> The key day is Thursday with GDP and the unemployment number.

> My gut is telling me both will disappoint. What do you guys think?

> F'ers F'ed it all up... now all treads will be burried in the sea of
> spam... F them... time to move on anyway.

> > Anyway, let's talk strategy guys.

> > The key day is Thursday with GDP and the unemployment number.

> > My gut is telling me both will disappoint. What do you guys think?

> i don't know and don't pay attention nor do i ever take a position
> based on upcomming event trying to guess the result of the event and
> then markets reaction to results... i am just not smart like that...

> > Monday I am expecting a down day, and Tuesday I may go shopping.

> maybe not a bad gig... but shopping for what?

> > with the bad number coming out Thursday this is a tricky week. It may
> > just be best to stay in cash not do anything...

> can't loose by staing in cash or risking only small % of it... this
> $hit is sooo f'ed up its sick...

> i will be posting less.... much less... kind of tired of it and market
> is in the wave od intra day reversals so got to pay attention and take
> advantage of those... trading spy puts is xmas again...

> gl

> At this moment I am not sure what to buy. It will depend on tomorrow.
> The thing is, I am becoming convinced that Thursday may be a negative
> day. Great Britain's GDP number spooked me last week, and I think
> spooked others too.

> The one company I like here is GILD. If I could get it for 41, I would
> jump at that. I think it has a nice potential for an upside potential
> to 46 or even 48. It is also a safe stock to hold if you end up losing
> on your trade. STP at 12 also looks attractive, and MTL around 17.
> But I have no set target now. And that makes me hesitate even more.

> I am avoiding the financials here. It looks like they are under some
> alligator grip, and being pulled under.

> So we have to see what happens at S&P 1041, and then at 1014. I would
> expect a breakdown here below 1041, and then a retesting of the 1014
> level. That 1041 is a feisty level though. It will be a battle to take
> it below that. But at this stage, I do not see any good news coming
> that will save the market. And my sense is the politicians are messing
> around too much with Wall Street the past 2 weeks, and it will cost
> them.

> Dick Bove came out with some very bad news on BAC. BAC is a sell here.
> He said that BAC has to raise 45 Billion, and he warned of share
> dilution.  It is kind of funny, because like 3 weeks ago he had raised
> BAC to a price target of 24, and  if you figure that they now have to
> raise 45 billion, a more correct numer would be  around  12. How come
> he did not know 3 weeks ago that they needed 45 billion? Is he talking
> the market down to buy cheap, or was he just misinformed 3 weeks ago?
> How can you be misinformed about 45 billion?

> Anyway, that is the kind of stuff coming out in the news, and it bodes
> I think very badly for the market in general.

> Xoomaximus might have been that one spike above 1100.

> On Oct 26, 5:07 pm, xoo <xoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hey what happened to Google discussion boards? Did they change things?

> > F'ers F'ed it all up... now all treads will be burried in the sea of
> > spam... F them... time to move on anyway.

> > > Anyway, let's talk strategy guys.

> > > The key day is Thursday with GDP and the unemployment number.

> > > My gut is telling me both will disappoint. What do you guys think?

> > i don't know and don't pay attention nor do i ever take a position
> > based on upcomming event trying to guess the result of the event and
> > then markets reaction to results... i am just not smart like that...

> > > Monday I am expecting a down day, and Tuesday I may go shopping.

> > maybe not a bad gig... but shopping for what?

> > > with the bad number coming out Thursday this is a tricky week. It may
> > > just be best to stay in cash not do anything...

> > can't loose by staing in cash or risking only small % of it... this
> > $hit is sooo f'ed up its sick...

> > i will be posting less.... much less... kind of tired of it and market
> > is in the wave od intra day reversals so got to pay attention and take
> > advantage of those... trading spy puts is xmas again...

> > gl

> xoomaximus is a tricky biatch so don't u discount it fast.... that is
> second time u said that btw... i also have target that u pointed out
> sometime ago.... BUT this is no time to invest.

