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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
CARRIER, I just checked out PLLL, that's down 6% today! every stock
you recommended is down. I'm beginning to wonder about you.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Muzz

First off if you have only $100 to invest you are already down at
least 10% after trading comissions.  20% if you could the commission
for selling the stock.

Also, if you are a new investor and only have $200 you should NOT be
investing in penny stocks like CVM.  OCNF IS a good buy for the long
term but you should just go buy 5 shares of coca cola or something.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Muzz, you're doing okay. Don't panic.  First thing- don't base
everything on others' advice. If they do recommend a stock, sure- look
at it, but do your own research. Don't follow blindly.  If you do, you
might as well just watch Cramer and be one of his sheep.

Second, never sell at a loss (unless MAYBE if you think it's heading
to bankruptcy). The price will come back up. It may be sooner or
later, but it will come back up. Patience.  If anything, buy MORE
stock if it's down.

OCNF will go up. $2 in the short term, a lot higher with time.


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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:36:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
First off Muzz...EVERYTHING is down today...have you been watching the
news?

And as for what is listed under the Google Finance Dividend...they are
right...the last dividend was .77, however they suspended it. If you
look at the chart...you would have seen OCNF was overdue for a
dividend payment (Every 3 months) and that should have raised some
questions.

You really need to expand your DD to different websites and then try
to draw your own conclusions.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
How can I buy more stock when I'm all tapped out. I got raked over the
coals when I bought 100 shares of ONCF $2.04.  In hindsight I guess
it's a good thing I sold it at $1.60, it's at about $1.35 right now.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
This is got to be the funnest / interesting discussion i've ever
read!  This is better than SNL.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:28 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
muzz - also look at NTWK and COIN and VRNM. Moving against the market
so that's a good sign.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Beautiful, I'm down %50 and you think it's funny. How am I going to
recover when everything is going down, but I'm in so deep now I can't
get out.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Oh sure your down $85,000 and I'm supposed to take you advice, what
kind of fool do you think I am?

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
I was speaking in generalities.  In general, if you have a good stock
and it's going down- buy more at the cheaper price, don't bail out.

If you bought at 2, you shouldn't have sold for anything less. You
paniced, you lost.  If you can't wait to turn a profit, then this
isn't the game for you.

I went into this prepared to lose every penny I invested. Based on
your comments, I don't think you were. Just pretend it's a trip to the
casino. You might win, but be prepared to lose.

I, unlike a few others, am just trying to help.   I bought at 1.52 and
it's 1.33 now. You don't see my soiling my pants because I'm almost
positive it'll hit $2 within the month. That's my gamble.

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From: muzz...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Thanks for your thoughtfulness but my attitude is to make money not to
to lose money and pretend it's a trip to the casino
boy you've got to be more positive.
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From: jwessel...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:28:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Muzz,

I think you should have taken that $100, bought a used mower and
started mowing yards on the wknds and evenings.  You would have made
some cash (probably tax free), gotten some exercise, and ended up with
a tangible asset that's probably worth more that your portfolio is
now.  I'm also a newby but I do live in the real world.  Just my 2
cents

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
This also is a reason why if you are only investing $100's at a time,
trading options might make more sense.  If you are owning stocks
outright, you should have at least $1000 and around $5000 to $10,000
to be diversified.  Otherwise, commissions just eat up any profits you
might make.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Muzz...I suggest you start shorting stocks sice you are excellent at
buying high and selling low...at least this way you will make some
money.

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From: muzz...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:15:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
I should have diversified when I had the $211 I started with. Cramer
always says to diversify.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
I think I'll slow down on the trading pace for a while, especially
until OCNF stops all the dilution.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Tell me about it; the commissions are killing me.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
It really sounds to me that atleast 2.4% of all of us really knows
what they are doing with OCNF or basically any other stock.

This is a trader's market. POINT BLANK!!!

OCNF probably will hit 3 bucks or maybe higher. but it will not do it
in a straight line, not to many stocks do that.

So what you do is either buy this sucker at whatever price and
hold,
OR
like the 2.4% of us buy low(1.05) sell high(1.95) then just wait for
the other 97.6% to panic and drive it back down to a comfortable level
and repeat the process again!(with the occasionally scalping until
then)

Sounds easy? it is.

ESPECIALLY when we have so many unpatience and naive "investers"
helping me to make Posche Cayenne money!

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
Well Muzz, you started this project all wrong...

What's your goal? Long term? Short Term? Day trade?

You chose an investment...and sold as soon as it started going
down...If your long term, why would you do that? Especially with such
a small amount of money.

If you can't handle the volatility, then this is the wrong time to be
investing! Also you should stay away from trading on the Nasdaq,
that's the most volatile of all the exchanges. Pick a stock that's
trades on the NYSE. Also you may want to chose something that's over
$5/share.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:31:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
are you serious?  "slow down the trading pace?"  You have $200 that
you invested.  Thats 10 trades MAX.  Thats a pretty fast pace you have
there...

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From: muzz...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
It seems like I'm doing just the opposite.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:37:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
we all take loses, use this as a learning experience.

me personally, if my starting capital was only 200, I would wait till
GM goes bankrupt, buy at 0.01 and just hold till it popped.
risky but i your case better than losing with companies that are more
unpredictable.

but dont give up, cuz this is the time where opportunities like this
happens once in a life time.

some of us have been trading for a few years or more, and man we are
going to take advantage of this market and maximize and squeeze each
dollar we can while its in this state.

ITS TIME TO GO STOCK SHOPPING BABY!!!  smbrst will soon be lrgbrst :)

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:43:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
That advice is  very difficult to understand.

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
It wasn't that small when I started, $214 is nothing to sneeze at. I
hear all the time people start with less than that and are living like
kings. I might still have a chance if CVM comes through like CARRIER
predicts it will, then I'll be on "easy street".

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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Dilutions? You want to talk about dilutions!
if it makes you feel better

i lost about 900 playing with ahr this morning. stupid me for buying
3000@ 0.93 in pre-market just to see it drop and get out at 0.82 .
but it could have been worst cuz it closesd at .64.
just the life of a day trader. you win some, you lose some.

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