> Funny how people starts talking about 7.50 options after I mentioned
> it....like over a week ago:

> http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.697187/browse_thread/t...

> ....it's just an idea I had to kill yourself over it.  I'm not
> responsible if you guys bought the wrong side and don't understand
> what option really is.

> On Dec 3, 1:50 pm, Paraglider Paul <paul1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Check the open interest on these.  It looks to me that they have sold
> > both the 7.50 puts and calls for this month.  If they hold the stock
> > at 7.50 until Dec 18th both of these options will expire worthless and
> > they keep all the money taken in by selling the options.

> Check the open interest on these.  It looks to me that they have sold
> both the 7.50 puts and calls for this month.  If they hold the stock
> at 7.50 until Dec 18th both of these options will expire worthless and
> they keep all the money taken in by selling the options.

> This is good sign?

> I am also very disappointed and sad. The only hope is to wait for Q4
> ER.

> On Dec 2, 7:17 pm, oh buck market <yhst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Disappointed and sad!!!!!!!!!

> > Mine is about 10 of cost, loss of lots of money on SVA!

> > I am very disappointed with management of lacking of long-term
> > strategy.

> > Hope SVA will be the buying objective of some big giants!!!!!!

> > On Dec 2, 1:57 pm, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Haitao, sometimes a little extra fund could be powerful.

> > > Early this year, everything dropped too low.  did not sell those that
> > > I bet would go up.  Instead, I wired extra fund to pick up SVA (which
> > > dropped to less than $1) and a few others.  That extra fund played
> > > magic.

> > > I smell a big SVA rally early next year.  Before that, there could be
> > > jumps and a small possibility of deeper dip (some people will dump for
> > > their reasons and MM can lure the dumping).  You can sell some to the
> > > jumps.  Should it went deep, buy some, averaging higher cost.

> > > SVA is a forever long term deal.
> > > After H1N1, I am very sure we will need vaccine for new challenges.

> > > On Dec 2, 11:37 am, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > With good transparency, a stock with challenges still can go up.  My
> > > > another holding A123 shot up 17% days ago, even if it will not be
> > > > profitable within a year, its technology is alleged to be infringing,
> > > > and its researching cost is increasing.

> > > > Such presentation from very profitable SVA can increase transparency,
> > > > winning trust.  Other stake holders might want to help SVA such as
> > > > Dalian port group brought production space to SVA.

> > > > Agree with jd.  Beyond CEO's negative start, I see SVA's solid future
> > > > growth.  Only H1N1 vaccine is pending expot.
> > > > Q3 net increase of 600% only included 0.586 million doses H1N1 vaccine
> > > > from the order of 12.49 million and a small part of prepay.

> > > > Although H1N1 could let next two earnings jump over the moon, SVA can
> > > > earn more from other vaccines such as the animal vaccine.
> > > > Last week when China found H1N1 in pig and dog, its major media
> > > > suddenly removed H1N1 reports and replaced with AIDs reports in order
> > > > to not cause fear.  This week, China started working on animals.

> > > > Absolutely will hold and buy more SVA in hopes and dips.

> > > > On Dec 2, 10:52 am, "wf.wfchen" <wf.wfc...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I am also very disappointed and sad. The only hope is to wait for Q4
> ER.

> On Dec 2, 7:17 pm, oh buck market <yhst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Disappointed and sad!!!!!!!!!

> > Mine is about 10 of cost, loss of lots of money on SVA!

> > I am very disappointed with management of lacking of long-term
> > strategy.

> > Hope SVA will be the buying objective of some big giants!!!!!!

> > On Dec 2, 1:57 pm, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Haitao, sometimes a little extra fund could be powerful.

> > > Early this year, everything dropped too low.  did not sell those that
> > > I bet would go up.  Instead, I wired extra fund to pick up SVA (which
> > > dropped to less than $1) and a few others.  That extra fund played
> > > magic.

> > > I smell a big SVA rally early next year.  Before that, there could be
> > > jumps and a small possibility of deeper dip (some people will dump for
> > > their reasons and MM can lure the dumping).  You can sell some to the
> > > jumps.  Should it went deep, buy some, averaging higher cost.

> > > SVA is a forever long term deal.
> > > After H1N1, I am very sure we will need vaccine for new challenges.

> > > On Dec 2, 11:37 am, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > With good transparency, a stock with challenges still can go up.  My
> > > > another holding A123 shot up 17% days ago, even if it will not be
> > > > profitable within a year, its technology is alleged to be infringing,
> > > > and its researching cost is increasing.

