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From: jalwaa.jo...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 31 2008 11:53 pm
Subject: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
As a personal act of showing solidarity with Tibetan people, I am
boycotting any investment in chinese stocks. I owned FXI and now I am dumping it all. I just want to show that I support democratic and human rights for peaceful people of Tibet. Political instability also adds more volatility in chinese market,
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From: be.1.milliona...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 22:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 4 2008 1:04 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in
your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from China. Oops, just notice you posted on Apr. 1st. Really a good joke, Dude... You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: grimwo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 9 2008 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
I dumped it as well---
Thought I could deal with a little sweatshop blood and government
then I looked in the mirror and remembered that I could not in good
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From: maytag <stratcom.su...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 11 2008 3:09 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
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From: j...@schira.cc
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 18 2008 4:29 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
Why was there no boycotting of Israeli stocks when their tanks ran
over an american girl in Gaza? Strange! You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 22 2008 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
be.1.milliona...@gmail.com wrote:
You have stumbled onto the danger of allowing China full access to the
> Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in > your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you > used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from > China. international market and the reduction of trade barriers. The group- thinking politicians all believe that free trade makes the world safer because trading partners don't go to war with each other. But that is when trade it equal, not just free. China produces all the cheap products of the world because they have a system where the tiny minority hold all the power and money and the poor work for very little, willingly for the most part because of the nationalistic and racist drum beating of their elite. The Chinese people do not see the difference, for instance, between criticizing the Chinese government and racist fear/loathing against the Chinese people as a race. It is all one to them, so that when the West protests Tibet and Darfur, they take it personally as if the world is saying Chinese PEOPLE are bad. Ask anyone, even the poorest, about Tibet and/or Taiwan and imediately you will get the Party line, that they are China's, even though not very many mainland Chinese have been there or ever will go there, and despite the real history of both regions. That system of elite minority and masses of duped poor has been the method through all the permutations of government there since before Confucius. While it's true that we have our masses of duped in the West, and by this I mean the US, poor who feel their best interests are met by giving power to business and reducing taxes on the wealthy, it isn't as unanimous as it is in China. What results is a China with one voice, a Chinese diaspora that, though they escaped from the oppression of their country into more financially lucrative areas, support their country as if they believed the financial success of the few wealthy in their country sheds glory on the Chinese people and by extension them. It is like a whole people with Napoleon Complexes. We trade with them, and because we have let business dictate our policies, we are powerless and it can only get worse. The US has not suddenly become more intelligent that our majority can do "other jobs" than the manufacturing China has taken with their cheap labor. The average IQ is still 100 here. Women and men making cars or using machines to stamp boxes have not transformed into tech entrepreneurs. The combination of greedy business interests in the West and the Chinese (government, not people) system has undermined any real power we have over them as trading partners. And the all-pervasiveness of Chinese products in our country has made apathetic nihilists (such as the person who wrote the message to which I am replying) out of the majority of us. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 22 2008 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
be.1.milliona...@gmail.com wrote:
You have stumbled onto the danger of allowing China full access to the
> Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in > your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you > used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from > China. > Oops, just notice you posted on Apr. 1st. Really a good joke, Dude...
international market and the reduction of trade barriers. The group- thinking politicians all believe that free trade makes the world safer because trading partners don't go to war with each other. But that is when trade it equal, not just free. China produces all the cheap products of the world because they have a system where the tiny minority hold all the power and money and the poor work for very little, willingly for the most part because of the nationalistic and racist drum beating of their elite. The Chinese people do not see the difference, for instance, between criticizing the Chinese government and racist fear/loathing against the Chinese people as a race. It is all one to them, so that when the West protests Tibet and Darfur, they take it personally as if the world is saying Chinese PEOPLE are bad. Ask anyone, even the poorest, about Tibet and/or Taiwan and imediately you will get the Party line, that they are China's, even though not very many mainland Chinese have been there or ever will go there, and despite the real history of both regions. That system of elite minority and masses of duped poor has been the method through all the permutations of government there since before Confucius. While it's true that we have our masses of duped in the West, and by this I mean the US, poor who feel their best interests are met by giving power to business and reducing taxes on the wealthy, it isn't as unanimous as it is in China. What results is a China with one voice, a Chinese diaspora that, though they escaped from the oppression of their country into more financially lucrative areas, support their country as if they believed the financial success of the few wealthy in their country sheds glory on the Chinese people and by extension them. It is like a whole people with Napoleon Complexes. We trade with them, and because we have let business dictate our policies, we are powerless and it can only get worse. The US has not suddenly become more intelligent that our majority can do "other jobs" than the manufacturing China has taken with their cheap labor. The average IQ is still 100 here. Women and men making cars or using machines to stamp boxes have not transformed into tech entrepreneurs. The combination of greedy business interests in the West and the Chinese (government, not people) system has undermined any real power we have over them as trading partners. And the all-pervasiveness of Chinese products in our country has made apathetic nihilists (such as the person who wrote the message to which I am replying) out of the majority of us. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: joshuas...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:03:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
I read it from a website and think worth to share it here.
When we were the Sick Man of Asia, We were called The Yellow Peril. When we are billed to be the next Superpower, we are called The When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets. When we embrace Free Trade, You blame us for taking away your jobs. When we were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your When we tried to put the broken pieces back together again, Free Tibet When tried Communism, you hated us for being Communist. When we embrace Capitalism, you hate us for being Capitalist. When we have a billion people, you said we were destroying the planet. When we tried limiting our numbers, you said we abused human rights. When we were poor, you thought we were dogs. When we loan you cash, you blame us for your national debts. When we build our industries, you call us Polluters. When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming. When we buy oil, you call it exploitation and genocide. When you go to war for oil, you call it liberation. When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you demanded rules of law. When we uphold law and order against violence, you call it violating When we were silent, you said you wanted us to have free speech. When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed-xenophobics. Why do you hate us so much, we asked. No, you answered, we don't hate you. We don't hate you either, But, do you understand us? Of course we do, you said, We have AFP, CNN and BBC's... What do you really want from us? Think hard first, then answer... Because you only get so many chances. Enough is Enough, Enough Hypocrisy for This One World. We want One World, One Dream, and Peace on Earth. This Big Blue Earth is Big Enough for all of Us. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: msaghi...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
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From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 7 2008 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
You have quoted/regurgitated this rant like a good nationalist hate-
monger. The Party would be proud. joshuas...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure what you mean here, unless it be disease and which one you
> I read it from a website and think worth to share it here. > When we were the Sick Man of Asia, We were called The Yellow Peril.
are referring to isn't clear. > When we are billed to be the next Superpower, we are called The
is a mistake most mainland Chinese make that criticism of your "government" is a racial attack on your people. It isn't, but the CCP wants you to believe this. > When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets.
issue of the UK and your former royal house, isn't it? > When we embrace Free Trade, You blame us for taking away your jobs.
from the US, I blame US companies for rushing to exploit the lower wages of the poor in your country by abandoning US workers that require treatment as human beings due to regulations, making you and the few rich in China. True, that means those not making anything before China opened up are making more money relative to before, but they are still dirt poor and that is what you and the wealthy in China have to keep them in order to continue as the worlds factory. It isn't your skills at making Wal*Mart items that the companies want, it's your cheap, unregulated labor. > When we were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your
That is the danger of China, unthinking nationalists who equate the rest of the world as enemies. > When we tried to put the broken pieces back together again, Free Tibet
Chinese mantra of One China all you want, but Tibet is a separate country, just as Taiwan is, though mainland China has been roused by nationalistic rallying to claim them as "their" own. It was a ruse to take your mind off your miserable plight and you still believe in it. > When tried Communism, you hated us for being Communist.
your government called itself communist. > When we embrace Capitalism, you hate us for being Capitalist.
of things to rant about. > When we have a billion people, you said we were destroying the planet.
good start. Despite your relative lack of automobiles you surpass the US in carbon emissions. Your unregulated industry is distroying the world (as is the US, of course, no denying that) > When we tried limiting our numbers, you said we abused human rights.
> When we were poor, you thought we were dogs.
round eye devils. > When we loan you cash, you blame us for your national debts.
> When we build our industries, you call us Polluters.
> When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming.
> When we buy oil, you call it exploitation and genocide.
the mass killings and just pump "its" oil. > When you go to war for oil, you call it liberation.
China always defends itself by saying, "I know you are, but what am I". We've always had a movement in this country to STOP the Iraq war. No such thing in China to stop the exploitation of Darfur, is there? > When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you demanded rules of law.
> When we uphold law and order against violence, you call it violating
> When we were silent, you said you wanted us to have free speech.
Ha ha ha. "Silent". You still don't have free speech. I would like for
you to have it, but obviously the educated population thinks it is best not to have to speak freely but to mime the Party line such as your quoted rant is doing. > When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed-xenophobics.
lines. Quoting an Olympic mantra doesn't change anything. You can't white wash the actions of your government any more than we in the west can. Your government doesn't want one world, it wants to maintain its power. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: CheecB...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, May 9 2008 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
jalwaa.jo...@gmail.com wrote: I'll buy them at 85 USD.
> As a personal act of showing solidarity with Tibetan people, I am > boycotting any investment in chinese stocks. > I owned FXI and now I am dumping it all. > I just want to show that I support democratic and human rights for > peaceful people of Tibet. > Political instability also adds more volatility in chinese market, You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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