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oilwildcat...@gmail.com  
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(3 users)  More options Sep 2 2008, 7:01 am
From: OilWildcat...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 7:01 am
Subject: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
For all practical purposes, the fund managers are forced to invest
this new 401k cash.

Isn't this a real bubble?  Forced savings being poured into funds
every payday?  And having the effect of proping up the market?

I really can't see the triggers that will break the 401k bubble. Bears
beware.


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sean.greatho...@gmail.com  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 2 2008, 9:24 am
From: Sean.Greatho...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:24:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:24 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
401k's, regardless of the market, are a solid long term investment.
This is investment 101.
People putting money into 401k's right now are simply getting more
shares for their money.

97% of any 5-year period on the market, it has been up
100% of any 10-year period on the market, it has been up

So smart people will always continue to invest long term on the market
and not panic like the short term sheep. ;)


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Matt  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 2 2008, 9:34 am
From: Matt <mattrya...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
Interesting relief rally this morning...nothing quite like a premature
celebration. I'm also glad that I bought some XLF/SPY calls before
close friday to balance out my predominantly short portfolio. It makes
this painful, temporary move up more palatable.

Should be an interesting first few hours today - today and especially
tomorrow should set the tone for the rest of the week. I tend to be a
bear, but with all the whipsaw rallies I tend to play it with less
conviction.


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joshlust@gmail.com  
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(3 users)  More options Sep 2 2008, 9:38 am
From: "joshl...@gmail.com" <joshl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:38 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
I don't think you can call 401k money a 'bubble' per se, because it is
not very liquid and people aren't going to panic and pull all of their
money out of their 401k anytime soon... anyone else?

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joshlust@gmail.com  
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(3 users)  More options Sep 2 2008, 9:41 am
From: "joshl...@gmail.com" <joshl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
Also,

I'm not entirely convinced this is a relief rally either - supposedly
'big money' is coming back this month, and if we have high volume
(looking that way), this might be the end of the bears...


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(1 user)  More options Sep 2 2008, 10:04 am
From: praxi...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:04 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c92d888a-7871-11dd-acc3-0000779fd18c.html

Individual ownership of US stocks has fallen to a record low,
highlighting the growing importance of institutional investors in
domestic equity markets, according to a report to be issued Tuesday.
Retail investors owned 34% of all shares and 24% of stock in the top
1,000 US companies at end-2006, said the Conference Board, an industry
group. Both numbers are record lows. By contrast, individual investors
owned 94% of all stocks in 1950 and 63% of all shares in 1980.
Institutions – defined as pension funds, investment companies,
insurers, banks and foundations – held 76% of the shares in the top
1,000 companies, up from 61% in 2000, the group said. Overall, mutual
funds have been the fastest-growing institutional investors,
accounting for 26% of assets, compared with only 2.3% in 1980.


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jharvey6  
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(1 user)  More options Sep 2 2008, 10:17 am
From: jharvey6 <harvey....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:17:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
I think it comes down to simply management. I used to work with an old
fellow, long gone. Who had a very diverse portfolio of stocks through
the 60s, 70s and 80s. He finally researched a lot of Mutual Funds and
decided to pick those that matches his personal investments style. He
stated: "That managing all of the positions, dividends, etc... took
too much time and effort". So he started moving positions to liked
minded funds. I think for the most part this is why people in general
have moved to rely on the funds, something the funds are certainly
willing to charge you for...:>

Lazy mans way to investing...Someone always willing to do it for a
price....?Right?


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(1 user)  More options Sep 2 2008, 10:20 am
From: reinhardt <servicec...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:20:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 2 2008 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Hard to imagine market dropping w 401k sheep money pouring in
"401k's, regardless of the market, are a solid long term investment.
This is investment 101."

Investment 102: This is a crock of sh-t

The 401K is the white-collar criminal's piggybank and nothing more.


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