> > > > Such presentation from very profitable SVA can increase transparency,
> > > > winning trust.  Other stake holders might want to help SVA such as
> > > > Dalian port group brought production space to SVA.

> > > > Agree with jd.  Beyond CEO's negative start, I see SVA's solid future
> > > > growth.  Only H1N1 vaccine is pending expot.
> > > > Q3 net increase of 600% only included 0.586 million doses H1N1 vaccine
> > > > from the order of 12.49 million and a small part of prepay.

> > > > Although H1N1 could let next two earnings jump over the moon, SVA can
> > > > earn more from other vaccines such as the animal vaccine.
> > > > Last week when China found H1N1 in pig and dog, its major media
> > > > suddenly removed H1N1 reports and replaced with AIDs reports in order
> > > > to not cause fear.  This week, China started working on animals.

> > > > Absolutely will hold and buy more SVA in hopes and dips.

> > > > On Dec 2, 10:52 am, "wf.wfchen" <wf.wfc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > where can I listen to the presentation?- Hide quoted text -

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> Coming Q4 will be stunning.  Several coming news will beef investor
> confidence about Q1 of 2010.

> This plane is driving around airport before roaring up.

> For the past eight years, SVA has always been the first to come out
> with solutions to the biggest challenges.

> SVA stopped two leading researches to put all effort on H1N1.  SVA
> said this is to balance profit with social responsibility.

> I just got the number.  The government order price of H1N1 vaccine in
> China is not that low.

> Recent Dalian JV was a smart move, by end of 2010, SVA will only need
> to pay 39% (of JV total) to have a 55% ownership.

> In addition to the reported plan with the new JV, SVA has started
> using that large space (inside Dalian Hightect Industrial park) to
> produce something that it will announce next spring.

> SVA itself is the JV of Sinovac Hong Kong and Peking University, which
> is the best university in China.

> Good people of SVA - Good news and/or bad news does not have the
> expected effects on SVA PPS. Can't you remember just a few weeks ago,
> they had a HUGE profit increase and good lots of good future news...
> What happened?...the price dropped a buck over a short period of time.
> Bad news is good, good news is bad. News is really irrelevant...Don't
> use news from the company, or Jim C, or imbecile bashers who can even
> put together a grammatically correct english sentence to guide your
> investment decisions. The MM has SVA under its thumb. The Chinese have
> no idea how seasoned capitalists can operate...yet!

> SVA is a solid company in a culture that we, the West, really don't
> understand much about, and that is going through major transformations
> in the last ten years....and through the next twenty years. Remember
> they were the first with the vaccine. They have a fine pipeline and
> are expanding production and output. SVA is up, I think it was over
> 400%,  for the year.

> Good news would be that the bloodsucker MMs moved onto something they
> thought they could defile more than SVA and take care of their yacht
> payments quicker. There are games going on in circles that we can only
> imagine and the proof is how little sense some of SVA recent ups and
> downs have made.
> It will go up and it will go back down when MM needs it to. They'll
> dump a bunch of shares, drive the price down and then buy em back,
> plus yours if you get weak in the knees or...they'll buy a whole bunch
> of shares and drive the price up, so then some swingers will sell out,
> the price will drop and they'll buy up those shares cheap. The process
> seems pretty clear. Either A, B, or some of each A+B. The guarantee I
> think is not to expect good or bad news to do what it should to the
> PPS. MM has SVA by the balls and will continue to milk it, if you
> will, until there is a better set to...well...squeeze.

> Hang in there, the lower it goes, the more you buy. You're buying
> shares of a winner over time.
> If you're a swinger, there are probably better stocks out there for
> you.
> SVA is for longs and has to put up with the bitch MMs.
> I'm just really curious how deeply the MM are in bed with all the
> brokers. Their software, together with the information on broker sites
> about what you are going to sell or buy, is probably very useful to
> make their manipulation decisions.

> I think everyone should put in limit sell orders for all their shares
> at insane amounts like 308.72/share etc. and buy orders for millions
> of shares with amounts like 0.0035 just to confuse their software.
> I'll bet that if hundreds of people did that,  they would get bad data
> into their software, and not be able to do "their work" ...to us... so
> easily.

