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2009-09-03T19:26:55Z

Longs like me love it. This stock is amazingly predictable

Priced 60% of book Value. EPS Q2: 0,1. Adding to workforce. Building
up a whole new business.

Slowly and steady 2 steps forward and one step back. Week after week
month after month. Steady moving up, and lots of potential still
there. For a long like me it doesnt get any better. Traders hate it,

Re: earnings report coming soon

2009-08-17T14:39:20Z

It probably will

Chuck if You are interested in CNTF and follow the stock. This place
is unfortunately drowned in spam. Check message board at Yahoo. (Cant
link because google will not allow). Much more substance in
discussions "over there"

earnings report coming soon

2009-08-17T14:05:18Z

hope it will be favorable!

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Your take on OneNet?

2009-07-15T14:20:53Z

Number of Employees in OneNet is 130

Mr Jay Ji kindly responded on an email from me. Number of employees
in
TechFaith is only 400 not 700

OneNet then is a big business-area for TechFaith

In another discussion: Undervalued by Factor 2, I have calculated a
fair shareprice based on estimated EPS for TechFaith to be 3.90. In

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Re: Undervalued by factor 2

2009-07-10T08:37:03Z

Thanks Animecel

I agree of course. In my initial calculations I havn´t included
anything at all from OneNet division. If they add to TechFaith overall
earnings and EPS for second quarter gets beyond 0.06 USD/Share it´s
even more undervalued. (earnings release 08/18-2009)

But we must not forget that in may 2005 TechFaith was a company with

Re: Undervalued by factor 2

2009-07-01T08:38:11Z

I did some homework on this one. This stock is incredibly attractive.

CNTF (China Techfaith Wireless Communication)

2009 Q1 profit surge 157%
Source: [link]

HSUPA data modem card into the U.S. market, with availability in the

Re: Bizar market reaction

2009-06-08T12:01:02Z

Thanks!

Profit taking is a solid practice. With earnings continuing to
increase dramatically... I am holding for long term results.

=Nerd

Re: Undervalued by factor 2

2009-06-03T00:49:42Z

hanneogtho...@mail.tele.dk,

Thanks for that calculation reference (save me time :-). I totally
agree with you..this stock is waaaaay undervalue, it have a lot of
potential, it will shoot up to $5 in no time. I’m going long with this
one.

Undervalued by factor 2

2009-05-30T14:24:54Z

Some calculations:

Last 4 Quarters of earnings:
9Q1: 0.05
8Q4: 0.02
8Q3: 0.01
8Q2: 0.09
==> Earnings per share: 0.17

If Fair price with One Net entertaiment in mind is P/E = 15 (Thats
conservative in my wiew)
And if statement from Second Quarter 2009 Outlook:
"TechFaith currently expects revenue to be in the range of US$45

Re: Bizar market reaction

2009-05-28T13:59:02Z

CNTF has a management that is top notch. They have pulled a cell phone
company out of the dolldrums for 1 year and made them work well.

They are a company poised for large growth and very likely a buyout
soon.

Good call, Nerd.

Girls love cellphones too,
Christi

Re: Bizar market reaction

2009-05-21T08:03:09Z

It's called get a grip. Why do people react to one day's profit
taking. Bizarre you say. No. This is a gem.
$100 stock in 10 years? Who knows...

=Nerd

Bizar market reaction

2009-05-11T16:01:24Z

CNTF seem to get a grip on a very exciting new business area (In their
business): Game-features for mobilephone -like - devices
And having their partners in that business in place

In a country with 630 mio cellphoneusers.

One-child policy with consequence of an entire generation of "spoiled"

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-04-25T11:21:36Z

Because of rise in earnings

50 Years ago big companies reported earnings in millions. Today in
billions. 50 Years from now the biggest ones probably in trillions.
Part of that is inflation.
Part of is due to productivity increases due to more skilled
workforce, improved technology, more advanced design of production

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-04-24T20:55:22Z

but don't you see? Why would anyone buy shares to reach the point of P/
E if no one would want to buy higher than that? They can't sell the
shares for a higher prices so why buy it? There's no reason to, and so
there'd be no reason to buy from them, etc etc, and so the entire
thing is just a pyramid scheme

Where do we go from here?

2009-04-23T19:18:35Z

After a couple of days with heavy volume and uptrend, hangover comes
in?
Or?

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-20T14:58:24Z

Exactly there you are right. P/E cant go up over time. THEY have to
remaine stable.
And they have traditionally been in an area between 10 - 15. Thats
fairly price in ordinary/standard environent.

P/E in Techfaith is 6 and change, and thats to my opinion very cheap.
(To compare, it is similar to put your money in the bank and get a 14%

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-19T22:38:43Z

but...P/E can't go up infinitely can it???!!! Which is why it's a
ponzi scheme, because once the share prices reaches "proper value"
there's no reason to buy more beyond the P/E, and so then it tanks and
people who bought there lose, and the people who bought below them
lose, etc etc... and this is the ONLY way that stock prices go up =

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-18T20:41:02Z

Oh Yes

And Dow in 1964: 800, 1970: 800, 1975: 800, 1982: 800 proves that its
flat as a pancake

You can prove many things that way

Try to scale the last 100 years logarithmic, and you will see a
relatively stable development

General P/E´s are fair (But uncertain at the time)

Take a look at CNTF

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-18T19:39:10Z

the lowest point in the Dow in 2002 was 7528.40, the lowest it
reached in March this year was 6626.94

you have not refuted this simple fact that proves that the stock
market is a ponzi scheme:

***share prices can't go up infinitely, they must drop eventually
because it requires infinitely increasing liquidity. This is

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-12T15:11:53Z

Blissful is the simple-minded (translation from an old saying in
Denmark)

I choose to be an optimist. Call me simple-minded. I´m happy.
Self-deluted? No.

