> what's so good looking about it?

> the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> leaks a penny or two every day
> where it stops, nobody knows

> I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> though.

> On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > what's so good looking about it?

> > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > leaks a penny or two every day
> > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > though.

> > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Maybe you should have researched a little better before spending your
> money.    If you followed my posts on this board, you would know that
> I have been berated here for being very critical of GU.

> I have followed it since the IPO, and found that when this stock looks
> completely down and out, you will find the best buying
> opportunities.   When things look rosy and the stock has been trending
> up, jump ship before it comes crashing down again.

> On Oct 7, 7:07 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> > found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> > not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> > thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> > the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> > I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> > On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > > though.

> > > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

> Thanks  mmcc~ I will try and file that in my memory bank.  It looks
> like I might have got in on a slight upward trend.  I will have to
> hang on and hope that it hits the "down and out" status so that it can
> go up.  When was its IPO?  Do you think there is a realistic future
> for the product that GU sells?  ~T-bone.

> On Oct 8, 6:07 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Maybe you should have researched a little better before spending your
> > money.    If you followed my posts on this board, you would know that
> > I have been berated here for being very critical of GU.

> > I have followed it since the IPO, and found that when this stock looks
> > completely down and out, you will find the best buying
> > opportunities.   When things look rosy and the stock has been trending
> > up, jump ship before it comes crashing down again.

> > On Oct 7, 7:07 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> > > found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> > > not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> > > thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> > > the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> > > I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> > > On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > > > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > > > though.

> > > > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> IPO was in Dec 2007.  I think GU has a good future, but it is
> definitely a speculative play.  There is not much support above 1.30
> anymore. If there is not good news by the conference call next month,
> this could get ugly.  Investors are very tired of the lack of
> communication from GU leadership.  They have a good balance sheet, but
> with two plants idled, I can't imagine they are making a profit. So
> who cares how much cash they have on hand, it just delays the
> inevitable unless an agreement is reached with the local govt.

> I view this a lot like a small pharmaceutical company with ongoing
> drug trials...  Risky, but the payoff could be huge.

> On Oct 8, 12:44 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Thanks  mmcc~ I will try and file that in my memory bank.  It looks
> > like I might have got in on a slight upward trend.  I will have to
> > hang on and hope that it hits the "down and out" status so that it can
> > go up.  When was its IPO?  Do you think there is a realistic future
> > for the product that GU sells?  ~T-bone.

> > On Oct 8, 6:07 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Maybe you should have researched a little better before spending your
> > > money.    If you followed my posts on this board, you would know that
> > > I have been berated here for being very critical of GU.

> > > I have followed it since the IPO, and found that when this stock looks
> > > completely down and out, you will find the best buying
> > > opportunities.   When things look rosy and the stock has been trending
> > > up, jump ship before it comes crashing down again.

> > > On Oct 7, 7:07 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> > > > found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> > > > not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> > > > thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> > > > the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> > > > I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> > > > On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > > > > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > > > > though.

> > > > > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > > > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > > > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > > > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> this is nothing like a small pharma company with ongoing drug trials.
> this is the largest producer of biodiesel in china.  they were
> profitable every quarter of their existence until oil crashed for a
> few quarters.  the plant shutdowns are related to a consumption tax
> that will inevitably not apply to them.  if oil prices stay down
> (which they won't), they can switch over to manufacturing chemicals.
> they have no debt and 1.40 per share in cash.  are the factories
> capable of producing 500,000 tons of biodiesel annually really
> worthless?  a quick look at other chinese biodiesel stocks suggests
> that this is not the case.  look at the cash they produced in the past
> few years, and for all the problems they are facing now they are still
> cash flow positive.  at 10 bucks, this is a speculative play.  at less
> than 2 bucks, this is a pretty safe bet, imo

> On Oct 13, 7:32 pm, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > IPO was in Dec 2007.  I think GU has a good future, but it is
> > definitely a speculative play.  There is not much support above 1.30
> > anymore. If there is not good news by the conference call next month,
> > this could get ugly.  Investors are very tired of the lack of
> > communication from GU leadership.  They have a good balance sheet, but
> > with two plants idled, I can't imagine they are making a profit. So
> > who cares how much cash they have on hand, it just delays the
> > inevitable unless an agreement is reached with the local govt.

> > I view this a lot like a small pharmaceutical company with ongoing
> > drug trials...  Risky, but the payoff could be huge.

> > On Oct 8, 12:44 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Thanks  mmcc~ I will try and file that in my memory bank.  It looks
> > > like I might have got in on a slight upward trend.  I will have to
> > > hang on and hope that it hits the "down and out" status so that it can
> > > go up.  When was its IPO?  Do you think there is a realistic future
> > > for the product that GU sells?  ~T-bone.

> > > On Oct 8, 6:07 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Maybe you should have researched a little better before spending your
> > > > money.    If you followed my posts on this board, you would know that
> > > > I have been berated here for being very critical of GU.

> > > > I have followed it since the IPO, and found that when this stock looks
> > > > completely down and out, you will find the best buying
> > > > opportunities.   When things look rosy and the stock has been trending
> > > > up, jump ship before it comes crashing down again.

> > > > On Oct 7, 7:07 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> > > > > found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> > > > > not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> > > > > thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> > > > > the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> > > > > I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> > > > > On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > > > > > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > > > > > though.

> > > > > > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > > > > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > > > > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > > > > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> so why is everyone avoiding this stock like the plague no matter how
> much the markets are rallying? It boggles the mind at this point

> On Oct 14, 5:24 pm, Will <willthro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > this is nothing like a small pharma company with ongoing drug trials.
> > this is the largest producer of biodiesel in china.  they were
> > profitable every quarter of their existence until oil crashed for a
> > few quarters.  the plant shutdowns are related to a consumption tax
> > that will inevitably not apply to them.  if oil prices stay down
> > (which they won't), they can switch over to manufacturing chemicals.
> > they have no debt and 1.40 per share in cash.  are the factories
> > capable of producing 500,000 tons of biodiesel annually really
> > worthless?  a quick look at other chinese biodiesel stocks suggests
> > that this is not the case.  look at the cash they produced in the past
> > few years, and for all the problems they are facing now they are still
> > cash flow positive.  at 10 bucks, this is a speculative play.  at less
> > than 2 bucks, this is a pretty safe bet, imo

> > On Oct 13, 7:32 pm, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > IPO was in Dec 2007.  I think GU has a good future, but it is
> > > definitely a speculative play.  There is not much support above 1.30
> > > anymore. If there is not good news by the conference call next month,
> > > this could get ugly.  Investors are very tired of the lack of
> > > communication from GU leadership.  They have a good balance sheet, but
> > > with two plants idled, I can't imagine they are making a profit. So
> > > who cares how much cash they have on hand, it just delays the
> > > inevitable unless an agreement is reached with the local govt.

> > > I view this a lot like a small pharmaceutical company with ongoing
> > > drug trials...  Risky, but the payoff could be huge.

> > > On Oct 8, 12:44 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Thanks  mmcc~ I will try and file that in my memory bank.  It looks
> > > > like I might have got in on a slight upward trend.  I will have to
> > > > hang on and hope that it hits the "down and out" status so that it can
> > > > go up.  When was its IPO?  Do you think there is a realistic future
> > > > for the product that GU sells?  ~T-bone.

> > > > On Oct 8, 6:07 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Maybe you should have researched a little better before spending your
> > > > > money.    If you followed my posts on this board, you would know that
> > > > > I have been berated here for being very critical of GU.

> > > > > I have followed it since the IPO, and found that when this stock looks
> > > > > completely down and out, you will find the best buying
> > > > > opportunities.   When things look rosy and the stock has been trending
> > > > > up, jump ship before it comes crashing down again.

> > > > > On Oct 7, 7:07 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Before it doubles?  Yeah right!  I bought quite a few shares and later
> > > > > > found out that GU has shut down a few of its production plants.  So
> > > > > > not to be sarcastic, but I was wondering if it was merely wishful
> > > > > > thinking or if you had something in the way of good news about GU that
> > > > > > the media certainly hasn't let out yet?  I truly hope it is good new.
> > > > > > I just don't see it doubling like you seem to suggest.  ~ T-bone.

> > > > > > On Oct 7, 5:27 am, mmccord <mmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > I've followed this stock for a long time.   It generally looks the
> > > > > > > worst right before it doubles.   I don't think we're there quite yet
> > > > > > > though.

> > > > > > > On Oct 7, 7:50 am, yonil <silvatar_fl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > what's so good looking about it?

> > > > > > > > the chart reeks of slow and agonizing death
> > > > > > > > leaks a penny or two every day
> > > > > > > > where it stops, nobody knows- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

> I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> reliable.

> So I am not so sore.

> so what is the diagnosis what do you guys think.

> On Oct 15, 1:34 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> > reliable.

> > So I am not so sore.- Hide quoted text -

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> Its kind of difficult to give much of an opinion when there is
> virtually no news lately - good or bad............   plus you said
> your source is not reliable.  Nuff said for now.

> On Oct 15, 5:51 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > so what is the diagnosis what do you guys think.

> > On Oct 15, 1:34 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> > > reliable.

> > > So I am not so sore.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> all right, i have few shares of this stock, and looks like we can
> expect nice payoff next week, everything is pointing that way.....
> 2.5..here it  comes..i m not so sure about doubling like someone
> mentioned  above, at least not into the next week....if oil starts to
> go up even higher, it already has.....doubling would be more
> realistic....but for now..i say hold on to your shares and wait about
> a week...

> On Oct 15, 12:47 pm, t-bone <terry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Its kind of difficult to give much of an opinion when there is
> > virtually no news lately - good or bad............   plus you said
> > your source is not reliable.  Nuff said for now.

> > On Oct 15, 5:51 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > so what is the diagnosis what do you guys think.

> > > On Oct 15, 1:34 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> > > > reliable.

> > > > So I am not so sore.- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> so what is the diagnosis what do you guys think.

> On Oct 15, 1:34 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> > reliable.

> > So I am not so sore.

> I'm liking it better in the 1.50 range.
> If it dropped below 1.50 I'd be a strong buy.

> It's always darkest before the dawn.

> On Oct 15, 8:51 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > so what is the diagnosis what do you guys think.

> > On Oct 15, 1:34 am, JASSONisALWAYSRIGHT <jasson...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > I heard from a source it will start today. But the source is not
> > > reliable.

> > > So I am not so sore.