> why???

> Let us know when you find out.  Clearly there is a reason....too much
> volume to be nothing....

> On Oct 9, 8:41 am, shzx <shzx9...@163.com> wrote:

> > why???

> Somebody sold 200k at market price, and with normal volume + panic =
> selloff

> "Clearly there is a reason"

> Not necessarily, huge block sale + nervous people = selloff

> I've seen that many times.

> My guess though is that some MM dumped the shares to help other MM's
> cover their short positions. MR has a 15 short ratio meaning a lot of
> nervous people until the earnings. One MM dumps shares so others can
> cover in the panic.

> Also have seen that many times.

> On Oct 9, 2:11 pm, driftwood <gr.from...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Let us know when you find out.  Clearly there is a reason....too much
> > volume to be nothing....

> > On Oct 9, 8:41 am, shzx <shzx9...@163.com> wrote:

> > > why???- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally"

> MR -- plodding along for months and then todays sell off.. i can't
> find anything on the blogs/news services... but there is something
> going on -- i can promise everyone and its not just because its Friday
> and the stock has run up (but it really hasn't)..there is something of
> substantive news that is about to hit us --- probably a secondary
> offering or something like that.. So we all ask again -- what is going
> on -- its now after market close, so we will probably find out
> soon...what drives me crazy about these kind of things is that Reg D
> is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally --
> not just the investment bankers, etc... who have already run for the
> exits, leaving us retail investors to fend for ourselves.....

> On Oct 9, 2:15 pm, j_ripper19 <mtgt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Somebody sold 200k at market price, and with normal volume + panic =
> > selloff

> > "Clearly there is a reason"

> > Not necessarily, huge block sale + nervous people = selloff

> > I've seen that many times.

> > My guess though is that some MM dumped the shares to help other MM's
> > cover their short positions. MR has a 15 short ratio meaning a lot of
> > nervous people until the earnings. One MM dumps shares so others can
> > cover in the panic.

> > Also have seen that many times.

> > On Oct 9, 2:11 pm, driftwood <gr.from...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Let us know when you find out.  Clearly there is a reason....too much
> > > volume to be nothing....

> > > On Oct 9, 8:41 am, shzx <shzx9...@163.com> wrote:

> > > > why???- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> "Reg D

> > is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> > possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally"

> But out of the meetings where the issue is discussed internally
> (whatever the issue may be), prior to that official announcement which
> will be made uniformly to all investors, someone runs out and acts
> with inside information.  I agree with most here, that it is
> 'something', not merely Friday + block sale + nerves.  Of course I
> could be wrong and would be happy to be wrong this time.  I bet that
> within a week they announce something: pending trade policy which
> threatens sales/2ndary offering/convertible bond offering/earnings
> disappointment/class action lawsuit...something....it will be
> something.

> On Oct 9, 1:34 pm, jason sumner    <jason.sumne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > MR -- plodding along for months and then todays sell off.. i can't
> > find anything on the blogs/news services... but there is something
> > going on -- i can promise everyone and its not just because its Friday
> > and the stock has run up (but it really hasn't)..there is something of
> > substantive news that is about to hit us --- probably a secondary
> > offering or something like that.. So we all ask again -- what is going
> > on -- its now after market close, so we will probably find out
> > soon...what drives me crazy about these kind of things is that Reg D
> > is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> > possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally --
> > not just the investment bankers, etc... who have already run for the
> > exits, leaving us retail investors to fend for ourselves.....

> > On Oct 9, 2:15 pm, j_ripper19 <mtgt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Somebody sold 200k at market price, and with normal volume + panic =
> > > selloff

> > > "Clearly there is a reason"

> > > Not necessarily, huge block sale + nervous people = selloff

> > > I've seen that many times.

> > > My guess though is that some MM dumped the shares to help other MM's
> > > cover their short positions. MR has a 15 short ratio meaning a lot of
> > > nervous people until the earnings. One MM dumps shares so others can
> > > cover in the panic.

> > > Also have seen that many times.

> > > On Oct 9, 2:11 pm, driftwood <gr.from...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Let us know when you find out.  Clearly there is a reason....too much
> > > > volume to be nothing....

> > > > On Oct 9, 8:41 am, shzx <shzx9...@163.com> wrote:

> > > > > why???- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> totally agree... It seems that many of the chinese companies have a
> bad history of the information being dribbled out and then the
> announcement a week later... i quess it all ends up with a sell off in
> the end -- so what is the difference between a 5% haircut on day one
> or slowly over 5 days ?? nothing... except, the proper way to do this
> is to make the announcement in after hours trading -- and then let the
> investors do what they want with that information... the chinese
> companies are getting better at this ,, but are not all the way there
> yet...

