Plague is nothing to play with

jinsant...@gmail.com (wittle) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:05:08 UT

Some may believe it is an esoteric stretch to couple a string of
catastrophes into one event, but to deny that the dust bowl and the
great depression came simultaneously , or that the Great Famine of
1314 had any consequential effect on the Great Plague, or on religious
grounds, the plagues in Exodus where separate, would be called

You keep posting too Sakalas, you add a measure of class to this board that is wonderful!

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:06:26 UT

I, for one, always consider possibilities and motivation. Why does
someone post something, or write and publish
something....boredom...probabl y not.,..
One might even apply that same thinking to my posts

Translation of the chinese below

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:55:36 UT

Plummets when Beijing temperature to the freezing point below, Chinese
media reports said that the Type A H1N1 flu case-reporting number also
straight line rise, the municipal administration Medical department
stressed that the armor class morbidity number rose 65% last week. On
the other hand, Central authorities high-ranking officials said that

second Top-High-exploding H1N1 --SVA 200%++++++

gldle...@gmail.com (gold Lee1) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:57:59 UT

就在北京气温骤降至冰点以下之时，中文媒体报道称，甲型H1N1 流感病例报告数也直线上升，市政卫生部门强调，上周甲流发病数上升65%。另一方面，中
央政府一名高级官员说，中国当前的流感近85%是甲流。
据新华社报道，卫生部门相关官员在为应对更严重的疫情做准备，警告说，甲流已进入高发期，感染病例迅速增加，并可能持续到明年3 月。

Thoughts from the group on Monday's opening after weekend news and

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:49:07 UT

reading and researches?

THank you Bucky!!...Monday!!

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:54:25 UT

...consistency is the key, I'm sure of it

Oh My, Did you listen carefully to the conference call

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:03:56 UT

I heard them say that they will probably be providing Hepatitis A
vaccine to all newborn children in...Shanghai??? Bejing?? anyway,
think they said 30 million,....Sva will double and triple its profit
over the next year.
They already went up 142% from last year to this year comparitive
quarters.

Did you see the news on INO site about mutating virus and resistant strains

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:18:06 UT

Did you see the news on INO site about mutating virus and resistant
strains

Can reporters be on the take?

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:31:33 UT

Al Capone had plenty of Chicago reporters on his payroll. When I read
the following propaganda in China Stock Weekly, I realized that Al may
be dead, but his spirit lives on:

Sinovac (AMEX:SVA), this tiny vaccine maker reported in-line earnings
on Monday but fell for the rest of the week making investors wonder

Investing for Humanitian reasons

jinsant...@gmail.com (wittle) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:59 UT

Since Google has religated the Discussion Board to page 2 and no
longer brings the messages with the most hits to the forefront , it
would be nice if Google at least gave us a click count so that we at
least had an idea on the silent majority number viewing this board.
Now this may sound naive or even bleeding heart liberal, but there

Great meeting guys...

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:15:16 UT

Please don't forget the time that we're doing this on Monday. It'll
only work as a coordinated effort.
T

Next meeting ...first thing Tues 6:30, assessment and strategies,
bring reactions and suggestions for deepening the effect.

What kind of news will bring SVA to $20.00?

yhst...@gmail.com (oh buck market) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:27:40 UT

1. Settlement price will be the same as international market - no
way.
2. Further more orders without competition from MOH due to the
contribution in this H1N1 spreadout.?
3. Awarded by tax preference and R&D rebate?
4. A pc of land for real property development?
5. Anything else?.............

Today's Trading

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:48:50 UT

My guess is that the price of SVA will rise sharply during the last
few minutes of trading because a) I've seen this happen before on
Friday and b) positive news can break before the market opens on
Monday.

Just remember, it's only my guess. Between September and 3rd Q
earnings, SVA hit a low of just above $7. There's no reason why that

SVA is going to make many unscared rich

jame...@yahoo.com (JimA) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:34:01 UT

I see some friends are frustrated a lot even if they are in a gold
train.

I visit China often, and I have faith with SVA. Unless you have to
sell for any reason, selling SVA under $11 will let you regret over
the next months and quarters.
Under $10, buy and buy.

SVA share price is about to fly for a few reasons.

Yes, Thank you BlueP for your thoughtful post, terrific perspective and clear thinking...