> f'ing funny...

> > could you let me know if
> > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > started?

> i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> and lost and lost....
> then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > prognostication)?

> what is going on on weds pm?
> honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> composure still intact... will see...

> > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > sector?

> i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> prisoners.

> if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> makes sense?

> f'ing funny...

> > could you let me know if
> > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > started?

> i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> and lost and lost....
> then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > prognostication)?

> what is going on on weds pm?
> honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> composure still intact... will see...

> > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > sector?

> i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> prisoners.

> if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> makes sense?

> f'ing funny...

> > could you let me know if
> > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > started?

> i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> and lost and lost....
> then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > prognostication)?

> what is going on on weds pm?
> honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> composure still intact... will see...

> > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > sector?

> i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> prisoners.

> if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> makes sense?

> f'ing funny...

> > could you let me know if
> > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > started?

> i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> and lost and lost....
> then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > prognostication)?

> what is going on on weds pm?
> honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> composure still intact... will see...

> > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > sector?

> i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> prisoners.

> if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> makes sense?

> On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, xoo <xoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Before you go into "self-imposed hiding"

> > f'ing funny...

> > > could you let me know if
> > > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > > started?

> > i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> > and lost and lost....
> > then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> > more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> > into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> > advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> > now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> > they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> > practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> > are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> > time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> > andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> > bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> > view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> > patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > > prognostication)?

> > what is going on on weds pm?
> > honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> > b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> > morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> > the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> > a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> > makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> > some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> > dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> > it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> > huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> > around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> > story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> > minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> > up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> > judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> > consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> > 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> > them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> > ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> > composure still intact... will see...

> > > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> > trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> > occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > > sector?

> > i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> > betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> > days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> > here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> > yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> > roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> > not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> > general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> > stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> > well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> > direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> > oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> > solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> > hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> > nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> > get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> > prisoners.

> > if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> > just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> > mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> > night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> > the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> > bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> > makes sense?

> I have called Xoomaximus several times. I thought it double peaked at
> 1080, and then it jumped through 1100.

> It is possible that the S&P can make a run at 1150 now. GE is under
> 15, and BAC is closing in on 16. Both stocks could see a big momentum
> shift and go on a short bull run. Since they are such big catalysts
> for the market, it could lift everyone up.

> However, I can also envision a long sideways correction coming, in
> which there is a tight trading range. Something that happened between
> May  and July. I am increasingly falling into this camp. If this tight
> trading range develops, I think it is better to be invested than not,
> but it will be extremely slim pickings. A few stocks will go on a
> tear, and you will always be feeling like you missed the next big
> thing. Maybe CIT is the last big thing out there? It is still in the
> dollar range???

> I am not confident about the BAC trade here. I have had a great
> relationship with that stock, and the housing numbers (Schiller) was
> impressive today.. really impressive... But I do pay very close
> attention to Dick Bove, and he has been in a downer mood lately, and
> I really would not want to go again his advice on banks. Of course, if
> BAC names a dynamic new CEO, that may lift the value of the stock a
> lot. There would be a spike on the good news. Interesting...

> Good luck guys tomorrow..

> On Oct 27, 10:35 pm, Panchofabricio <panchofabri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Thats f'ed up.  Googles being extremely selective about what I could
> > post.  I guess anyone that replies to your threads is blacklisted now
> > too....   (hehe)

> > On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, xoo <xoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Before you go into "self-imposed hiding"

> > > f'ing funny...

> > > > could you let me know if
> > > > there is anything specific you read on charting when you were getting
> > > > started?