> On Oct 9, 10:38 pm, driftwood <gr.from...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > "Reg D

> > > is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> > > possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally"

> > But out of the meetings where the issue is discussed internally
> > (whatever the issue may be), prior to that official announcement which
> > will be made uniformly to all investors, someone runs out and acts
> > with inside information.  I agree with most here, that it is
> > 'something', not merely Friday + block sale + nerves.  Of course I
> > could be wrong and would be happy to be wrong this time.  I bet that
> > within a week they announce something: pending trade policy which
> > threatens sales/2ndary offering/convertible bond offering/earnings
> > disappointment/class action lawsuit...something....it will be
> > something.

> > On Oct 9, 1:34 pm, jason sumner    <jason.sumne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > MR -- plodding along for months and then todays sell off.. i can't
> > > find anything on the blogs/news services... but there is something
> > > going on -- i can promise everyone and its not just because its Friday
> > > and the stock has run up (but it really hasn't)..there is something of
> > > substantive news that is about to hit us --- probably a secondary
> > > offering or something like that.. So we all ask again -- what is going
> > > on -- its now after market close, so we will probably find out
> > > soon...what drives me crazy about these kind of things is that Reg D
> > > is suppose to require that any substantive information that is
> > > possessed by  the company is to be broadcast to everyone equally --
> > > not just the investment bankers, etc... who have already run for the
> > > exits, leaving us retail investors to fend for ourselves.....

> > > On Oct 9, 2:15 pm, j_ripper19 <mtgt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Somebody sold 200k at market price, and with normal volume + panic =
> > > > selloff

> > > > "Clearly there is a reason"

> > > > Not necessarily, huge block sale + nervous people = selloff

> > > > I've seen that many times.

> > > > My guess though is that some MM dumped the shares to help other MM's
> > > > cover their short positions. MR has a 15 short ratio meaning a lot of
> > > > nervous people until the earnings. One MM dumps shares so others can
> > > > cover in the panic.

> > > > Also have seen that many times.

> > > > On Oct 9, 2:11 pm, driftwood <gr.from...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Let us know when you find out.  Clearly there is a reason....too much
> > > > > volume to be nothing....

> > > > > On Oct 9, 8:41 am, shzx <shzx9...@163.com> wrote:

> > > > > > why???- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> You are already assuming that there are news. This drop might have
> many reasons but hardly call a 6-7% drop very steep. With $1 million
> it's fairly easy to move this stock and with the huge amount of shorts
> it seems some MM is trying to borrow shares. MR has always been very
> forthcoming about news and they are certainly not "another chinese
> company". Average chinese company trades at a PE of 7 while MR sits at
> a PE of 25-30. That's investor's confidence right there.

> Techically, this stock isn't looking so good.  It had tried on
> Thursday to challenge its Aug-Sept resistance but failed, and closed
> well below its opening.  The doji candle for that day is also a
> bearish-engulfing signal.   With regards to support, it is now lying
> right on its it.  MACD indicates slowed/reversal of momentum.  The
> price of the stock is also outside the Bollinger bands by a large
> margin.

> Personally, I would take some profits off the table and wait or short
> this stock.

> On Oct 11, 1:10 pm, j_ripper19 <mtgt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > You are already assuming that there are news. This drop might have
> > many reasons but hardly call a 6-7% drop very steep. With $1 million
> > it's fairly easy to move this stock and with the huge amount of shorts
> > it seems some MM is trying to borrow shares. MR has always been very
> > forthcoming about news and they are certainly not "another chinese
> > company". Average chinese company trades at a PE of 7 while MR sits at
> > a PE of 25-30. That's investor's confidence right there.

> Techically, this stock isn't looking so good.  It had tried on
> Thursday to challenge its Aug-Sept resistance but failed, and closed
> well below its opening.  The doji candle for that day is also a
> bearish-engulfing signal.   With regards to support, it is now lying
> right on its it.  MACD indicates slowed/reversal of momentum.  The
> price of the stock is also outside the Bollinger bands by a large
> margin.

> Personally, I would take some profits off the table and wait or short
> this stock.

> On Oct 11, 1:10 pm, j_ripper19 <mtgt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > You are already assuming that there are news. This drop might have
> > many reasons but hardly call a 6-7% drop very steep. With $1 million
> > it's fairly easy to move this stock and with the huge amount of shorts
> > it seems some MM is trying to borrow shares. MR has always been very
> > forthcoming about news and they are certainly not "another chinese
> > company". Average chinese company trades at a PE of 7 while MR sits at
> > a PE of 25-30. That's investor's confidence right there.