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:00:18 UT

I mean that sincerely

Next meeting 6:30...less sincerely

Yes, all the great news and big orders will suck in a lot of buyers to the stock, then...you know

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:55:59 UT

what will happen next. We know the patterns, we discussed all this
already at our first BD&R meeting.
TOmorrow, a lot of pepople will buy stock on the good news, PPS
will go up, probably close to ten, at which point MM, ( although it
may be Monday by then),,,will drive the price down and people will

You don't have to be a genius..

mnshers...@gmail.com (M.H.) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:08:51 UT

.....to know that big orders are coming soon....just read all the news
of China ramping up vaccinations...

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yahmad...@gmail.com (yahmadi) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:23 UT

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Positive Phase 3 results of an erectile dysfunction (ED) drug

tanumoydutta1...@gmail.com (tanu) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:40:09 UT

VIVUS Inc. (VVUS) reported positive results for Avanafil, their
erectile dysfunction (ED) drug. New BioMedicine had issued a report
with positive coverage of this event on May 5, 2009. Stock up 111.7%
from the date of our coverage till after the news announcement. To
know about the disease, the drug, the market potential, the

Feel like a blow fish

jinsant...@gmail.com (wittle) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:38:48 UT

I've been averaging down so much my house is overflowing with SVA
stocks. This has got to stop. I've never said this before, but I am
100% sure this stock is totally manipulated. Totally out of our hands.
I've seen 34,000 shares pop up to stop the price from rising. In fact
I have another Chinese stock YONG, that not only acts the same way,

A Highly Interested Post from the Yahoo Message Board

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:36:46 UT

Most of the information on the Yahoo Message Board is best ignored.
However, here is a post I found very interesting from someone whose
previous posts have proven to be reliable:

Will sales drop when H1N1 recedes?

The short answer: No!

First, the consensus in the scientific community, including the WHO,

1.5 million vaccines a day

mnshers...@gmail.com (M.H.) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:22:17 UT

from the yahoo board

* CHINA to vaccinate 1.5 mln people daily for next 3 months ***
18-Nov-09 07:22 pm
1.5M per day getting swine flu vaccine in China
By WILL WEISSERT (AP) – 55 minutes ago

China's health minister said Wednesday his country is vaccinating 1.5
million people a day against swine flu, part of a mammoth effort to

I predict that it'll drop a lot more, the better the news the bigger the drop...haven't you noticed

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:53:36 UT

I don't think it'll go back up yet, because I don't think that MM has
finished getting rid of enough people and stealing their stock. I
think it'll go to low 7s. maybe even high 6... and then creep up to
mid 7 and stay there until 4th qtr. Then it will then climb quickly up
and up to 10-12, whereupon, the cycle will repeat..

What does everyone think $ for tomorrow?

ack...@gmail.com (styx) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:15:35 UT

Seeing how today it held so far pretty steady at $7.70~$7.75. My
educated guess would be it should be going up with all the good news.
Of course the Shelf Registration scared people off. Lets face
it...not approved yet...and company might not even use it. Wouldn't
be surprised to see this thing back up to $9.00 middle of next week.

Interesting Sideline to the U.S.-China Summit

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:05:31 UT

Summing Up the U.S.-China Summit
Important Baby Steps by Nina Hachigian

"Also included in the joint statement were promises to increase
cooperation in counterterrorism, agriculture, and pandemic disease.
You get the idea: lots of issues, lots of pledges. As they are
implemented, though, these could really matter. Each could mean

More News: Coverage Initiated

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:49:06 UT

Sinovac Biotech (SVA) assumed with a Buy and price target of $11 at
Brean Murray.

Another $11 raised price target

davidsbluebe...@googlemail.com (bluepeter) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:43:50 UT

Another raised price target to $11

[link]

FEAR OF DILUTION

mnshers...@gmail.com (M.H.) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:23:09 UT

the very mention of adding shares, in the future, will knock down the
stock. The MM's knew this 2 days before us..let's hope we stop the
bleeding today..if not buy in cheap..jmo

Explanation and effect of "Shelf Offering of SVA"

earningswatc...@gmail.com (earningswatcher) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:23:02 UT

Hope this helps!

SVA filed for a "shelf offering" of 10 million shares today. Please do
not confuse with secondary offeing. Shelf offering is like a stand -
by registration with the SEC of new shares to enable the company to
sell new shares only if the company feels they need to. The shelf
registration is good for 2 years and the company may opt to sell in

SVA NOT raising funds immediately

davidsbluebe...@googlemail.com (bluepeter) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:15:26 UT

SVA NOT raising funds immediately, the document posted today gives SVA
the opportunity to offer up to 10million shares @ $8.37 each, when/if
it decides to utilise/needs those funds at anytime in the future.