> > > i have read so much $hit it is sick... i have tried and tried and lost
> > > and lost and lost....
> > > then i read "Elliott Wave Principle" by Robert Prechter and lost some
> > > more but this time enjoyed loosing (f'ing weird i know) so i looked
> > > into EWI, signed up for the service and analysis and following their
> > > advice lost a f'ing boatload but still felt that something is there...
> > > now after staring at f'ing charts everyday for what seems like ever
> > > they started to f'ing talk to me.... weird i know... so i guess
> > > practice and losses r best teachers... anyway back to your Q.... there
> > > are only two books that i would recommend to my own children (in due
> > > time i will make them f'ing study this $hit):http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=cg
> > > andhttp://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/default.aspx?code=cg

> > > bottom line imo experience market is bunch of F'ing noise and only
> > > view good trade-able set ups.. that's the reason for the cliche on
> > > patience... so don't try to make something if nothing is there...

> > > > Also, (although I'm guessing you've traded out of it by now) whats
> > > > your take on ENER at this point, and what direction were headed after
> > > > weds pm (sorry, I know you're not in the business of
> > > > prognostication)?

> > > what is going on on weds pm?
> > > honestly i have no f'ing clue... i did traded out of it on that spike
> > > b/c my concern w/ ener was always lack of follow thru then next
> > > morning this biatch did this turnover number and i thru fibs on it for
> > > the kicks and saw it bounce of 61.8 so opened up long calls again....
> > > a little after 3 on friday i am seeing huge vol comes in and ener
> > > makes no moves so i jump to dump my calls and right in front of me
> > > some prick buys/sell huge lots (huge relative to oi) so instead of
> > > dumping my nov12 i bought more nov15... idiot... i can't even explain
> > > it... it was this reflex thingy... only after market close did i see
> > > huge vol on put side nov 15 also so some F head initiate large spread
> > > around 15 and i just happened to be in front of this moron.... long
> > > story short i am stuck w/ almost 50% loss on that shizer nov15 and
> > > minor loss on nov12... i am not dumping yet bc i didn't really chopped
> > > up the move yet... when i am emotionally involved it effects my
> > > judgement so i am not looking at it per say... want to see what to
> > > consider main move and what is retracement first... besides if i lose
> > > 100% i already covered that trading spy put this week... so for now F
> > > them... no help i know... but there is really nothing to say about
> > > ener for now... 12.4 didn't hold and that's worrisome but bullish
> > > composure still intact... will see...

> > > > it looks like its moving on past recent trend lines

> > > trading triangle is tricky and back tests are rather frequent
> > > occurrence...  must wait it out a bit...

> > > > not going to disappoint this time (I sure hope not).  Anyway, whats
> > > > your thoughts on what'll happen with FSLR, and what effect that'll
> > > > have on ENER (spec those nov 12 calls) if anything other than the
> > > > general trend/direction effect it'll have on probably the whole
> > > > sector?

> > > i haven't looked at flsr chart in a while just at price and i am
> > > betting there is a huge a$$ triangle forming.... nothing is easy those
> > > days... what is good for fslr is good for ener i suppose...

> > > here is contrarian indicator for you.... xoo bought spy calls today...
> > > yep, me w/ my bearish view said F it.... i want to run with da pigs...
> > > roll in dirt a little u know.... maybe eat some $hit if i have to.....
> > > not like there is anything wrong w/ that... so i feel market in
> > > general should step up and i will see how it will walk, run or
> > > stumble... now if market were to move up then solar sector should as
> > > well... i mean why not (although ener seems to disagree w/ SnP on
> > > direction)... problem is in longer terms (which i don't trade) is $,
> > > oil and market can turn at the same time and none of three is good for
> > > solar... turn in $/eur for solar could be kiss of death...i think tsl
> > > hedges currency trades the rest i am not sure....

> > > nobody should be buying anything for long term holds imo.... trade or
> > > get da F out of the way... bc when this biatch turns it will take no
> > > prisoners.

> > > if something clears up for me i will post it BUT remember that its
> > > just f'ing xoo not dick bove and this is only goog board not gs thus
> > > mistakes are frequent... trouble w/ mistakes is that i can't sleep at
> > > night if move doesn't go my way... not b/c my loss but i can't stand
> > > the idea of some poor soul acting based on bs from forum and holding a
> > > bag while i will be on the other side of a trade already... does that
> > > makes sense?