> JMO ....fingers are tired now

> Good people of SVA - Good news and/or bad news does not have the
> expected effects on SVA PPS. Can't you remember just a few weeks ago,
> they had a HUGE profit increase and good lots of good future news...
> What happened?...the price dropped a buck over a short period of time.
> Bad news is good, good news is bad. News is really irrelevant...Don't
> use news from the company, or Jim C, or imbecile bashers who can even
> put together a grammatically correct english sentence to guide your
> investment decisions. The MM has SVA under its thumb. The Chinese have
> no idea how seasoned capitalists can operate...yet!

> SVA is a solid company in a culture that we, the West, really don't
> understand much about, and that is going through major transformations
> in the last ten years....and through the next twenty years. Remember
> they were the first with the vaccine. They have a fine pipeline and
> are expanding production and output. SVA is up, I think it was over
> 400%,  for the year.

> Good news would be that the bloodsucker MMs moved onto something they
> thought they could defile more than SVA and take care of their yacht
> payments quicker. There are games going on in circles that we can only
> imagine and the proof is how little sense some of SVA recent ups and
> downs have made.
> It will go up and it will go back down when MM needs it to. They'll
> dump a bunch of shares, drive the price down and then buy em back,
> plus yours if you get weak in the knees or...they'll buy a whole bunch
> of shares and drive the price up, so then some swingers will sell out,
> the price will drop and they'll buy up those shares cheap. The process
> seems pretty clear. Either A, B, or some of each A+B. The guarantee I
> think is not to expect good or bad news to do what it should to the
> PPS. MM has SVA by the balls and will continue to milk it, if you
> will, until there is a better set to...well...squeeze.

> Hang in there, the lower it goes, the more you buy. You're buying
> shares of a winner over time.
> If you're a swinger, there are probably better stocks out there for
> you.
> SVA is for longs and has to put up with the bitch MMs.
> I'm just really curious how deeply the MM are in bed with all the
> brokers. Their software, together with the information on broker sites
> about what you are going to sell or buy, is probably very useful to
> make their manipulation decisions.

> I think everyone should put in limit sell orders for all their shares
> at insane amounts like 308.72/share etc. and buy orders for millions
> of shares with amounts like 0.0035 just to confuse their software.
> I'll bet that if hundreds of people did that,  they would get bad data
> into their software, and not be able to do "their work" ...to us... so
> easily.

> JMO ....fingers are tired now

> Disappointed and sad!!!!!!!!!

> Mine is about 10 of cost, loss of lots of money on SVA!

> I am very disappointed with management of lacking of long-term
> strategy.

> Hope SVA will be the buying objective of some big giants!!!!!!

> On Dec 2, 1:57 pm, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Haitao, sometimes a little extra fund could be powerful.

> > Early this year, everything dropped too low.  did not sell those that
> > I bet would go up.  Instead, I wired extra fund to pick up SVA (which
> > dropped to less than $1) and a few others.  That extra fund played
> > magic.

> > I smell a big SVA rally early next year.  Before that, there could be
> > jumps and a small possibility of deeper dip (some people will dump for
> > their reasons and MM can lure the dumping).  You can sell some to the
> > jumps.  Should it went deep, buy some, averaging higher cost.

> > SVA is a forever long term deal.
> > After H1N1, I am very sure we will need vaccine for new challenges.

> > On Dec 2, 11:37 am, JimA <jame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > With good transparency, a stock with challenges still can go up.  My
> > > another holding A123 shot up 17% days ago, even if it will not be
> > > profitable within a year, its technology is alleged to be infringing,
> > > and its researching cost is increasing.

> > > Such presentation from very profitable SVA can increase transparency,
> > > winning trust.  Other stake holders might want to help SVA such as
> > > Dalian port group brought production space to SVA.

> > > Agree with jd.  Beyond CEO's negative start, I see SVA's solid future
> > > growth.  Only H1N1 vaccine is pending expot.
> > > Q3 net increase of 600% only included 0.586 million doses H1N1 vaccine
> > > from the order of 12.49 million and a small part of prepay.

> > > Although H1N1 could let next two earnings jump over the moon, SVA can
> > > earn more from other vaccines such as the animal vaccine.
> > > Last week when China found H1N1 in pig and dog, its major media
> > > suddenly removed H1N1 reports and replaced with AIDs reports in order
> > > to not cause fear.  This week, China started working on animals.

> > > Absolutely will hold and buy more SVA in hopes and dips.

> > > On Dec 2, 10:52 am, "wf.wfchen" <wf.wfc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > where can I listen to the presentation?- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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