The funds will be used, imo, as/when the opportunity occurs to expand
outside China :-)

News

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:35 UT

Sinovac offers 88.7 million common stock offering!

Estimate of the number of Lives saved by SAV

jinsant...@gmail.com (wittle) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:17:05 UT

If you innoculated everyman, women and child in New York City and
two died, one having a heart attack playing basketball, would a
reporter for the Times have written a stupid article that two people
had died after receiving the flu short? Would it had gotten published?
More people die from sneezing in city of 10 million. No, the real

Positive data from an early stage trial of a sarcoma drug

sudipbanerjeeos...@gmail.com (babu) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:47:08 UT

Threshold Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (THLD) reported positive results for
TH-302, their sarcoma drug. New BioMedicine issued positive coverage
of this event on August 18, 2009. The stock is up 115% from the date
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Disappointed

yhst...@gmail.com (oh buck market) — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:12:37 UT

I were really feeling frustrated not cash out on/around Nov. 15/16, I
have already alert myself to the peak date based on historical
records, normally Nov. But I believe SVA is doing very well and should
not be downgraded in a fair market - it seems the market is not fair
to reflect the company's value.

NASDAQ ?

mnshers...@gmail.com (M.H.) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:52:33 UT

we are listed everywhere but google....Is it a different symbol?

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Day Trading

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:37:55 UT

I've noticed on several occasions that SVA has popped before noon or
before 3 p.m. ET for no apparent reason. My suspicion is that it's
one way the Great Manipulator gobbles up shares on the way up,
suckering small traders to buy, and then moves the price down again in
an attempt to intimidate them into selling. Caution advised.

Isn't SVA trading pre-market this morning?

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:34:10 UT

maybe they're cooling the jets so people will look for other feedbags

question for MH or Sal

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:37:25 UT

Don't you guys think it is possible that the MM are in bed with the
stock brokers like Ameritrade Sogo , Scott and the others...Such that
they can use software to let them keep an eye on us and moves we make
or are planning to make??/ So if...Sunday evening a lot of people put
in high sell limits for their SVA so if it opens high they rake uit

Totally manipulation - market response is weird to SVA 3rd Q

yhst...@gmail.com (oh buck market) — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:47:42 UT

Today's SVA makes lots of investors disappointed. It is beyond my
estimation. However, I believe it is totally MM manipulation.

Based on Q3, the result is 50% more than the analyst's estimate
without inclusion of H1N1 vaccine sales - 1.1 millions dose to be
delivered not later than 12/12/2009 - i.e. almost 36 million on sales

Piper Jaffray's Upgrades SVA to $11

jinsant...@gmail.com (wittle) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:12:05 UT

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we got ffffff-ed lol

stanack...@gmail.com (me and aig) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:44:24 UT

i hate being greedy it always hurts me! hopefully it will come back
soon???

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Today's Trade

boris.baku...@gmail.com (sakalas91) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:37:56 UT

Last night I noticed a lot of interesting action on my Ameritrade
Accounts page. I kept pressing the "Get Quotes" button and saw bids
to buy being entered at two price levels: around 8.82 and 9.30 or
so. I also saw asks to sell at around 9.40 and then repeatedly at
9.99.

I wasn't sure how to interpret this, but I had a hunch that it would

Hopefully.....

davidsbluebe...@googlemail.com (bluepeter) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:37:33 UT

.....the share price is due to shorts desperate to lower price before
options expiry on Friday.

I couldn't resist a small top-up @$8.40 :-)

If possible try and sit through this week's storm, stick to your
research evaluation and don't get too stressed watching the share
price every minute - unless you want to top up :-)

DO we open on NASDAX ?

mnshers...@gmail.com (M.H.) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:40:59 UT

I don't think we explode, but rise steady. We should continue to rise
on orders,upgrades and 4th quarter projected earnings projections..

one out of four is not a bad gamble

tgres...@gmail.com (Terry) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:43:39 UT

There's about four ways our open can go today.
Open huge and fall all day, open huge and continue to rise,
Open low and rise all day,
or open low and stay steady or fall.
I vote for open huge and rise like white bread!!

Sinovac Receives Purchase Order from Shanghai Government

robphill...@gmail.com (Rob) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:36:16 UT

China-based bio-pharmaceutical company Sinovac Biotech has received a
purchase order from the Shanghai government to supply its inactivated
hepatitis A vaccine, Healive, to the public market of Shanghai.

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