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damarcop...@gmail.com  
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 10:35 am
From: damarcop...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 20 2008 10:35 am
Subject: NMX SAGA CONTINUES
The saga continues -> Insiders exercising their cheap options and
selling the stock -> paying members less fees -> while retail
shareholder like me struggle -> i still cant understand why the hurry
to sell NYMEX when the whole world is screamming for lack of raw
materials and commodities (which NYMEX enables to trade). SEC needs to
review this proposal before CME buysNYMEX cheaply.


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 More options Jul 23 2008, 1:35 pm
From: damarcop...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: NMX SAGA CONTINUES
I am with Mr.Capozza on this. The volumes are rising in NYMEX
platform, the revenues are ebing reported in record levels thansk to
the booming commodities markets which buoys the trades on NYMEX. But
one deosnt see the multiples EV/REV whenit comes to CME buying NYMEX.
I  still dont understand the logic behind this deal excpet that the
NYMEX senrior mgmt can make lot of dough with this sales. An anguished
individual investor.

NYMEX needs to review this deal from the value it brings to the table
instead of looking at the sharp in price of CME. Lets hope that DOJ
and SEC intervene and review this deal. Let main street make some
money instead of wall street for a change.


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Subject changed: Mr. Capozza's outlook is seriously flawed  
Ed R.  
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 More options Jul 27 2008, 8:02 pm
From: "Ed R." <reardon...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 27 2008 8:02 pm
Subject: Mr. Capozza's outlook is seriously flawed
Equity markets are priced based on discounted future cash flows. The
US is in the biggest oil bubble they have seen in 200 years. NYMEX is
doing between 1.1 and 1.4 million contracts a day because of the boom
in oil prices. If this deal does not go through are you confident that
oil will continue in a bubble for the next 4 years ? Because without
this deal with the CME that is exactly the bet that NYMEX shareholders
will have to make. If Nymex averages 1.3 million contracts a day for
the month of July are you willing to bet that they will average 1.56
million contracts a day in July of 2009 and 1.87 million contracts a
day in 2010 ? Do you honestly believe that oil volume can grow at a
sustained 20 to 25 % volume growth from these current oil bubble
levels ? Because at 83 dollars a share NYMEX is currently trading at
33 times earnings. That is very rich. If NYMEX does not do the current
CME deal and anything happens in the next 3 years that causes NYMEX's
volume to stop growing at 25 % then the market will price in the
future cash flows to the tune of about 12 to 15 times earnings and the
stock price of NYMEX shareholders will take a huge hit. If this is
such a bad deal for NYMEX shareholders why hasn't any other exchange
in the world countered with a better offer ? Why ? Because no one in
the free world believes oil volume can continue to grow at 25 % a year
for the next 10 years. Between the cost savings between the two
exchanges and the breadth of products these two firms would have
together this is a fair deal for CME shareholders and a fantastic deal
for NYMEX shareholders. Turn this deal down and I will bet everything
I own that two years from now CME gets NYMEX much cheaper.


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Subject changed: Mr. Capozza's gets it right  
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 More options Jul 28 2008, 4:15 pm
From: damarcop...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Mr. Capozza's gets it right
I understand DCF very well and other valuation  techniwues. the point
is not how much to what discount and at what rate? one cane judge very
well that the payout for the NYMEX execs was very high but furth
erprodding now the payout has been reduced to the execs and increased
to the floor members. an acquisition needs to show value in terms of
compltementary offerings, future potential etc. except for the few
cost cutting measure by moving the headquarters, retrenching employees
is not a good strategy for NYMEX (when it doing so well and is expcted
to do so). the commodities demand will be there. even if there is a
correction - there will be demand for commodities and nymex will do
well. we all can come up with fantastic numerical models with our own
assumptions to conclude whetehr the deal is under or over priced. btw,
p/e mulitples are good for wall street folks but not for shareholders
like me. When the timing was right the NYMEX execs did not act, now
they are giving a business that is doing so well. the underlying
principle of shareholder value seems to be lacing in this deal. Go
Mr.Capozza.


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Ed R.  
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 More options Jul 29 2008, 12:03 pm
From: "Ed R." <reardon...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 29 2008 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Capozza's gets it right
Outstanding crude oil futures contracts fell to the lowest level in 14
months as commercial traders and institutional investors exited the
oil market. I hope and pray Mr. Capozza's gets a big enough following
to kill the CME deal. As a CME shareholder I want no part of severely
overpaying for a 2 contract exchange whose volume has topped. Please
help to kill this deal so we can revisit NYMEX's volume numbers in 2
years.

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 More options Jul 31 2008, 1:26 pm
From: damarcop...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 31 2008 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Capozza's gets it right
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aKMBqjv_F36o&refe...

Quote from the above article -
"Some of the Nymex's 816 members say CME's offer is too low and have
threatened a proxy battle to replace management if the offer isn't
improved. Shareholder lawsuits have also been filed trying to stop the
deal."

When the members who work on the floor don't see value in this deal -
especially the price point of the deal - I as a nymex shareholder dont
see the value in the deal at this price point and exchange of shares
traded. Only time will tell (and no economist or analyst can predict
the future) whether the volumes go up or down.


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