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From: "ak1" <anujkum...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:23:54 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 4:23 pm
Subject: Earnings
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From: acea...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:39:50 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
Q4-06 EPS of $0.44 ! Exceeded analysts concensus forecast of $0.28 by
a HUGE margin. What do I think? This stock is CHEAP at $35.64 !!! I come up with a P/E ratio of 30.7 for the FY2006 (on a fully diluted basis). Factor in a >100% growth in 2007 earnings, this stock can easily go to $60 by years-end. Buy buy buy. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: adarsh.j...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:30:28 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
I don't understand the price drop in the after hours ?? :-/
Why is that ?? Can anybody draw some conclusion here on why the price is tumbling after hours??? You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "George3" <georgeth...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
Maybe the after-hours (AH) price drop has to do with:
1) Almost 6% run up in the stock during the regular trading day (granted, the market as a whole had a strong rally too) 2) Although earnings were out of the park, future guidance seemed mediocre/in-line (I'm just a beginner so I may be totally wrong but I've learned the market cares more about the future than the past) 3) AH can be unpredictable... I was watching a stock (SYKE) last night and it was up maybe 5 to 6% at most after announcing earnings - but at least twice came back equal to the closing price(!) .... then today, during regular trading it hit a high of 19.71 (a 23%+ gain from the previous day's close) 4) Given the high number of short sellers that seem to be still in this... maybe they are still in charge? You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: adarsh.j...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:46:13 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
Hope you r correct. Even about the future prospects I thought the CEO
mentioned atleast a 20% - 30% growth every year .... which is not bad in my view. Though it is AH I'm worried a bit at the price drop coz the volume is high. That's what is bothering me. Hope it is just some stupid guy unloading whole lot of his shares and not many. ;) You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jefferey Fennell" <jeffere...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:24:29 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
ok...Management stated they had over $50 million of backlogged sales
at the end of 2006...so we start at a base for 1Q of $50 becasue they would have been able to ship those items during the 1Q 07. If they can get $50 million in sales in 1Q07 a the current margins of 17%...and 28.3 million shares outstanding as stated in the CC...we are at $.30 a shares for 1Q...current est is .15. Additionally they stated they sold 6.2 million pairs of Heelys which translates to average revenue per shoe of $30...this 6.2 million was with backlogs of shoes due to production constraints. The stated in the call that they have current production ability of 1.2 to 1.4 million pairs a month....if they can sell 10 million pairs this year that is $300 million in revs for 07 and at a profit margin of 17%...that is 1.80 a share compared to current estimates of 1.21...that would be a beat of 50% on the current estimate. We beat today by 57% with production constraints. They also noted that they would use their production capabilities to possible add to the product line by adding straight shoes...no wheels...to their product lines. This is how I see heelys beating the FAD moniker and being a long term buy...that is what management knows and it seems they are going to utilize their facilities to maximize shareholder value. With a forward PE of 25...high end of management expected long- term growth rate of the company...stock deserves to be at least $45...but at this point it deserves a high PE of close to 30-40...$54 to $72...look for upgrades on Heelys and raised price expectations based on this first quarter of results...the stock was trading based on current estimates and got all the way to $40...next stop $50....after 1Q07 earnings...I listened to the call twice You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "directore" <jerzy.gierg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:47:42 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
adarsh.j...@gmail.com wrote: HLYS is a highly speculative stock, IPO was mostly with insiders > I don't understand the price drop in the after hours ?? :-/ > Why is that ?? > Can anybody draw some conclusion here on why the price is tumbling > after hours??? selling their allotments. A lot of people bought it with the intention of waiting for their first official earning report hoping to make some money with good timing. At this point all the speculative interest is gone or going, it will take some major event to turn it around imho. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jefferey Fennell" <jeffere...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:00:32 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
How is it highly speculative when it just crushed earnings and it has
positive growth...CROX has a market cap of twice Heelys. Additionally the stock has 35% of its float shorted...tomorrow morning there will be a reversal of fortunes from what has been seen in AH. The shorts will begin to cover as upgrades hit and some of the other analyst change their view on the future earnings potential of heelys...they are growing at over 300% and they are only trading at 4.5* revenues...There was a $40 price target on the stock with 06 EPS est at .95 and 07 earnings at 1.21...they had 1.16 eps for 06...if you only add what they beat 06 earnings by to next years eps that is 1.42...at a low PE of 30...that is $42 a share...expect to see a higher open than where we sit in AH....I think HLYS can do $1.80 in 07....at 30 multiple that is $54.I thought hlys would have .42...they beat that by .02...not one analyst had hlys earning .44 a shares...the speculation is out and the shorts are going t have to cover all the way through an ATH once the upgades hit. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: acea...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:17:03 -0800