Dow in 2000? Perhaps:
[link]

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-11T22:37:50Z

yes they switch hands from time to time just like how a limited amount
of money switches hands from time to time, from the losers to the
winners

Jesus Christ the self-delusion is incredible. Societies don't tend to
grow "richer and richer" they contract all the time as well, which
means that companies don't grow infinitely more and more and more

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-03-03T15:40:36Z

China Techfaith Wireless rocks so get over it.

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-24T23:54:59Z

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-18T20:47:08Z

The point is that the stock market, BY
NATURE, is A PONZI SCHEME. Because it REQUIRES people to LOSE THEIR
MONEY, in order for others to win money!

No it doesnt!
Stockmarkets is by nature a market were all participants own a "share"
of companies involved. And these shares switch hands from time to

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-18T19:26:58Z

many reasons, contraction, deleverating. We had a speculative bubble
since 2001 with interest rates down to 1% since then, created a giant
housing and financial bubble, based on malinvestment and speculation.
And now we see the economy contracting and adapting to lower demand

this is SO MEANINGLESS. What does this have to do with the Ponzi

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-17T19:29:01Z

You then have to convince me about one thing. The timing. Why will the
world stop growing right now?

Economy have grown since poeple in Africa found a way to storage
grain. After that they didnt have to hunt and collect to survive. They
could stay and improve there suroundings.

Thats more than 8000 years ago

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-17T18:52:08Z

LOL! YOU PEOPLE ARE SO SELF-DELUDED!

Nice job of "finding the bottom" losers! Just look at the Dow it's
tanked lower than the November "bottom"!

When are you going to learn that the only way the Dow can go up higher
and higher is for MORE and MORE money to be injected into the market
than before. Infinitely increasing liquidity is IMPOSSIBLE

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-17T18:50:19Z

LOL! It's not a zero-sum game because it's not a zero-sum game, nice
logic

LOL! meaningless! "growth" = implying an infinitely increasing share
price and profits, hence the buying and selling at higher and higher
prices

this is absolutely not true at all. Societies contract and shrink all

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-13T00:58:18Z

Yes Christi.

Common sence is coming back to markets. World is not falling aparts.

I just saw this header on Bloomberg "Money-TV": "China's eceonomy
shows signs of recovery as stimulus package takes effect"

IF that is right (And thats a big IF), then we already have seen the
buttom

I know its very early (And probably pretty stupid) to call a buttom,

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-08T21:03:56Z

Oh No

Its not wrong just because I said so

The Ponzi-idea is wrong because it requires stock markets to be a zero-
sum game.

And its is not. Thats Why.

In the single trade perhaps it is, but in the long run: No

Why: Because of growth.

Societies tends to grow richer decede for decade. The reasons I have

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-08T20:01:48Z

sigh, this is NOT AN ARGUMENT to PROVE me wrong about the Ponzi nature
of the stock market

infact, the stock market NEEDS "bad moods" i.e. LOSERS, in order for
others to win!

WTF? This is NOT PROOF. The only reason stocks go up is because
buyers and sellers expect to buy and sell AT HIGHER AND HIGHER PRICES

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-07T09:35:13Z

Yes Truth.seeker I certainly can read

But the Ponzi-Idea I already have rejected elsewhere as a Phantom.
A product of the resent Ultra-Bad-Mood Psycology manifested all
around.

I - To my own believe prooved it to be false in the tread: Braking
through 50 days moving ave. this time?

Arguments alredy presented there. There is nothing in it. The theory

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-07T07:50:04Z

pft nonsense, Europe and particularly Britain and most Scandinavian
countries and Central Europe, and Russia with its 15:6 ratio of male
to female suiciders or something around that, the men there still get
taken to the cleaners

can't you read? The Stock Market is a goddamn fraudulent Ponzi, and

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-07T07:40:29Z

NEWS FLASH: "EleaofGondawa" is actually "christihak...@gmail.com"

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-07T07:33:50Z

srcho, that irrelevent to what he said. You implied that it was
somehow still legitimate and productive and not a Ponzi, which a stock
market is

and it being more treacherous is even MORE reason not to do it, let
alone its utter thievery

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-04T18:34:09Z

Hi Guys

srcho.. and pmortaz

cool of a bit

Sentiments in the States must be worse than here in Europe. We still
keep our heads up.
And apparently have a more relaxed and balanced view at the balance
between sexes.

I also believe you in US could learn a lot from European/Danish
wellfaresystems

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-04T04:58:44Z

I was actually calling the stock market more treacherous than a Ponzi
scheme you sociopath dipshit.

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-04T01:13:46Z

yeah, men REALLY HAVE EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT! They have ALL THE CRAP
that society dishes out to them

LOL! yeah and I can see how:

- exclusive social services paid by men for women

- outrageous custody and alimony deals

- exclusive and extensive health funding

- ability to have sex with younger boys like how female teachers are

Re: Common Sense finally coming back to the market?

2009-02-04T01:12:55Z

LOL, I think "EleaofGondawa" a.k.a "Christi" blocked me because I
can't reply to her silly comment, all I get is "We were unable to post
your message" even though I replied to "srcho" just fine as you can
see above this comment, so I'm going to reply to Christi's silly
comment without clicking on her reply button: