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jalwaa.jo...@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 31 2008, 11:53 pm
From: jalwaa.jo...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 31 2008 11:53 pm
Subject: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
As a personal act of showing solidarity with Tibetan people, I am
boycotting any investment in chinese stocks.
I owned FXI and now I am dumping it all.
I just want to show that I support democratic and human rights for
peaceful people of Tibet.

Political instability also adds more volatility in chinese market,
which is at the mercy of communist government which rolled tanks on
protesting students in late 90s.


 
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From: be.1.milliona...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 22:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 4 2008 1:04 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in
your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you
used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from
China.

Oops, just notice you posted on Apr. 1st. Really a good joke, Dude...


 
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 More options Apr 9 2008, 1:08 pm
From: grimwo...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 9 2008 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
I dumped it as well---

Thought I could deal with a little sweatshop blood and government
censorship--

then I looked in the mirror and remembered that I could not in good
conscious tell my daughter that I built her college fund by investing
in a tyrannical government...


 
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From: maytag <stratcom.su...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 11 2008 3:09 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
Morality has no place in investing.

 
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From: j...@schira.cc
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 18 2008 4:29 am
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
Why was there no boycotting of Israeli stocks when their tanks ran
over an american girl in Gaza?  Strange!


 
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 More options Apr 22 2008, 1:02 pm
From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 22 2008 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks

be.1.milliona...@gmail.com wrote:
> Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in
> your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you
> used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from
> China.

You have stumbled onto the danger of allowing China full access to the
international market and the reduction of trade barriers. The group-
thinking politicians all believe that free trade makes the world safer
because trading partners don't go to war with each other. But that is
when trade it equal, not just free. China produces all the cheap
products of the world because they have a system where the tiny
minority hold all the power and money and the poor work for very
little, willingly for the most part because of the nationalistic and
racist drum beating of their elite. The Chinese people do not see the
difference, for instance, between criticizing the Chinese government
and racist fear/loathing against the Chinese people as a race. It is
all one to them, so that when the West protests Tibet and Darfur, they
take it personally as if the world is saying Chinese PEOPLE are bad.
Ask anyone, even the poorest, about Tibet and/or Taiwan and imediately
you will get the Party line, that they are China's, even though not
very many mainland Chinese have been there or ever will go there, and
despite the real history of both regions. That system of elite
minority and masses of duped poor has been the method through all the
permutations of government there since before Confucius. While it's
true that we have our masses of duped in the West, and by this I mean
the US, poor who feel their best interests are met by giving power to
business and reducing taxes on the wealthy, it isn't as unanimous as
it is in China. What results is a China with one voice, a Chinese
diaspora that, though they escaped from the oppression of their
country into more financially lucrative areas, support their country
as if they believed the financial success of the few wealthy in their
country sheds glory on the Chinese people and by extension them. It is
like a whole people with Napoleon Complexes. We trade with them, and
because we have let business dictate our policies, we are powerless
and it can only get worse. The US has not suddenly become more
intelligent that our majority can do "other jobs" than the
manufacturing China has taken with their cheap labor. The average IQ
is still 100 here. Women and men making cars or using machines to
stamp boxes have not transformed into tech entrepreneurs. The
combination of greedy business interests in the West and the Chinese
(government, not people) system has undermined any real power we have
over them as trading partners. And the all-pervasiveness of Chinese
products in our country has made apathetic nihilists (such as the
person who wrote the message to which I am replying) out of the
majority of us.

 
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 More options Apr 22 2008, 1:10 pm
From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 22 2008 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks

be.1.milliona...@gmail.com wrote:
> Please, to show your support, don't dump the FXI only, look around in
> your house and also dump everything from China. And the computer you
> used to post this message, DUMP it, at least 90% of the parts are from
> China.

> Oops, just notice you posted on Apr. 1st. Really a good joke, Dude...

You have stumbled onto the danger of allowing China full access to the
international market and the reduction of trade barriers. The group-
thinking politicians all believe that free trade makes the world safer
because trading partners don't go to war with each other. But that is
when trade it equal, not just free. China produces all the cheap
products of the world because they have a system where the tiny
minority hold all the power and money and the poor work for very
little, willingly for the most part because of the nationalistic and
racist drum beating of their elite. The Chinese people do not see the
difference, for instance, between criticizing the Chinese government
and racist fear/loathing against the Chinese people as a race. It is
all one to them, so that when the West protests Tibet and Darfur, they
take it personally as if the world is saying Chinese PEOPLE are bad.
Ask anyone, even the poorest, about Tibet and/or Taiwan and imediately
you will get the Party line, that they are China's, even though not
very many mainland Chinese have been there or ever will go there, and
despite the real history of both regions. That system of elite
minority and masses of duped poor has been the method through all the
permutations of government there since before Confucius. While it's
true that we have our masses of duped in the West, and by this I mean
the US, poor who feel their best interests are met by giving power to
business and reducing taxes on the wealthy, it isn't as unanimous as
it is in China. What results is a China with one voice, a Chinese
diaspora that, though they escaped from the oppression of their
country into more financially lucrative areas, support their country
as if they believed the financial success of the few wealthy in their
country sheds glory on the Chinese people and by extension them. It is
like a whole people with Napoleon Complexes. We trade with them, and
because we have let business dictate our policies, we are powerless
and it can only get worse. The US has not suddenly become more
intelligent that our majority can do "other jobs" than the
manufacturing China has taken with their cheap labor. The average IQ
is still 100 here. Women and men making cars or using machines to
stamp boxes have not transformed into tech entrepreneurs. The
combination of greedy business interests in the West and the Chinese
(government, not people) system has undermined any real power we have
over them as trading partners. And the all-pervasiveness of Chinese
products in our country has made apathetic nihilists (such as the
person who wrote the message to which I am replying) out of the
majority of us.

 
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 More options Apr 24 2008, 3:03 pm
From: joshuas...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:03:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 24 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
I read it from a website and think worth to share it here.

When we were the Sick Man of Asia, We were called The Yellow Peril.

When we are billed to be the next Superpower, we are called The
Threat.

When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets.

When we embrace Free Trade, You blame us for taking away your jobs.

When we were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your
fair share.

When we tried to put the broken pieces back together again, Free Tibet
you screamed, It Was an Invasion!

When tried Communism, you hated us for being Communist.

When we embrace Capitalism, you hate us for being Capitalist.

When we have a billion people, you said we were destroying the planet.

When we tried limiting our numbers, you said we abused human rights.

When we were poor, you thought we were dogs.

When we loan you cash, you blame us for your national debts.

When we build our industries, you call us Polluters.

When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming.

When we buy oil, you call it exploitation and genocide.

When you go to war for oil, you call it liberation.

When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you demanded rules of law.

When we uphold law and order against violence, you call it violating
human rights.

When we were silent, you said you wanted us to have free speech.

When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed-xenophobics.

Why do you hate us so much, we asked.

No, you answered, we don't hate you.

We don't hate you either,

But, do you understand us?

Of course we do, you said, We have AFP, CNN and BBC's...

What do you really want from us?

Think hard first, then answer...

Because you only get so many chances.

Enough is Enough, Enough Hypocrisy for This One World.

We want One World, One Dream, and Peace on Earth.

This Big Blue Earth is Big Enough for all of Us.


 
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From: msaghi...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 10:00 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
From your lips to gods ears joshuas!!!! These fucking hypocrites make
me sick.

 
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 More options May 7 2008, 12:48 pm
From: elvish <sera.ndipity.2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 7 2008 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks
You have quoted/regurgitated this rant like a good nationalist hate-
monger. The Party would be proud.

joshuas...@gmail.com wrote:
> I read it from a website and think worth to share it here.

> When we were the Sick Man of Asia, We were called The Yellow Peril.

Not sure what you mean here, unless it be disease and which one you
are referring to isn't clear.

> When we are billed to be the next Superpower, we are called The
> Threat.

The Chinese government poses a threat to the world, this is true. It
is a mistake most mainland Chinese make that criticism of your
"government" is a racial attack on your people. It isn't, but the CCP
wants you to believe this.

> When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets.

Here you are talking about opium, no doubt, and then that is mostly an
issue of the UK and your former royal house, isn't it?

> When we embrace Free Trade, You blame us for taking away your jobs.

I don't blame China, not even the government there, for taking jobs
from the US, I blame US companies for rushing to exploit the lower
wages of the poor in your country by abandoning US workers that
require treatment as human beings due to regulations, making you and
the few rich in China. True, that means those not making anything
before China opened up are making more money relative to before, but
they are still dirt poor and that is what you and the wealthy in China
have to keep them in order to continue as the worlds factory. It isn't
your skills at making Wal*Mart items that the companies want, it's
your cheap, unregulated labor.

> When we were falling apart, You marched in your troops and wanted your
> fair share.

Oh, you mean like Japan? Is it China against the world, in your mind?
That is the danger of China, unthinking nationalists who equate the
rest of the world as enemies.

> When we tried to put the broken pieces back together again, Free Tibet
> you screamed, It Was an Invasion!

It was. You can quote what China Central TV says to you and the
Chinese mantra of One China all you want, but Tibet is a separate
country, just as Taiwan is, though mainland China has been roused by
nationalistic rallying to claim them as "their" own. It was a ruse to
take your mind off your miserable plight and you still believe in it.

> When tried Communism, you hated us for being Communist.

That was never communism. I never hated "you" (the Chinese) because
your government called itself communist.

> When we embrace Capitalism, you hate us for being Capitalist.

No comment. This is a gratuitous jab when the original author was out
of things to rant about.

> When we have a billion people, you said we were destroying the planet.

You have 10 of the top 20 most polluted cities in the world. That's a
good start. Despite your relative lack of automobiles you surpass the
US in carbon emissions. Your unregulated industry is distroying the
world (as is the US, of course, no denying that)

> When we tried limiting our numbers, you said we abused human rights.

Again, gratuitous and pointless.

> When we were poor, you thought we were dogs.

Again, this is a ridiculous fling. You called us running dogs and
round eye devils.

> When we loan you cash, you blame us for your national debts.

No one is doing that, so this again is gratuitous.

> When we build our industries, you call us Polluters.

Answered above.  You are polluters.

> When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming.

What? The original author is not very creative.

> When we buy oil, you call it exploitation and genocide.

Darfur. China refuses to exert influence there and prefers to accept
the mass killings and just pump "its" oil.

> When you go to war for oil, you call it liberation.

Whatever. I'm not a Republican and didn't vote for this president, but
China always defends itself by saying, "I know you are, but what am
I". We've always had a movement in this country to STOP the Iraq war.
No such thing in China to stop the exploitation of Darfur, is there?

> When we were lost in chaos and rampage, you demanded rules of law.

Drivel.

> When we uphold law and order against violence, you call it violating
> human rights.

When you execute hundreds, you mean.

> When we were silent, you said you wanted us to have free speech.

Ha ha ha. "Silent". You still don't have free speech. I would like for
you to have it, but obviously the educated population thinks it is
best not to have to speak freely but to mime the Party line such as
your quoted rant is doing.

> When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed-xenophobics.

Just the nationalistic hate-mongers such as the author of your quoted
lines.

Quoting an Olympic mantra doesn't change anything. You can't white
wash the actions of your government any more than we in the west can.
Your government doesn't want one world, it wants to maintain its power.

 
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 More options May 9 2008, 11:06 pm
From: CheecB...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, May 9 2008 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: Tibet issue: Boycott Chinese stocks

jalwaa.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
> As a personal act of showing solidarity with Tibetan people, I am
> boycotting any investment in chinese stocks.
> I owned FXI and now I am dumping it all.
> I just want to show that I support democratic and human rights for
> peaceful people of Tibet.

> Political instability also adds more volatility in chinese market,
> which is at the mercy of communist government which rolled tanks on
> protesting students in late 90s.

I'll buy them at 85 USD.

 
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