Local: Tues, Mar 6 2007 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
Jefferey's got it right. This stock will surge - it's got everything
going for it. I estimate it will hit $60 sometime this year. I'm not paying too much attention to the afterhours trading. This stock will go up tomorrow. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "ak1" <anujkum...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:49:55 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Earnings
JP morgan just came out with an analyst report and it is looking
good. although this analyst does not give price targets he upped all his estimates and kept his overweight rating. i know i'm excited to see where this baby opens in the morning. my next question (assuming a nice run up tomorrow) is where do you sell the stock at? do you think we hold this for at least another quarter or dump it now? i know when i went to stores and asked about heelys before christmas a lot had sold out and afterwards had huge shipments coming in so i'm thinking Q1 could be good but i've also heard that they are starting to lose the fad appeal. I never know when to sell what i consider a fad stock. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jefferey Fennell" <jeffere...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:10:32 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 7:10 am
Subject: Re: Earnings
I have seen kids with new looking pairs of heelys olling around quite
abit. These shoes are being worn by every demographic and every income range. I was getting my hair cut and there were at most 8 people in the building and one of them was a kid wearing a pair of new heelys. I was walking out of Bed Bath abd Beyond and a mom was pulling her 2 sons on their heelys. One of my fried said she went to the mall and counted 20 kids with heelys wheeling around. I have seen more heelys on kids than crox lately...I would hold until the next quarter, but if heelys bring more comments about a reg. shoe line this may have more staying power. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: acea...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:34:49 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Earnings
Think also about the international markets. Kids are wearing them in
South America and Europe (I've seen them myself on two recent trips!) - I assume Asia as well. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jefferey Fennell" <jeffere...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:12:50 -0000
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
Do everyone on the board a favor and do not post false statements
about a JP Morgan upgrade...obviously from the current news reports and the action that occurred today that was not the case. I suggest no one listens to ak1...unless he can provide a link to a reputable source and I am sure he cannot. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: lsbmont...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:10:43 -0800
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
It's not a false statement here is the article from Bloomberg....
March 7 (Bloomberg) -- Shares of Heelys Inc., the wheeled- sneaker Shares fell $3.47 to $32.17 as of 3:59 p.m. New York time in Nasdaq The decline came the day after the Carrollton, Texas-based company ``I think people are a little disappointed that the company didn't ``It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that clearly the trends Heelys, whose target audience is described by Samuel as youngsters age You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "therealintellectual" <y.ada...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:29:21 -0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 8 2007 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Earnings
Here is the link that everybody may want to look. He did not post a
false statement. The JPMorgan analyst says the downward turn is ridiculous. Here is the link. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=H... You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: acea...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:46:35 -0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 8 2007 10:46 am
Subject: Re: Earnings
Thanks sellers, you've cheapened the stock for me and now I'm going to
buy some more. From the Bloomberg article: ``It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that clearly the trends are much better than'' Heelys' stated goals, said Samuels, who has an ``outperform'' rating on the shares. On another topic, somebody mentioned this is a fad stock ... so - AAPL (the ipod) up 550% in 3 years What I'm saying is the following: maybe HLYS will follow the path of You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jefferey Fennell" <jeffere...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:39:32 -0000
Local: Mon, Mar 12 2007 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
I have still not seen anything come out that he reiterated his
outperform on Heely's. Yes this guy made comments, but I have not seen anything that states he has reiterated his outperform. That would be key. And trust me I would love for him to make a reiteration on his outperform and maybe someone to come out and say it is a buy from a nuetral here, but that has not happenned. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: MikeHir...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:45:49 -0700
Local: Mon, Mar 12 2007 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Earnings
I read the earnings release and listened to the conference call and
still couldn't explain the puzzling 29% difference in the full year diluted earnings of $1.16 and the much higher non diluted number of $1.50 per share. So I called Investor Relations for an explanation and found out that the 29% difference was largely due to one time IPO expenses. And going forward the 7% difference in Q4 06 is a lot more representative than the 29% full year difference. So adjusting away the IPO expenses I figure the "real" earnings power Say you are expecting 30% sales growth for 2007 with unchanged I am currently long HLYS. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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